Phase to dice, 56k beware

Eldonko · 10-10-2005, 12:01 AM

Ok guys, time to go to the next level and add my experiences with dice cooling to the section. My previous three threads are here, h20, chilled h20, and phase:

H20 thread

Chilled H20 thread

Phase thread

I will receive my first dice tube this week and I will have a second in a little while to compare. Lately I went through a few threads of people’s systems dying because of condensation/corrosion, this worried me a bit since I haven’t looked at my CPU pins or anything since the CPU has been frozen. I thought it was time to reinsulate in prep for dice and it’s a good idea to take a look for condensation every few months anyway.

Similar to the other 3 threads, this one will include tons of pics and I will try and show step by step what I did for insulation and installation.

First thing, checking evap contact and for corrosion on the CPU and MB. Evap was making good contact and was centered:

CPU pins all look good, no corrosion at all, the dielectric grease and PC_ICE mounting hardware worked well.

Sierra_abx · 10-10-2005, 12:26 AM

Wow, you were using a lot of grease. I usually clean it off with isopropyl alcohol and a soft toothbrush, then put it somewhere warm to dry. Preferably not an oven.

Eldonko · 10-10-2005, 12:28 AM

A few supplies:

First thing I did was coat the area with liquid electrical tape. This is great stuff, it is much easier to remove than nail polish and works great. This will stop any condensation from getting to the electrical parts of the MB.

The back

Eldonko · 10-10-2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sierra

Wow, you were using a lot of grease. I usually clean it off with isopropyl alcohol and a soft toothbrush, then put it somewhere warm to dry. Preferably not an oven.

The electronics cleaner stuff in the pic above cleans the grease off well. I like a ton of grease in the socket itself, those little pins can corrode and break off very easily.

This is how much I put. I spread it out and squish it down. After that I just wipe off the excess.

CPU installed and excess grease removed.

Sierra_abx · 10-10-2005, 12:32 AM

That's not much grease. It looked like a lot more based on what I saw on the pins.

Eldonko · 10-10-2005, 12:34 AM

Next I add neoprene custom cut to fit around the CPU area and fill in the cracks with liquid tape. It looks shiny here because I took the pic before it dried.

And the back:

Eldonko · 10-10-2005, 12:43 AM

That's about it for today, dice pics to follow as soon as I get the first tube. I discovered Praxis, a place that sells dice and LN2 a few minutes from my house so I will have easy access to the stuff.

Eldonko · 10-21-2005, 03:38 AM

Here are pics of pot #1. An earlier design by MM.

Eldonko · 10-21-2005, 03:40 AM

The container has been used by a few very good benchers as you can see by the wear. Tomorrow I will clean it up and if I can figure out some sorta backplate to use, I will pick up some dice.

sandman55 · 10-21-2005, 07:58 AM

Thanks for the very interesting threads Eldonko I went back and read your other threads too the pic's were great I'm not an overclocker but I still enjoyed the read. I noticed your can of CRC Electronic Cleaner, Ive used CRC gear but I havn't seen that one Ive used THIS Iwonder if its the same product but different labels in different countries its good for cleaning electronics vidio heads and more

JaGWiRE_abx · 10-21-2005, 08:01 AM

Here is one of MM'S new thread about his new container, somewhat relitive to this thread as Eldonko now has one of MM'S containers =)...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=76351
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=77092

Eldonko · 10-21-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman55

Thanks for the very interesting threads Eldonko I went back and read your other threads too the pic's were great I'm not an overclocker but I still enjoyed the read. I noticed your can of CRC Electronic Cleaner, Ive used CRC gear but I havn't seen that one Ive used THIS Iwonder if its the same product but different labels in different countries its good for cleaning electronics vidio heads and more

Thanks Sandman55, I like documenting the stuff I work on, especially when I am doing something for the first time. That way others can pick up any tips or learn from my screw ups heh.

The CRC stuff you posted is probably very similar to what I have, maybe it is a little stronger because it is made for cleaning contacts.

SupDawg · 10-21-2005, 03:30 PM

Nice read, subscribed! Good job

Eldonko · 10-21-2005, 05:13 PM

Cleaned the unit up a bit. Have to go get some finer sandpaper now.

