Help teach an old computer new tricks !

rdmpe · 08-03-2008, 08:45 AM

Hi,

I have an older computer with PCI slots and an AGP 2x/4x slot. I've heard of lots of trouble with AGP 8x cards in these older AGP slots though I guess they fit.

So I guess I need either a PCI or AGP 2x/4x card that supports my new widescreen monitor at 1680x1050.

I've been having trouble finding this with the older AGP format. I don't care about performance (obviously on this very old machine) so should I just go with a PCI card? If I go PCI, can I get just about any PCI card that does the resolution that I need?

Thanks,
Randy

traveler · 08-03-2008, 09:42 AM

I clicked a couple of times and found this.

Newegg.com - GECUBE GC-R7000L-B3 Radeon 7000 64MB 64-bit DDR AGP 2X/4X Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

rdmpe · 08-03-2008, 11:34 AM

I also saw that one on newegg. But I don't think the radeon 7000 does wide screen resolutions. I thought I needed to go to the radeon 9250 or above.

I'm looking into the ATI software too, my current adaptor which does not show any wide screen resolutions available, is a rage 128 pro ultra. But I don't have any ATI software loaded, just the microsoft drivers.

rdmpe · 08-03-2008, 12:26 PM

I may be wrong about the radeon 9250 as well. According to the ati web site

Radeon™ 9200 Series

It looks like it does not do 1680x1050 resolution.
The site says:

2D display modes:
Resolutions, colors and maximum refresh rates (Hz) in 256, 65K or 16.7M colors:
Monitor Resolution Hz
640x480 200
800x600 200
1024x768 200
1152x864 200
1280x1024 160
1600x1200 120
1920x1080* 16:9 120
1920x1200 100
1920x1440 90
2048x1536 85

**Gorganzola** · 08-03-2008, 03:22 PM

Running 1680 x 1050 is more a driver thing at that point. It's quite possible they published those resolutions before 1680 x 1050 was popular. Maybe check on Rage3D for someone that has more experience with that card. They specailise in ATI products.

rdmpe · 08-03-2008, 04:37 PM

I did find some people running dual 22" monitors at 1680x1050 with a Radeon 9250 card so that's what I decided to get. Picked one up from amazon.com for $44 shipped.

**Gorganzola** · 08-03-2008, 09:12 PM

Sweet, glad you found what you were looking for.

RoadStar · 08-04-2008, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdmpe

Hi,

I have an older computer with PCI slots and an AGP 2x/4x slot. I've heard of lots of trouble with AGP 8x cards in these older AGP slots though I guess they fit.

So I guess I need either a PCI or AGP 2x/4x card that supports my new widescreen monitor at 1680x1050.

I've been having trouble finding this with the older AGP format. I don't care about performance (obviously on this very old machine) so should I just go with a PCI card? If I go PCI, can I get just about any PCI card that does the resolution that I need?

Thanks,
Randy

I have an older MoBo, ASUS P4B533 with only 4X AGP. I bought a EVGA 7600GT 8X AGP and it's working good in my old system, and it does Wide screen Resolutions.........................

Newegg.com - EVGA 512-A8-N559 GeForce 7600GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

rdmpe · 08-04-2008, 01:14 PM

I did a search on 4x/8x compatibility and found that they are supposed to be compatible and a lot of people are doing just what you say is working for you. So I am going to go that route. Opens up the video card selection quite a bit...

rdmpe · 08-04-2008, 01:44 PM

Here's what I ended up ordering
NewBiiz.com - Sapphire ATI Radeon X1600Pro 512MB DVI/VGA/HDTV AGP Video Card, Bulk

Drufuss · 08-05-2008, 03:42 AM

I too had no problems running AGPx8 cards with CUSL2-C AGPx4 slot.

Just saw that HD3850 from Sapphire is available for 106$ on Newegg. Depending on other parts of your rig, you may even be able to play some recent games with this.

Greetings

Dru

08-03-2008, 08:45 AM	#1
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Help teach an old computer new tricks ! Hi, I have an older computer with PCI slots and an AGP 2x/4x slot. I've heard of lots of trouble with AGP 8x cards in these older AGP slots though I guess they fit. So I guess I need either a PCI or AGP 2x/4x card that supports my new widescreen monitor at 1680x1050. I've been having trouble finding this with the older AGP format. I don't care about performance (obviously on this very old machine) so should I just go with a PCI card? If I go PCI, can I get just about any PCI card that does the resolution that I need? Thanks, Randy __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-03-2008, 09:42 AM	#2
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,223	I clicked a couple of times and found this. Newegg.com - GECUBE GC-R7000L-B3 Radeon 7000 64MB 64-bit DDR AGP 2X/4X Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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08-03-2008, 11:34 AM	#3
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! I also saw that one on newegg. But I don't think the radeon 7000 does wide screen resolutions. I thought I needed to go to the radeon 9250 or above. I'm looking into the ATI software too, my current adaptor which does not show any wide screen resolutions available, is a rage 128 pro ultra. But I don't have any ATI software loaded, just the microsoft drivers. __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-03-2008, 12:26 PM	#4
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! I may be wrong about the radeon 9250 as well. According to the ati web site Radeon™ 9200 Series It looks like it does not do 1680x1050 resolution. The site says: 2D display modes: Resolutions, colors and maximum refresh rates (Hz) in 256, 65K or 16.7M colors: Monitor Resolution Hz 640x480 200 800x600 200 1024x768 200 1152x864 200 1280x1024 160 1600x1200 120 1920x1080* 16:9 120 1920x1200 100 1920x1440 90 2048x1536 85 __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-03-2008, 04:37 PM	#6
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! I did find some people running dual 22" monitors at 1680x1050 with a Radeon 9250 card so that's what I decided to get. Picked one up from amazon.com for $44 shipped. __________________ Check out my auctions!
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rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! I did a search on 4x/8x compatibility and found that they are supposed to be compatible and a lot of people are doing just what you say is working for you. So I am going to go that route. Opens up the video card selection quite a bit... __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-04-2008, 01:44 PM	#10
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,609	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! Here's what I ended up ordering NewBiiz.com - Sapphire ATI Radeon X1600Pro 512MB DVI/VGA/HDTV AGP Video Card, Bulk __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-05-2008, 03:42 AM	#11
Drufuss CUSL2-C -> P5Q ? Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Österreich Posts: 2,796	Re: Help teach an old computer new tricks ! I too had no problems running AGPx8 cards with CUSL2-C AGPx4 slot. Just saw that HD3850 from Sapphire is available for 106$ on Newegg. Depending on other parts of your rig, you may even be able to play some recent games with this. Greetings Dru __________________ System specs: Asus P5Q Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz @ 3.42 GHz 4 x 2GB DDR2-Ram PC2-1066 Corsair Dominator @ 800MHz 3 x Seagate 7200.ESII 500GB SATA Sapphire HD4870X2 2048MB Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS, Hauppauge HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T, Dlink DWL-G510, Logitech Z-5450 5.1 THX Wireless Enermax Modu82+ 625W Win XP MCE 2005, openSuse Linux 11 64bit, Vista Home Premium 64bit CUSL2-C ruled! ..äh... RulEd! Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
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