Maxi Gamer Xentor AGP4X?

Slick_abx · 02-11-2001, 02:12 PM

Just installed PowerStrip, and while playing around with this handy little tool, I noticed that it reports that my video card is 4X capable. Nothing in the dox or info that came with the card have anything to say about supporting 4X speeds. Dare I try it? Are there any repercussions like possibly burning out my video card or damaging the AGP on my mobo? My mobo, btw is a CUSL2-C and it supports 4X. Any one out there running a TNT2 Ultra at 4X? Anyone in the august masses have an opinion?

Suspicious Slick

MRC959 · 02-12-2001, 01:42 PM

What TNT2 have you got? Xentor16 or Xentor32? I think that you can´t use AGP 4x in a TNT2, I have a Xentor16 with a P3 733Mhz and I can put AGP 4x but I don´t win performance. I think that the AGP 4x is not suported by TNT2/TNT2 Ultra.

My Computer:
ASUS CUSL2-C
P3 733Mhz (5.5x133)
256Mb RAM at 133Mhz CAS @2-2-3
Maxi Gamer Xentor TNT2 16Mb
SB Life!

Here are my results on 3DMark 2000 and Quake 3.

3Dmark 2000 - 1024x768-16bits Z16 TB.
3470 3dmarks
276 cpumarks

Quake 3 - 16bits MAX Quality.
640x480 = 102,7fps
800x600 = 80,4fps
1024x768 = 55,2fps

Please post in this forum your results, I don´t really know if my VGA is used at 100%. Thanks.

Slick_abx · 02-13-2001, 11:57 PM

On further investigation, the TNT2 Ultra chipset is in fact 4X compliant/capable according to the NVidia specs for the chip. The board I have is the Xentor 32 TNT2 Ultra. I don't use quake and I've never really bothered to benchmark my video. I can tell you that I play Half Life Counter strike in 32bit color with all the effects turned on with a screen size of 1280x1024 and get a reliable 65 fps. I still don't know if this particular board will handle the wider pipe. You say you've tried 4x with no performance gain, do you think its CPU related?

P3 700EB @ 966mhz
CUSL2-C
Crucial 222 256mb at 142mhz
Xentor TNT2 Ultra
Maxi Sound Fortissimo

Slick

Slick_abx · 02-14-2001, 01:51 PM

For anyone thats watching this thread, I've successfully set up my video to run with all the bells and whistles enabled, AGP 4X, USWC, Sidebanding, etc., etc., with no probs. Powerstrip reports:

Diagnostic report
--------------------------------------------------
CPU speed - 966 MHz
System board - Intel
Primary graphics card - nVidia 0029h
Silicon revision - 11h
Graphics memory clock - 183 MHz
Graphics engine clock - 175 MHz
Graphics card BIOS version - 04/29/99
Graphics card IRQ - IRQ11, not shared
Graphics card AGP revision - 2.00
System board AGP aperture - 64 MB
USWC enabled - yes
System board AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x, 4x
Graphics card AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x, 4x
AGP traffic currently enabled - 4x
System board SBA - supported
Graphics card SBA - supported
AGP sideband currently enabled - yes
Pipelined transactions - supported, queue depth of 32
System board fast writes - n/a
Graphics card fast writes - n/a
Fast write protocal currently enabled - no
Graphics card memory - 32 MB
DirectX memory - 27 MB
AGP mode - DMA
Windows version - 4.10.2222
DirectX version - 4.08.00.0400
AGP driver - vgartd.vxd - 1.0.26
GART manager - n/a
Display driver name - nvdisp.drv
Display driver version - 4.12.01.0647
OpenGL driver - nvopengl.dll
OpenGL version - 4.12.01.0647

I don't have the time to do benchmarking, but the video is crisper and frame rates in Counterstrike have increased by about 10-15 percent. Purely anecdotal evidence, but there it is for what it's worth. Anyone else thinking of running your TNT family of video card at AGP 4X, I got this from Guillemot today:

-----cut--------
Dear customer,

All TNT2 series of video cards are capable of using AGP 4x mode. Here is a
comparison sheet from NVIDIA's web site:
http://www.nvidia.com/Products/TNT2.nsf/Matrix.html
-----cut--------

So crank it up! You might not see any performance benifit if your CPU can't push enough data to the card, but if you are running above about 900 mhz, you should see some perf increase.

[Edited by Slick on 02-15-2001 at 09:59 AM]

MRC959 · 02-15-2001, 09:39 AM

Thanks I try it more times....
The URL don't run.
All the TNT2 can run with 4x? Really?
Thanks!

