Sapphire HD 4850 cards.

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 08:58 AM

Pic of Sapphires new 1GB GDDR 4850. I'm going to wait for the Toxic version to come out.

Fudzilla

fvbounty · 07-08-2008, 09:01 AM

Do you think they will come out with a 1 gig 4870 card with the 2 slot cooler?

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 10:03 AM

Yes they will. Apparently GDDR5 isn't as scarce as anticipated.

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 10:06 AM

The performance of the 4850 is well enough for me, ditto the power required. The Toxic version will have faster clocks though which will push performance by a good margin. A stock-clocked HD 4850 would be sufficient but I'll take the added speed. Hopefully NE won't gouge the buyer too much when this card comes out. Hoping for $30 more over regular HD 4850's. Also hope the Toxic has a red PCB but I doubt it. Color is critical.

fvbounty · 07-08-2008, 10:09 AM

Have you noticed its seems like its only newegg anymore, no Zipzoom, Directron, or other sellers...seems like Newegg is the one and only any more!

sammy2066 · 07-08-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

Color is critical.

Hahahah ... well said Sandog!

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 12:41 PM

The question I have is how does the HDMI work by using an HDMI to DVI adapter. It must change the output on the board somehow when this adapter is used. I want to get an HDMI cable for better quality. Not surprisingly, all the HD 48xx reviews mention FPS, FPS, FPS but not HDMI support or quality, ony FPS(FPS).

ATI Radeon 4800 launch details

fvbounty · 07-08-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

The question I have is how does the HDMI work by using an HDMI to DVI adapter. It must change the output on the board somehow when this adapter is used. I want to get an HDMI cable for better quality. Not surprisingly, all the HD 48xx reviews mention FPS, FPS, FPS but not HDMI support or quality, ony FPS(FPS).

ATI Radeon 4800 launch details

You won't get better quality going from DVI to hdmi, only you get the sound with hdmi.....dvi and hdmi are all digital no difference, now you might get better with hdmi 1.3, not really up on that new spec, I know you have to get the better hdmi 1.3 cable to receive the benefits of the new specs.....by the way go to monoprice for any cables !

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 02:59 PM

I am aware of what HDMI has but the link I posted above (couple of times) describes better color but is not detailed.
"""The Radeon 4800 series also includes 7.1 channel-via-HDMI support and color output also got a “significant” boost, our sources said. We were unable to confirm HDMI 1.3 support, but we would not be surprised if that in fact is the case. The Unified Video Decoder is now in generation 2 and is called "UVD2"."""

On AMD's site a feature list says "HDMI - Enjoy the latest audio technologies using HDMI with 7.1 digital surround sound support. Also, xvYCC support allows the user to enjoy a wider range of color when connected to a capable HDTV."

This doesn't look like it applies to me so I will stick with the DVI cable. Also, those DVI to HDMI adapters aren't cheap (I've seen them over $30) so hold on to the one you get.

yamawho · 07-08-2008, 04:39 PM

You may also need to use VISTA as the OS to take advantage of HDMI.
I had no luck getting sound from HDMI although video was good with XP.
It could very well be that the drivers for XP are still broken.
However, after a VISTA install and installing the HDMI drivers, I was able to adjust settings for HDMI.

Drufuss · 07-08-2008, 04:46 PM

If your monitor or tv has hdmi1.3 support you'll get better colours over HDMI, and you also should be able to use longer cables (HDMI has higher voltage).

Greetings

Dru

**Sandog** · 07-08-2008, 05:58 PM

I have a good monitor> Dell2408FWP that says it does HDMI. You can actually hook up your speakers to the audio out on the monitor if you use the HDMI input. Anyway, I guess I will buy a HDMI cable and give it a go w/Vista. Also you can buy a DVI to HDMI cable and forgo using the adapter with the new ATI cards.

yamawho · 07-17-2008, 07:43 AM

Went to the ATI site looking for cats that support the HD 4850 ... there itn't any. I was going the buy the Diamond HD 4850 ... where are the drivers ?

yamawho · 07-17-2008, 07:59 AM

Found this ... 8.7 leaked beta

Fudzilla - Catalyst 8.7 beta leaked

**Sandog** · 07-17-2008, 10:20 AM

Try here.

