How room temp. affects processor temp. (graphs)

[graysky]

I was curious just how much room temperature can affect the temperature of the PC. I chose to look at the CPU since Speedfan can monitor and log temps for each of the 4 cores in my Q6600, and since of all the components, the CPU is probably the most sensitive to changes in air temp. since mine is air cooled.

Anyway, I did the same x264.exe encode that I have been doing for all my temperature comparisons and monitored room temp. with a calibrated digital thermometer at several points during each encode. These were averaged and graphed against the averaged reported core temp* values from Speedfan for the entire second pass of a 2-pass x264 encode of the same video file. I was happy to see that for the different room temps used, the increases were pretty linear (certainly within error).

Result:
You can see by the slopes of the regression line that every delta °F of room temp. affected the average core temp by about 0.8 °C and for your Celsius folks, every delta °C of room temp. affected the average core temp by about 1-1/2 °C.

So what does this mean and why do you care? Well, using these rules of thumb, if it's currently 70 °F in your room, and your average load core temp is 65 °C, you can expect that to change by roughly 0.8 °C for every single °F your room temp. change. Say your room hits 80 °F. Your load core temp should increase from 65 to 73 °C which may be unacceptable to you and you might want to adjust your o/c accordingly. This is just an approximation based on my system. Your mileage may vary...

*The numbers I used are equivalent to those collected by TAT or RMClock: these temps are core temps. As I understand it, TJunction never changes and is a fixed value for a given chip. The Quads get a values of 100 °C and the duals get 85 °C. The core temp is defined as:

Core temp = TJunction - DTS

Example, DTS reads 62.  You take 100-62=38 and your core temp is 38 °C.

DTS (Digital Thermal Sensor) can be read directly for each core. See this thread for more on reading your DTS directly without software like TAT or RMClock paying attention to uncleweb's posts using crystalCPUID to read the DTS directly. When I tried this method, I was able to get the same values for the core temps on my Q6600 as TAT and RMClock gave me. For some reason, Speedfan always shows cooler core temps for my chip which I corrected by adding 15 °C to each temp (the table is CORRECTED temps). Read more about that in the caption under the graph.

Raw data and graphs
Hardware specs: Q6600 (lapped) @ 9x333, Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped), P5B-Del., P182 case w/ 4 fans on low, Corsair 620HX, Ballistix DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 (1:1 Mem:CPU).



Raw data table in case you want the individual points:



Downloads and References
To download crystalCPUID: Crystal Dew World - Software - CrystalCPUID
To download rmclock: RMClock Utility. Products. CPU Rightmark
To download speedfan: SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer
To download TAT: techPowerUp! :: Download Intel Thermal Analysis Tool

To read more about TJunction and for a discussion about other things relating to thermal output fromC2D chips, see: Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide

[Sir Skully]

Yeah ambient room temp also effects H2o cooling. But even more so air cooling.

[graysky]

I don't know much about liquid cooling systems, but are most active or passive? In other words, do most of these systems actively refrigerate the liquid that's circulating or simply passively cool it via surface area (a radiator) and fans?

[Sir Skully]

Originally Posted by graysky

I don't know much about liquid cooling systems, but are most active or passive? In other words, do most of these systems actively refrigerate the liquid that's circulating or simply passively cool it via surface area (a radiator) and fans?

Radiator + fans mostly, but there are the ones that refrigerate the liquid also.

[graysky]

Makes sense then!

[Sir Skully]

Here's pic's of my H2o rig: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/coolin...er-set-up.html

[graysky]

Pretty crazy. I noticed you're using AISuite. Does that allow you to change FSB, multiplier, and vcore on-the-fly without the need to restart?

[Sir Skully]

Originally Posted by graysky

Pretty crazy. I noticed you're using AISuite. Does that allow you to change FSB, multiplier, and vcore on-the-fly without the need to restart?

I just had that up taking a look-see and to show my oc. I do all my oc'ing in the bios.

[graysky]

Yeah, me too... but does the software allow you to do it from the O/S without a reboot?

[Sir Skully]

Originally Posted by graysky

Yeah, me too... but does the software allow you to do it from the O/S without a reboot?

No, the few times I tried it, it would reboot.

[graysky]

Yeah, that's what I thought. What's the point of doing it through a GUI if you have to reboot the machine for the changes to take effect?

[graysky]

Updated 15-May with two higher temp points. It was like 85 °F outside today and I left the A/C off. Room got hot so I ran two additional points at about 76 and 77. Anyway, as you can see, it's all linear up to 77.5 °F and I suspect it'll continue that way if it gets hotter.

[graysky]

Updated 19-May: Fixed a small error and put formulas for both °F and °C (of your room temp) on the graph. The relationship is: for every °F change in room temp, the load TJunction changes by 1-1/2 °C. Well, this is true for my system, YMMV...

[JMerrick]

You mean higher external temps will lead to higher internal temps? What a revelation!

[graysky]

Originally Posted by JMerrick

You mean higher external temps will lead to higher internal temps? What a revelation!

Yeah, but with this data set people can calculate the magnitude of that increase