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Schmapdi
11-27-2004, 06:32 PM
Hello,
I'm the proud owner of a Creative Labs DVD combo kit. For those of you who might not remember what this is let me refresh you.
Creative 2x DVD Rom
Creative Dxr2 Decoder card.
I bought this when it first came on the market circa 1997. And though it's done a bang up job it's getting a little long in the tooth. It's an odd and somewhat complicated little setup I've got going and I'm thinking about replacing the mentioned components with something a little more up to date. Unfortunately I've not really kept up with this little corner of the industry so I don't really no how to go about doing this. Some questions:

1. I have a 3 ghz Pentium 4 processor, so decoding wise I doubt I really need hardware anymore. But I'm reluctant to give up the fancy interlacing, etc the card offers. Plus my video card (Radeon 8500)'s tv out doesn't fill my whole screen/offers only 1024 x 768 resolution so it doesn't seem a viable option.

2. The sound needs to pass through my Sb live 5.1 sound card, as I need it to decode the dolby digital for me. (My reciever is only dolby digital ready).
Unless modern DVD playback programs can do this via software as well.

3. It would be nice, but not absolutely necessary if the player could output video files (divx, xvid) through the hardware as well.

4. I'd like a front slot loading DVD-Rom. I think they're neat. Pioneer has a nice one, but it seems impossible to find. Needless to say it needs to recognize the latest media (My DVD-rom, being built before anyone even dreamed of burning their own Dvd's doesn't recognize them).

Thanks for answering any/all of my questions. I'm certainly open to hardware suggestions as well. I'd like to keep the cost of the Drive under 50 bucks, because that seems reasonable for a reader. I'm not sure what a decoder card would cost anymore, but definitely not something I'm looking to spend more than 80-100 bucks on.

Congratulations for making it to the end of an extremely long post.

DaveM
11-27-2004, 06:38 PM
One thing to undrestand about the HollyWood DVD hardware decoders, or others.

The VGA must pass through the Hollywood card before going to your monitor, so that an appropriate Overlay can be created for the DVD Playback on your computer monitor.

If your Computer monitor is an LCD or other digital display device, you are going to NOT want to go this route. Because the resulting Overlay VGA output is Noisy and Messy on a Digital Display Device.

At least this was my own results. I have the Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder, waiting in a box for some day I build an old Pentiun 233 Machine that needs DVD Playback.

You are right about one thing. The Composite and Svideo output of the Hollywood Plus card was far superior to that of the 39 cent add in option the solution of the ATI Video encoder chip offers.

JCNiest5
11-27-2004, 07:04 PM
With more powerful PC these days, a hardware decoder card is not needed anymore. I can play DVD movies all day long my PC with absolutely no performance degrade. With the slower PCs back then (ie: 233/300/333/350 Mhz) I can see the point of using a decoder card. Having said that, if you still have a very old and slow PCI video, you might need the decoder. However, if you have a decent video card, you should be just fine without one. I've never used one since my 233 Mhz days.

Schmapdi
11-27-2004, 07:55 PM
Actually, after looking around it doesn't even seem anyone makes decoder cards anymore. I installed the DVD player that came with my card and it doesn't seem to be able to play video to the television for some reason (although it had a very nice picture on the monitor). In fact it can't/won't display any video at all when I hook up my Radeon to my TV, regardless of what player I'm using.

Actually, scratch that. Upon further testing my card can display video on my television. Just not at the same time it does on my monitor. Kinda a pain but nice to know. (I've never really hooked my pc to my tv before except to playaround a bit). So I'm assuming that the DVD player will too.