Slick_abx · 02-15-2001, 10:03 AM

Url is fixed....

MRC959 · 02-15-2001, 01:21 PM

Oh! I thought that my TNT2 couldn´t run at AGP 4x!
But I run Powerstip and I can´t Run AGP 4x...
I would to do this. How?
Thanks!!!!!!!!!

02-11-2001, 02:12 PM	#1
Slick_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 10	Just installed PowerStrip, and while playing around with this handy little tool, I noticed that it reports that my video card is 4X capable. Nothing in the dox or info that came with the card have anything to say about supporting 4X speeds. Dare I try it? Are there any repercussions like possibly burning out my video card or damaging the AGP on my mobo? My mobo, btw is a CUSL2-C and it supports 4X. Any one out there running a TNT2 Ultra at 4X? Anyone in the august masses have an opinion? Suspicious Slick __________________ Slick "There are no Lifeguards in the Gene Pool." CUSL2-C P3 700EB @959mhz (137mhz bus) ALPHA FKP38 with Sunon 23 cfm fan 256Meg Crucial PC133 222 Ram ASUS V7700 GForce 2 GTS 32Meg Video Maxtor ATA100 10.2 GB 7200 RPM 2 meg Cache Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo Linksys 10/100 NIC
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02-12-2001, 01:42 PM	#2
MRC959 Porsche Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Barcelona (SPAIN) Posts: 156	What TNT2 have you got? Xentor16 or Xentor32? I think that you can´t use AGP 4x in a TNT2, I have a Xentor16 with a P3 733Mhz and I can put AGP 4x but I don´t win performance. I think that the AGP 4x is not suported by TNT2/TNT2 Ultra. My Computer: ASUS CUSL2-C P3 733Mhz (5.5x133) 256Mb RAM at 133Mhz CAS @2-2-3 Maxi Gamer Xentor TNT2 16Mb SB Life! Here are my results on 3DMark 2000 and Quake 3. 3Dmark 2000 - 1024x768-16bits Z16 TB. 3470 3dmarks 276 cpumarks Quake 3 - 16bits MAX Quality. 640x480 = 102,7fps 800x600 = 80,4fps 1024x768 = 55,2fps Please post in this forum your results, I don´t really know if my VGA is used at 100%. Thanks. __________________ [[[[MRC959]]]] ASUS CUSL2-C 1009 Final PIII 733@830, 1.65 V-Core GlobalWin FOP32-1 (90mm FAN 57CFM) MB 26 C, CPU 41 C (full load) 256Mb Crucial 151Mhz CAS 2-2-2 7/9 Strong VIO 3.66 GeForce2 PRO 64Mb @ 250/480Mhz Seagate 40Gb 5400rpm ATA100 Seagate 15Gb 5400rpm ATA66 Parallel Port ZIP 100 SB Live! Value Pioneer 16X DVD DMA-66 ASUS iPanel Windows XP 2600
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02-13-2001, 11:57 PM	#3
Slick_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 10	On further investigation, the TNT2 Ultra chipset is in fact 4X compliant/capable according to the NVidia specs for the chip. The board I have is the Xentor 32 TNT2 Ultra. I don't use quake and I've never really bothered to benchmark my video. I can tell you that I play Half Life Counter strike in 32bit color with all the effects turned on with a screen size of 1280x1024 and get a reliable 65 fps. I still don't know if this particular board will handle the wider pipe. You say you've tried 4x with no performance gain, do you think its CPU related? P3 700EB @ 966mhz CUSL2-C Crucial 222 256mb at 142mhz Xentor TNT2 Ultra Maxi Sound Fortissimo Slick __________________ Slick "There are no Lifeguards in the Gene Pool." CUSL2-C P3 700EB @959mhz (137mhz bus) ALPHA FKP38 with Sunon 23 cfm fan 256Meg Crucial PC133 222 Ram ASUS V7700 GForce 2 GTS 32Meg Video Maxtor ATA100 10.2 GB 7200 RPM 2 meg Cache Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo Linksys 10/100 NIC
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02-14-2001, 01:51 PM	#4