Eldonko · 10-21-2005, 05:22 PM

I am going to pass getting dice today. There is only an hour and a half before closing and I am still trying to figure out this new BH-5 I got. Have to know the RAM well before I am going to be able to get any good dice results. Praxair is open tomorrow until noon though, I will pick up a 15 pound block then. $1.53 per pound canadian, pretty cheap I guess and they will make it into a block, pellets, or whatever I want.

10-10-2005, 12:01 AM	#1
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Phase to dice, 56k beware Ok guys, time to go to the next level and add my experiences with dice cooling to the section. My previous three threads are here, h20, chilled h20, and phase: H20 thread Chilled H20 thread Phase thread I will receive my first dice tube this week and I will have a second in a little while to compare. Lately I went through a few threads of people’s systems dying because of condensation/corrosion, this worried me a bit since I haven’t looked at my CPU pins or anything since the CPU has been frozen. I thought it was time to reinsulate in prep for dice and it’s a good idea to take a look for condensation every few months anyway. Similar to the other 3 threads, this one will include tons of pics and I will try and show step by step what I did for insulation and installation. First thing, checking evap contact and for corrosion on the CPU and MB. Evap was making good contact and was centered: CPU pins all look good, no corrosion at all, the dielectric grease and PC_ICE mounting hardware worked well. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-10-2005, 12:26 AM	#2
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Wow, you were using a lot of grease. I usually clean it off with isopropyl alcohol and a soft toothbrush, then put it somewhere warm to dry. Preferably not an oven.
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10-10-2005, 12:28 AM	#3
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	A few supplies: First thing I did was coat the area with liquid electrical tape. This is great stuff, it is much easier to remove than nail polish and works great. This will stop any condensation from getting to the electrical parts of the MB. The back __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-10-2005, 12:32 AM	#5
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	That's not much grease. It looked like a lot more based on what I saw on the pins.
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10-10-2005, 12:34 AM	#6
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Next I add neoprene custom cut to fit around the CPU area and fill in the cracks with liquid tape. It looks shiny here because I took the pic before it dried. And the back: __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-10-2005, 12:43 AM	#7
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	That's about it for today, dice pics to follow as soon as I get the first tube. I discovered Praxis, a place that sells dice and LN2 a few minutes from my house so I will have easy access to the stuff. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-21-2005, 03:38 AM	#8
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Here are pics of pot #1. An earlier design by MM. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support. Last edited by Eldonko : 10-21-2005 at 03:46 AM.
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10-21-2005, 03:40 AM	#9
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	The container has been used by a few very good benchers as you can see by the wear. Tomorrow I will clean it up and if I can figure out some sorta backplate to use, I will pick up some dice. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-21-2005, 07:58 AM	#10
sandman55 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,016	Thanks for the very interesting threads Eldonko I went back and read your other threads too the pic's were great I'm not an overclocker but I still enjoyed the read. I noticed your can of CRC Electronic Cleaner, Ive used CRC gear but I havn't seen that one Ive used THIS Iwonder if its the same product but different labels in different countries its good for cleaning electronics vidio heads and more __________________
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10-21-2005, 08:01 AM	#11
JaGWiRE_abx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,912	Here is one of MM'S new thread about his new container, somewhat relitive to this thread as Eldonko now has one of MM'S containers =)... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=76351 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=77092 __________________ DFI LAN PARTY UT NF4, Amd Athlon 3200+ 64 VENICE @ 2.5 ghz (250x4/x10), 1 GB (512x2 in dual channel, 150 divider) OCZ Premier 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.5-3-3-8, Sapphire Raedon X800XL, Zalman 7700-alcu, OCZ MODSTREAM 450W, Thermaltake Tsunami Silver w/ Window, 1x 250GB WD Sata150 HD, 1x Lite-on DVD-R/RW 1x Pioneer DVD-R/RW, Bios 6-18, Windows XP
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10-21-2005, 03:30 PM	#13
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10-21-2005, 05:13 PM	#14
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Cleaned the unit up a bit. Have to go get some finer sandpaper now. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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10-21-2005, 05:22 PM	#15
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	I am going to pass getting dice today. There is only an hour and a half before closing and I am still trying to figure out this new BH-5 I got. Have to know the RAM well before I am going to be able to get any good dice results. Praxair is open tomorrow until noon though, I will pick up a 15 pound block then. $1.53 per pound canadian, pretty cheap I guess and they will make it into a block, pellets, or whatever I want. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support. Last edited by Eldonko : 10-21-2005 at 09:48 PM.
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