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Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 11:54 AM
Here's how to keep your PC off the CLOUD, while installing W-8 or W-8-1.
Windows 8.1 Preview How to install without Microsoft account (skip Microsoft account) | Infobyte Blog (http://www.infobyte.hr/blog/337/windows-8-1-preview-how-to-install-without-microsoft-account-skip-microsoft-account/)

This one I just completed, now my PC is a Local Account free of the cloud... :yes:
How to Switch from a Microsoft Account to a Local Account in Windows 8 and 8.1 .... Local Account - Switch to in Windows 8 (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4842-local-account-switch-windows-8-a.html)

fvbounty
10-19-2013, 12:55 PM
Very nice Skully this should help a lot for people who do not want a Windows Live account!

JimTram
10-19-2013, 01:14 PM
Is the MS account separate from the password required to gain entry to the computer?

I can see some problems here!

Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 01:14 PM
Very nice Skully this should help a lot for people who do not want a Windows Live account!

Thanks... I hope it helps, and makes 8.1 more attractive to those who
want full control of their PC.

JimTram
10-19-2013, 01:19 PM
Interesting:

500,000 Americans' IDs, bank data stolen and sold on Internet, indictment says - Investigations (http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/18/21030000-500000-americans-ids-bank-data-stolen-and-sold-on-internet-indictment-says?lite)

GWillakers
10-19-2013, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the Heads up Skully. :tiphat:

Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 01:31 PM
Is the to gain entry to the computer separate from the password required to gain entry to the computer?

I can see some problems here!

A local account needs no password to log on to a PC, only if you want to use one. I just disconnect from my MS account, and closed out my MS account.
Using this method....
Local Account - Switch to in Windows 8 (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4842-local-account-switch-windows-8-a.html) and this... Microsoft Account - Close (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/23934-microsoft-account-close.html)

Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 01:32 PM
Thanks for the Heads up Skully. :tiphat:

Your welcome my friend... :wave:

JimTram
10-19-2013, 01:54 PM
Thanks Skully. If you use EFS like I do, a password to gain entry to the computer is a must. The encrypted file system uses the login password for the encryption scheme. Also, to keep Outlook encrypted, a password must be used. A lot of people use their login, as Outlook will then automatically use it.

So what I read is, the "traditional" login is available for use if desired. MS account is not mandatory.

Which leads me to, if you did use the MS account, is the account password, the password you use to login in to the computer?

All in all, MS is getting closer to the Apple scheme. I trust Apple, not MS, only because of the sheer numbers of users.


A local account needs no password to log on to a PC, only if you want to use one. I just disconnect from my MS account, and closed out my MS account.
Using this method....
Local Account - Switch to in Windows 8 (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4842-local-account-switch-windows-8-a.html) and this... Microsoft Account - Close (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/23934-microsoft-account-close.html)

Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 02:35 PM
Thanks Skully. If you use EFS like I do, a password to gain entry to the computer is a must. The encrypted file system uses the login password for the Which leads me to, if you did use the MS account, is the account password, the password you use to login in to the computer?scheme. Also, to keep Outlook encrypted, a password must be used. A lot of people use their login, as Outlook will then automatically use it.

So what I read is, the "traditional" login is available for use if desired. MS account is not mandatory.

Which leads me to, if you did use the MS account, is the account password, the password you use to login in to the computer?

All in all, MS is getting closer to the Apple scheme. I trust Apple, not MS, only because of the sheer numbers of users.

"Which leads me to, if you did use the MS account, is the account password, the password you use to login in to the computer?" Yes...
You may need to look into the password thing/encryption... You maybe
able to use a local password for encryption/Outlook. In other words If
you can do it now without MS and the cloud. I believe you can with W-8.1 also...

JimTram
10-19-2013, 03:13 PM
Thanks Skully. Hard questions, I'm sorry. However, your chemo brain needs a workout. :lol:

Win 8.1 Pro has EFS, so I suspect all is the same.

Thanks again. :beer:

Sir Skully
10-19-2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks Skully. Hard questions, I'm sorry. However, your chemo brain needs a workout. :lol:

Win 8.1 Pro has EFS, so I suspect all is the same.

Thanks again. :beer:
You're welcome...
Yea that gave me chemo brain a good workout... :yes:

Sandog
10-20-2013, 11:47 AM
Hey guys, which version of Windows 8.1 is the best to get?

I would like a hard copy and 64bit.

I'll be sure to follow Skully's guide to not installing the Cloud/Live part.

Not sure when I am getting it but maybe soon.

Thanks,

Griff
10-20-2013, 12:43 PM
Hey guys, which version of Windows 8.1 is the best to get?

I would like a hard copy and 64bit.

I'll be sure to follow Skully's guide to not installing the Cloud/Live part.

Not sure when I am getting it but maybe soon.

