Who's getting a GTX 280 in June ?

[Kimbo]

As soon as it's released on June 17th, and there are a few major sites confirming what's already rumor about how fast they are, I'm getting one. Anyone else getting one within the first week ?? (Or even the 260)

[jaketerminate]

Ill probably pick one up, I mean why not? Ill probably trade up my GX2 after I read some of the first reviews that come out.

[TQ]

Considering we know very little about either ATi's or nVidia's next-generation cards right now isn't this putting the cart before the horse?
Sure, the cards will be fast but how expensive will they be? How will the value of the two company's products compare? How long will the 280's be produced with GDDR3? Will nVidia release GDDR5 versions?

Purchase as soon as they're released? I think not. I'd rather see everyone's cards on the table and think about it for a while.
No option for that answer in the poll...

[jaketerminate]

Originally Posted by TQ

Considering we know very little about either ATi's or nVidia's next-generation cards right now isn't this putting the cart before the horse?
Sure, the cards will be fast but how expensive will they be? How will the value of the two company's products compare? How long will the 280's be produced with GDDR3? Will nVidia release GDDR5 versions?

Purchase as soon as they're released? I think not. I'd rather see everyone's cards on the table and think about it for a while.
No option for that answer in the poll...

Good points of interest, haven't thought about it that way, I was concerned about keeping up with the latest tech.

[TQ]

Originally Posted by jaketerminate

Good points of interest, haven't thought about it that way, I was concerned about keeping up with the latest tech.

I can appreciate that. Still, I'm not sure that the nVidia cards will be all that advanced, at least at first. If ATi does really well with their GDDR5 cards - and I don't see why they won't - nVidia's tech might look a little long in the tooth at having stayed with GDDR3.
I have a feeling that the GDDR3 280's won't have a very long lifespan and anyone paying a premium price for the initial cards may come to regret that decision.

[zapionics<alt>]

Originally Posted by TQ

I can appreciate that. Still, I'm not sure that the nVidia cards will be all that advanced, at least at first. If ATi does really well with their GDDR5 cards - and I don't see why they won't - nVidia's tech might look a little long in the tooth at having stayed with GDDR3.
I have a feeling that the GDDR3 280's won't have a very long lifespan and anyone paying a premium price for the initial cards may come to regret that decision.

What are the GDDR5 cards you refer to? Do you mean the ATI 48xx series? As far as I can tell from all the reports leaked to date, the GTX 2xx will smoke them.

I'm a little concerned about the heat (and noise) the cards will generate. It seems a little foreboding that they have those extra vents and the 6 as well as 8 pin power sockets.

I'll probably hold back for the first reviews and then jump in just to be sure theres no funny business, not that I dont trust Nvidia... <cough>
Currently building the platform the GTX will be bedded down in...

[sammy2066]

I hear that monster uses 2 6-pin connectors ... and runs very hot.

[RaVeN_1]

Nah, I think I'll stay with ATi/AMD GFX cards, my 3870X2 runs just fine, maybe I'll upgrade to two 4870s or two 4870X2s

RaVeN_1

[Kimbo]

TQ, you are missing the point.
this thread is for people who already KNOW plenty about the cards, not for the general public. there is plenty of official nvidia data from their presentation, all the "mucho grande" boys have the cards and have just gotten the drivers too. (because nvidia gave them the cards with no drivers at first) so now as we speak they are testing and benchmarking these puppies so they have their reviews on the 17th when the nda is lifted. understand ? this is nothing new and is what went down with the 8800gtx back in november 2006. after a week or so i got one. i made sure it was one of the new batch that didn't have that issue. so again, i'll give it a week or so to see if there are any issues and such and then get one. i, being an true enthusiast, didn't jump on the half arsed 9800gtx or gx2 because they were not the 8800gtx's true successors - the gtx280 is, or just as good as is.

