Windows Vista 64 gaming

ATINUT · 09-17-2007, 10:02 PM

My Windows Vista 64 gaming expirence took a dramatic turn for the better recently.

I reinstalled Windows Vista 64, installed all the compatibility patches, including the SLI/Crossfire patch, the beta 163.67 Nvidia drivers for Vista 64, and started installing games.

Among the games I have installed that actually work now, compared to earlier this year, when I had an AMD Crossfire rig, when most games wouldn't even run on Vista 64, include Quake 4 patched to version 1.4.2, and Knights Of The Old Republic. One of the other reasons I'm also having better luck now, getting games running, is once they are installed, if they are not a native Windows Vista Game bearing the Games for Windows Logo, like Company Of Heroes does, on the compatibility tab, I disable the Windows Vista visual theme and set the game to run in Windows XP with Service Pack 2 mode.

*SRTDodge05* · 09-17-2007, 11:00 PM

64bit has come a long way but still needs a lot more work.

ATINUT · 09-17-2007, 11:17 PM

I know, and the upcoming service pack will help dramatically.

S.SubZero · 09-18-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRTDodge05

64bit has come a long way but still needs a lot more work.

It's not the 64-bit OS that's to blame when an old game doesn't work. The game was likely written in an abnormal way that assumed too much about the host OS.

So far every game I have that I tried on Vista x64 ran without issue.

*SRTDodge05* · 09-18-2007, 06:38 PM

I switch between 32bit and 64bit and i dont see a performance difference at all.

hansje · 09-19-2007, 04:16 AM

Maybe Black Vipers page can help, he is back...also with VISTA guides.
Black Viper's Web Site

Not using VISTA myself, just want to help

hansje

shaihulud · 09-19-2007, 08:22 AM

Actually, I would never recommend his implications. He has been proven false and inaccurate. He even had such notifications within the web site. Stating how a service was disabled, but he had no ramifications from it, to his knowledge, as of that time printed.

It is better to leave services as installed by the Operating System. However, if resources from reputable sources, give managing advice then I would be more keen to it. An example would be a resource kit from Microsoft.

Remember most tweaks, are not tweaks. Many have no effect on the system performance and may give back only a minuscule amount of RAM for an issue that it most likely will cause. This even goes for Linux also. I have seen much in error with Linux for “tweaks” too.

hansje · 09-19-2007, 08:38 AM

TweakGuides.com - The TweakGuides Tweaking Companion

This one looks very nice

A lot of info, always interesting...although a lot of reading.
I have learned a lot.

hansje

shaihulud · 09-19-2007, 10:06 AM

Hansje, it is better to learn a lot from credible sources. Take for instance a common tweak of turning off indexing service in Windows XP. This can easily be disproved by showing you that indexing is already disabled and not in use at all!

Right click on My Computer and move the pointer down to manage and select this. The Computer Management console will be loaded and you will need to navigate the pointer to the last option within the option pane. This will be Services and Applications. Expand this category by clicking on the plus. The last option within this category will be the Indexing Service. Select this option with the pointer and once highlighted note the play arrow within the tool bar. Do not click on this option by move the pointer over to have the tool tip highlight pop up. Note that it says “Start Indexing.” Indexing has never been on, nor have paths been to set for indexing to monitor except C:\System Volume Information.

Many of the tweaks have been debunked and proven false. Usually, the best tweak is not to follow their advice. Unless it is a credible source with proven information concerning the applicable configuration that may give a more optimal performance. Always take what is given as such with a grain of salt, especially if on the Internet.

09-17-2007, 10:02 PM	#1
ATINUT Just Plain Crazy! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,278	Windows Vista 64 gaming My Windows Vista 64 gaming expirence took a dramatic turn for the better recently. I reinstalled Windows Vista 64, installed all the compatibility patches, including the SLI/Crossfire patch, the beta 163.67 Nvidia drivers for Vista 64, and started installing games. Among the games I have installed that actually work now, compared to earlier this year, when I had an AMD Crossfire rig, when most games wouldn't even run on Vista 64, include Quake 4 patched to version 1.4.2, and Knights Of The Old Republic. One of the other reasons I'm also having better luck now, getting games running, is once they are installed, if they are not a native Windows Vista Game bearing the Games for Windows Logo, like Company Of Heroes does, on the compatibility tab, I disable the Windows Vista visual theme and set the game to run in Windows XP with Service Pack 2 mode.
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09-17-2007, 11:00 PM	#2
SRTDodge05 Grab Life By The Balls Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,830	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming 64bit has come a long way but still needs a lot more work.
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09-17-2007, 11:17 PM	#3
ATINUT Just Plain Crazy! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,278	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming I know, and the upcoming service pack will help dramatically.
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09-18-2007, 06:38 PM	#5
SRTDodge05 Grab Life By The Balls Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,830	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming I switch between 32bit and 64bit and i dont see a performance difference at all.
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09-19-2007, 04:16 AM	#6
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming Maybe Black Vipers page can help, he is back...also with VISTA guides. Black Viper's Web Site Not using VISTA myself, just want to help hansje __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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09-19-2007, 08:22 AM	#7
shaihulud Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,239	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming Actually, I would never recommend his implications. He has been proven false and inaccurate. He even had such notifications within the web site. Stating how a service was disabled, but he had no ramifications from it, to his knowledge, as of that time printed. It is better to leave services as installed by the Operating System. However, if resources from reputable sources, give managing advice then I would be more keen to it. An example would be a resource kit from Microsoft. Remember most tweaks, are not tweaks. Many have no effect on the system performance and may give back only a minuscule amount of RAM for an issue that it most likely will cause. This even goes for Linux also. I have seen much in error with Linux for “tweaks” too.
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09-19-2007, 08:38 AM	#8
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming TweakGuides.com - The TweakGuides Tweaking Companion This one looks very nice A lot of info, always interesting...although a lot of reading. I have learned a lot. hansje __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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09-19-2007, 10:06 AM	#9
shaihulud Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,239	Re: Windows Vista 64 gaming Hansje, it is better to learn a lot from credible sources. Take for instance a common tweak of turning off indexing service in Windows XP. This can easily be disproved by showing you that indexing is already disabled and not in use at all! Right click on My Computer and move the pointer down to manage and select this. The Computer Management console will be loaded and you will need to navigate the pointer to the last option within the option pane. This will be Services and Applications. Expand this category by clicking on the plus. The last option within this category will be the Indexing Service. Select this option with the pointer and once highlighted note the play arrow within the tool bar. Do not click on this option by move the pointer over to have the tool tip highlight pop up. Note that it says “Start Indexing.” Indexing has never been on, nor have paths been to set for indexing to monitor except C:\System Volume Information. Many of the tweaks have been debunked and proven false. Usually, the best tweak is not to follow their advice. Unless it is a credible source with proven information concerning the applicable configuration that may give a more optimal performance. Always take what is given as such with a grain of salt, especially if on the Internet.
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