Thanks,


I have the Pro version, works great for me...:<:<:<

Sandog
10-20-2013, 01:19 PM
I have the Pro version, works great for me...:<:<:<

Is yours a retail version on DVD? That is what I will try to get. Looks like it costs $199.

Griff
10-20-2013, 09:36 PM
Is yours a retail version on DVD? That is what I will try to get. Looks like it costs $199.


Actually it is the upgrade from Win7 to Win8 Pro...:<:<:<

Why not buy the Win8 Pro upgrade from Win7 for about $100.00 then get the Win8.1 for free from Microsoft.

fvbounty
10-21-2013, 01:45 PM
Here you go Sandog...$139 for 8.1 pro 64 bit oem...

Windows 8.1 Pro Win 8.1 Pro WN7-00615 Microsoft 64-Bit Operating System OEM- Directron.com the Best Online Computer Store - Buy with Discount Prices from Houston Texas (http://www.directron.com/fqc06950.html?caoe=10212013)

Sir Skully
10-21-2013, 02:16 PM
Here you go Danog...$139 for 8.1 pro 64 bit oem...

Who's Danog... :D

XJ.
10-21-2013, 04:01 PM
Interesting - makes Win8.1 even more palatable. I'm still planning on holding out for Windows 9 (or whatever it will be called). Has anyone seen a Microsoft roadmap/timeline for future versions of windows?

Griff
10-21-2013, 05:30 PM
Yes that is a good price, might just order it myself...:<:<:<

fvbounty
10-21-2013, 05:33 PM
Who's Danog... :D

I don't know who he is, don't make fun of my spelling...LOL:blush:

Sir Skully
10-21-2013, 05:50 PM
I don't know who he is, don't make fun of my spelling...LOL:blush:

:lol:... :wave:

Sandog
10-21-2013, 06:21 PM
Thanks FVB, it is also available at NE for the same price. I would get it now but I can't. Got some other business to take care of first but this looks like what I want to get when I am ready.

Sandog
10-21-2013, 06:21 PM
I don't know who he is, don't make fun of my spelling...LOL:blush:

It's not the spelling that counts, its the quickness of posting. :)

fvbounty
10-21-2013, 06:31 PM
Sandog check out the new laptop I just ordered with a upgrade of the Samsung evo 250 gig ssd....

GWillakers
10-21-2013, 10:44 PM
It's not the spelling that counts, its the quickness of posting. :)

Actually both count. That why on 9 out of 10 of my posts one will see a little "last edited on mm/dd/yy HH:MM" at the bottom

Sir Skully
10-22-2013, 10:07 AM
Actually both count. That why on 9 out of 10 of my posts one will see a little "last edited on mm/dd/yy HH:MM" at the bottom

Chemo brain fog plays havoc with spellimg, or even remembering the
word ya want to spell.... :look:

fvbounty
11-20-2013, 10:04 AM
When I install W8.1 on this rig I don't want to enter a password to get to the desktop, is there a way to do that? My new Laptop I have to enter a pin or a password (I don't mind on my laptop) but on my this rig I don't want to have to. Thanks guys in advance.

Sir Skully
11-20-2013, 10:15 AM
Here's your answer bud...Autologon (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963905.aspx)
I don't use a log-on password...

fvbounty
11-20-2013, 10:19 AM
Here's your answer bud...
I don't use a log-on password...

This is the app you use? Thanks Skully, there's no way without using a app? All my W7 machines I just don't enter one on the install?

fvbounty
11-20-2013, 10:21 AM
Just read more about it , and it is a windows app....thank you very much!

Sir Skully
11-20-2013, 10:22 AM
Just read more about it , and it is a windows app....thank you very much!

You're welcome... :wave:

fvbounty
11-20-2013, 10:43 AM
Skully I just found this and it works perfect, I couldn't download your app, so I tried this!

How To Automatically Logon To Windows 8 or 8.1 (http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/fl/auto-logon-windows-8.htm)

Sir Skully
11-20-2013, 03:48 PM
Skully I just found this and it works perfect, I couldn't download your app, so I tried this!

How To Automatically Logon To Windows 8 or 8.1 (http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/fl/auto-logon-windows-8.htm)

Yea that's the method I used also... With this chemo brain fog I'd forgot
how to do it... :look:

fvbounty
11-20-2013, 04:57 PM
No problem, I'm the same way....:uplate:

Griff
11-20-2013, 10:47 PM
Yea that's the method I used also... With this chemo brain fog I'd forgot
how to do it... :look:


That's the way I do it too. Put the new EVO in this afternoon, check Skully's other thread...:thumb: * Samsung 840 Pro 512gb...2xRAID-O * - Page 4 - ABXZone Computer Forums (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=122282)

fvbounty
11-21-2013, 07:39 AM
That's the way I do it too. Put the new EVO in this afternoon, check Skully's other thread...:thumb: * Samsung 840 Pro 512gb...2xRAID-O * - Page 4 - ABXZone Computer Forums (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=122282)

Thanks Jerry!