as for the rest, heat and noise is supposed to be equal or less then a 8800gtx. reviews will point this out. so unless the consensus is otherwise, that shouldn't be an issue. as for the 6/8pin plugs ? so what ? these cards are meant for a specific market not for 15yo andy the child or 67yo george the grandpa, eh ? and there is already some early leaked benchmark info that shows it gives 15-35% over 9800gtx and such depending on the games/programs. ...and so much more... (the market that will buy the 280's , already have 500+ watt top brand psu's)

so again, this isn't a general "gpu" thread. it's a very specific question thread to find out who else, other then myself, will get one on launch ? nothing more nothing less.

ps: as for gddr3 vs 4 or 5 ....you guys don't understand how that works. at this stage even thou they use older ram because it's established and is used with wider pipes and stuff it still beats the newer ram anyway. just like the fastest gaming setups today are still ddr2 ram systems not ddr3 one's. (give this another 1-2 years and then yes, but by then nvidia will use gddr4/5 ram also, i suppose.) plus what are you guys trolling ??? i mean i wouldn't care if they used 70ns sdram from 1990 as long as the becnhmarks show/prove that the new cards beat whatever card is the king of today by 15-35%, and this is just what is happening. and indeed since they use "older" ram and still beat gddr4/5 ram version cards from amd that only goes to prove how good nvidia is at optimizing current technology - and thus you shoot yourself in the foot, because what you tried to do was show that nvidia use older tech as opposed to amd but yet the benchmark show that even this "old" tech beats amd's best using new technology. so like nelson muntz would say:"ha ha"

[TQ]

Originally Posted by zapionics<alt>

What are the GDDR5 cards you refer to? Do you mean the ATI 48xx series? As far as I can tell from all the reports leaked to date, the GTX 2xx will smoke them.

Yes sir, I'm speaking of the 48-series and you're right...it's rumored that the 280's will be faster.
But how much faster and at what cost?
It's also rumored that the 280's will be over well over a hundred dollars more (possibly closer to two hundred) than the 48x's. How much more performance over the 48x will that money by you? If I can get a 48x card for $349 that (finally) significantly betters the performance of my 8800GTX for a little over half what I paid for it in November of '06, I have to look hard at that card.
I also have to factor in energy use requirements, where it's rumored the ATi card will beat the nVidia.
I'm thinking, too, that the initial-generation 280's won't be around long if GDDR5 takes off, which seems likely. Of course, that's more speculation on my part than rumor but since we really don't know anything about these cards why not toss that in? I think nVidia will introduce the 280 successor in Q1 '09, so those who paid a premium for this Q's model may not find themselves with another long-lived 8800GTX but something that looks dated within six months.

My point is that we don't know anything about these cards other than rumor. We've seen no tests and no comparisons. This isn't like when the 8800GTX was released and it was clear that ATi would have no part that could compete.
So...to make a blanket statement that I'm going to buy a 280 the moment that horse is out the gate doesn't take into account the other horse in the race.
And that other horse just might make a strong enough second place finish to make him the better bet.

[zapionics<alt>]

Originally Posted by TQ

Yes sir, I'm speaking of the 48-series and you're right...it's rumored that the 280's will be faster.
But how much faster and at what cost? ...

We'll have to wait and see. Will be a nice upgrade to my X1950 Pro,either way

Originally Posted by TQ

...I'm thinking, too, that the initial-generation 280's won't be around long if GDDR5 takes off, which seems likely. ... I think nVidia will introduce the 280 successor in Q1 '09, ...

I really hope you're wrong about that... but I'm still waiting to play Crysis at decent frame rate and it looks like the GTX 280 may deliver it.