Slick_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 10	For anyone thats watching this thread, I've successfully set up my video to run with all the bells and whistles enabled, AGP 4X, USWC, Sidebanding, etc., etc., with no probs. Powerstrip reports: Diagnostic report -------------------------------------------------- CPU speed - 966 MHz System board - Intel Primary graphics card - nVidia 0029h Silicon revision - 11h Graphics memory clock - 183 MHz Graphics engine clock - 175 MHz Graphics card BIOS version - 04/29/99 Graphics card IRQ - IRQ11, not shared Graphics card AGP revision - 2.00 System board AGP aperture - 64 MB USWC enabled - yes System board AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x, 4x Graphics card AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x, 4x AGP traffic currently enabled - 4x System board SBA - supported Graphics card SBA - supported AGP sideband currently enabled - yes Pipelined transactions - supported, queue depth of 32 System board fast writes - n/a Graphics card fast writes - n/a Fast write protocal currently enabled - no Graphics card memory - 32 MB DirectX memory - 27 MB AGP mode - DMA Windows version - 4.10.2222 DirectX version - 4.08.00.0400 AGP driver - vgartd.vxd - 1.0.26 GART manager - n/a Display driver name - nvdisp.drv Display driver version - 4.12.01.0647 OpenGL driver - nvopengl.dll OpenGL version - 4.12.01.0647 I don't have the time to do benchmarking, but the video is crisper and frame rates in Counterstrike have increased by about 10-15 percent. Purely anecdotal evidence, but there it is for what it's worth. Anyone else thinking of running your TNT family of video card at AGP 4X, I got this from Guillemot today: -----cut-------- Dear customer, All TNT2 series of video cards are capable of using AGP 4x mode. Here is a comparison sheet from NVIDIA's web site: http://www.nvidia.com/Products/TNT2.nsf/Matrix.html -----cut-------- So crank it up! You might not see any performance benifit if your CPU can't push enough data to the card, but if you are running above about 900 mhz, you should see some perf increase. [Edited by Slick on 02-15-2001 at 09:59 AM] __________________ Slick "There are no Lifeguards in the Gene Pool." CUSL2-C P3 700EB @959mhz (137mhz bus) ALPHA FKP38 with Sunon 23 cfm fan 256Meg Crucial PC133 222 Ram ASUS V7700 GForce 2 GTS 32Meg Video Maxtor ATA100 10.2 GB 7200 RPM 2 meg Cache Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo Linksys 10/100 NIC
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02-15-2001, 09:39 AM	#5
MRC959 Porsche Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Barcelona (SPAIN) Posts: 156	Thanks I try it more times.... The URL don't run. All the TNT2 can run with 4x? Really? Thanks! __________________ [[[[MRC959]]]] ASUS CUSL2-C 1009 Final PIII 733@830, 1.65 V-Core GlobalWin FOP32-1 (90mm FAN 57CFM) MB 26 C, CPU 41 C (full load) 256Mb Crucial 151Mhz CAS 2-2-2 7/9 Strong VIO 3.66 GeForce2 PRO 64Mb @ 250/480Mhz Seagate 40Gb 5400rpm ATA100 Seagate 15Gb 5400rpm ATA66 Parallel Port ZIP 100 SB Live! Value Pioneer 16X DVD DMA-66 ASUS iPanel Windows XP 2600
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02-15-2001, 10:03 AM	#6
Slick_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 10	Url is fixed.... __________________ Slick "There are no Lifeguards in the Gene Pool." CUSL2-C P3 700EB @959mhz (137mhz bus) ALPHA FKP38 with Sunon 23 cfm fan 256Meg Crucial PC133 222 Ram ASUS V7700 GForce 2 GTS 32Meg Video Maxtor ATA100 10.2 GB 7200 RPM 2 meg Cache Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo Linksys 10/100 NIC
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02-15-2001, 01:21 PM	#7
MRC959 Porsche Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Barcelona (SPAIN) Posts: 156	Oh! I thought that my TNT2 couldn´t run at AGP 4x! But I run Powerstip and I can´t Run AGP 4x... I would to do this. How? Thanks!!!!!!!!! __________________ [[[[MRC959]]]] ASUS CUSL2-C 1009 Final PIII 733@830, 1.65 V-Core GlobalWin FOP32-1 (90mm FAN 57CFM) MB 26 C, CPU 41 C (full load) 256Mb Crucial 151Mhz CAS 2-2-2 7/9 Strong VIO 3.66 GeForce2 PRO 64Mb @ 250/480Mhz Seagate 40Gb 5400rpm ATA100 Seagate 15Gb 5400rpm ATA66 Parallel Port ZIP 100 SB Live! Value Pioneer 16X DVD DMA-66 ASUS iPanel Windows XP 2600
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