AMD GAME Drivers & Tools

07-08-2008, 08:58 AM	#1
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07-08-2008, 10:03 AM	#3
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07-08-2008, 10:06 AM	#4
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,962	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. The performance of the 4850 is well enough for me, ditto the power required. The Toxic version will have faster clocks though which will push performance by a good margin. A stock-clocked HD 4850 would be sufficient but I'll take the added speed. Hopefully NE won't gouge the buyer too much when this card comes out. Hoping for $30 more over regular HD 4850's. Also hope the Toxic has a red PCB but I doubt it. Color is critical. __________________ Waiting for//Vista Ultimate 64bit//Intel Q9650//Intel DP45SG//SuperTalent DDR3-1600 4GB (2X2GB) CL7//Antec Three Hundred Case//Antec NeoPower 550 PS//SAPPHIRE HD 4850 TOXIC Edition//Western Digital VelociRaptor//Western Digital WD5000AAKS(backup)//Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP Monitor//Logitech G5 Mouse//MS Digital Media Keyboard 3000//ASUS DRW-2014L1T DVD Burner//Cambridge SoundWorks MegaWorks 210D Speakers//Cannon MX700 All-in-One Printer
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07-08-2008, 10:09 AM	#5
fvbounty Eat Wild Pacific Salmon Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Alameda Ca Posts: 5,119	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. Have you noticed its seems like its only newegg anymore, no Zipzoom, Directron, or other sellers...seems like Newegg is the one and only any more! __________________ New Gaming rig - Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wi-Fi - Intel QX9650 - CORSAIR TWIN3X2048-1600C7DHXIN 2GB PC3-12800 - 150 gig Raptor - 320 gig WD 3200YS - Corsair HX 620 watt PS - EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB - AMD FX 55 - XP-90C & SilentCat 9 - Asus A8N-SLI with Swiftech MCX159 - 2X1024 Corsair 3500LLPro 2-3-2-6 1T - 2X BFG 6800GT OC Zalman VF700-CU - 1 WD 74 Gig Raptor boot - 1 Seagate 7200 sata data - Nec 3500A - Plextor 716AL Slot Loader - Enermax EG 701 AX 600 watt PS - Silverstone Temjin TJ03B case with side window - G7 lazer mouse - Cannon Pixma I8500 printer - Windows XP Pro SP2 Slipstreamed - Dell 2405FPW lcd
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07-08-2008, 12:41 PM	#7
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,962	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. The question I have is how does the HDMI work by using an HDMI to DVI adapter. It must change the output on the board somehow when this adapter is used. I want to get an HDMI cable for better quality. Not surprisingly, all the HD 48xx reviews mention FPS, FPS, FPS but not HDMI support or quality, ony FPS(FPS). ATI Radeon 4800 launch details __________________ Waiting for//Vista Ultimate 64bit//Intel Q9650//Intel DP45SG//SuperTalent DDR3-1600 4GB (2X2GB) CL7//Antec Three Hundred Case//Antec NeoPower 550 PS//SAPPHIRE HD 4850 TOXIC Edition//Western Digital VelociRaptor//Western Digital WD5000AAKS(backup)//Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP Monitor//Logitech G5 Mouse//MS Digital Media Keyboard 3000//ASUS DRW-2014L1T DVD Burner//Cambridge SoundWorks MegaWorks 210D Speakers//Cannon MX700 All-in-One Printer
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07-08-2008, 02:59 PM	#9
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,962	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. I am aware of what HDMI has but the link I posted above (couple of times) describes better color but is not detailed. """The Radeon 4800 series also includes 7.1 channel-via-HDMI support and color output also got a “significant” boost, our sources said. We were unable to confirm HDMI 1.3 support, but we would not be surprised if that in fact is the case. The Unified Video Decoder is now in generation 2 and is called "UVD2".""" On AMD's site a feature list says "HDMI - Enjoy the latest audio technologies using HDMI with 7.1 digital surround sound support. Also, xvYCC support allows the user to enjoy a wider range of color when connected to a capable HDTV." This doesn't look like it applies to me so I will stick with the DVI cable. Also, those DVI to HDMI adapters aren't cheap (I've seen them over $30) so hold on to the one you get. __________________ Waiting for//Vista Ultimate 64bit//Intel Q9650//Intel DP45SG//SuperTalent DDR3-1600 4GB (2X2GB) CL7//Antec Three Hundred Case//Antec NeoPower 550 PS//SAPPHIRE HD 4850 TOXIC Edition//Western Digital VelociRaptor//Western Digital WD5000AAKS(backup)//Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP Monitor//Logitech G5 Mouse//MS Digital Media Keyboard 3000//ASUS DRW-2014L1T DVD Burner//Cambridge SoundWorks MegaWorks 210D Speakers//Cannon MX700 All-in-One Printer
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07-08-2008, 04:39 PM	#10
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07-08-2008, 04:46 PM	#11
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07-08-2008, 05:58 PM	#12
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,962	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. I have a good monitor> Dell2408FWP that says it does HDMI. You can actually hook up your speakers to the audio out on the monitor if you use the HDMI input. Anyway, I guess I will buy a HDMI cable and give it a go w/Vista. Also you can buy a DVI to HDMI cable and forgo using the adapter with the new ATI cards. __________________ Waiting for//Vista Ultimate 64bit//Intel Q9650//Intel DP45SG//SuperTalent DDR3-1600 4GB (2X2GB) CL7//Antec Three Hundred Case//Antec NeoPower 550 PS//SAPPHIRE HD 4850 TOXIC Edition//Western Digital VelociRaptor//Western Digital WD5000AAKS(backup)//Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP Monitor//Logitech G5 Mouse//MS Digital Media Keyboard 3000//ASUS DRW-2014L1T DVD Burner//Cambridge SoundWorks MegaWorks 210D Speakers//Cannon MX700 All-in-One Printer
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07-17-2008, 07:43 AM	#13
yamawho Linux user Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 4,016	Re: Sapphire HD 4850 cards. Went to the ATI site looking for cats that support the HD 4850 ... there itn't any. I was going the buy the Diamond HD 4850 ... where are the drivers ? __________________
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07-17-2008, 07:59 AM	#14
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07-17-2008, 10:20 AM	#15
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