[Briton]

Originally Posted by Kimbo

TQ, you are missing the point.
this thread is for people who already KNOW plenty about the cards, not for the general public. there is plenty of official nvidia data from their presentation, all the "mucho grande" boys have the cards and have just gotten the drivers too. (because nvidia gave them the cards with no drivers at first) so now as we speak they are testing and benchmarking these puppies so they have their reviews on the 17th when the nda is lifted. understand ? this is nothing new and is what went down with the 8800gtx back in november 2006. after a week or so i got one. i made sure it was one of the new batch that didn't have that issue. so again, i'll give it a week or so to see if there are any issues and such and then get one. i, being an true enthusiast, didn't jump on the half arsed 9800gtx or gx2 because they were not the 8800gtx's true successors - the gtx280 is, or just as good as is.

as for the rest, heat and noise is supposed to be equal or less then a 8800gtx. reviews will point this out. so unless the consensus is otherwise, that shouldn't be an issue. as for the 6/8pin plugs ? so what ? these cards are meant for a specific market not for 15yo andy the child or 67yo george the grandpa, eh ? and there is already some early leaked benchmark info that shows it gives 15-35% over 9800gtx and such depending on the games/programs. ...and so much more... (the market that will buy the 280's , already have 500+ watt top brand psu's)

so again, this isn't a general "gpu" thread. it's a very specific question thread to find out who else, other then myself, will get one on launch ? nothing more nothing less.

ps: as for gddr3 vs 4 or 5 ....you guys don't understand how that works. at this stage even thou they use older ram because it's established and is used with wider pipes and stuff it still beats the newer ram anyway. just like the fastest gaming setups today are still ddr2 ram systems not ddr3 one's. (give this another 1-2 years and then yes, but by then nvidia will use gddr4/5 ram also, i suppose.) plus what are you guys trolling ??? i mean i wouldn't care if they used 70ns sdram from 1990 as long as the becnhmarks show/prove that the new cards beat whatever card is the king of today by 15-35%, and this is just what is happening. and indeed since they use "older" ram and still beat gddr4/5 ram version cards from amd that only goes to prove how good nvidia is at optimizing current technology - and thus you shoot yourself in the foot, because what you tried to do was show that nvidia use older tech as opposed to amd but yet the benchmark show that even this "old" tech beats amd's best using new technology. so like nelson muntz would say:"ha ha"

It seems like you're a little harsh in this statement, my friend. TQ has very valid points, and if all you care about who is getting one in June and who isn't, why is there four options to choose from? You should have put a "Yes," and a "No," if you want to back up anything you said about this.

Yes, there's an enthusiast market, but most enthusiasts also do a lot of research, spend time looking at the hardware that is going to get them the farthest with what is available not only today but down the road as well. Right here you're just sounding like a fan boy.

As far as DDR3 being slow, that is not exactly the case...I have not kept up on as much information as I used to, but I've still seen some amazingly fast and promising DDR3 benchmarks--couple this with the new Nehalem later this year and you could see some ground breaking results. But, I digress...

You shouldn't be knocking anyone that's bringing up valid points in which card they are going to choose by waiting for actual results and seeing what will come from cards with GDDR5 when the thread leaves so many options open in the poll, and not very good ones to begin with, when all you wanted was a "Yes, I am getting the GTX 280 on launch date" and a "No, I am not."

If that is truly all you care about as you say, I would change the poll, or leave the thread be as people discuss what to me seems like reasonable points about the upcoming cards from ATi/nVIDIA.

[TQ]

Originally Posted by Kimbo

TQ, you are missing the point.
this thread is for people who already KNOW plenty about the cards, not for the general public.

How can one know anything substantial about a product that, as yet, has had no official release?
I spent two (slow work) days last week searching for information on both nVidia's and ATi's new cards and found very little in the way of hard information, certainly nothing I'd care to make a buying decision on at this point.

Originally Posted by Kimbo

so like nelson muntz would say:"ha ha"

I don't think I'd take Nelson's word on much of anything, really. Speaking of trolls, he does somewhat resemble one.

[jaketerminate]

Originally Posted by TQ

I don't think I'd take Nelson's word on much of anything, really. Speaking of trolls, he does somewhat resemble one.

[Gr8Golf]

I just set up an 8800GTS 512 setup in January - and each card was $300. Same cards are going for WAY less 3 months later. I am going to drop way back on the adoption scale going forward. And I think I'm done with SLI due to heat and noise levels.