AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009

SRTDodge05 · 10-18-2007, 06:41 AM

MARK OSBORNE at Fabtech listened to a conference call from semiconductor kit supplier ASML and infers from it that AMD may not be able to start building 45 nanometre chips until 2009.
He bases that on comments from an ASML exec who said that it's likely NAND will be the first to move to the 45 nano geometry.
Then follows DRAM, and ASML thinks that logic will be 12 to 18 months behind - meaning, he speculates, that AMD would be well behind Intel.

AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 - The INQUIRER

Kedas · 10-19-2007, 08:58 AM

AMD reacted to this and said they are still on track to release the first 45nm CPU's mid 2008.

**k0NG0** · 10-19-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kedas

AMD reacted to this and said they are still on track to release the first 45nm CPU's mid 2008.

Which probably means exactly nothing.

Kedas · 10-19-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by k0NG0

Which probably means exactly nothing.

Right, but you aren't 100% sure anymore that they won't be ready mid 2008.

**k0NG0** · 10-19-2007, 04:47 PM

When AMD's concerned I'm sure of nothing these days.

I just mean that a denial from AMD would come even if their factory was on fire and the world had suddenly collectively forgotten how to build semiconductors.

bajo · 10-20-2007, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by k0NG0

When AMD's concerned I'm sure of nothing these days.

I just mean that a denial from AMD would come even if their factory was on fire and the world had suddenly collectively forgotten how to build semiconductors.

hmmm.. maybe they've all been collectively obducted, brainwashed, & then released, by aliens, recently...?

**Sandog** · 10-23-2007, 12:31 PM

I think AMD needs to get even with the die shrinks with Intel to stay competitve. Hopefully they can do it but they will need some High-K gate partions like Intel to go lower I believe. Also they need to start splicing cores like Intel to save time and money especially if they don't have virtual core tech like Intel to make a quad an octo core CPU.

Kedas · 10-23-2007, 04:01 PM

AMD repeated again that they are on track for 45nm. (the source could be the same so that it's not repeating)
He is talking about the first half of 2008 (not mid 2008)

And the 2.5Ghz Barcelona is for within a month.

Many products will be released within a month from now.

from:
AMD Third Quarter Earnings Call - Earnings calls

**k0NG0** · 10-23-2007, 04:43 PM

I sincerely hope so. They need to be on 45nm before Nehalem drops. Otherwise it'll be tough.

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SRTDodge05 Grab Life By The Balls Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,835	AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 MARK OSBORNE at Fabtech listened to a conference call from semiconductor kit supplier ASML and infers from it that AMD may not be able to start building 45 nanometre chips until 2009. He bases that on comments from an ASML exec who said that it's likely NAND will be the first to move to the 45 nano geometry. Then follows DRAM, and ASML thinks that logic will be 12 to 18 months behind - meaning, he speculates, that AMD would be well behind Intel. AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 - The INQUIRER
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Kedas Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 645	Re: AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 AMD reacted to this and said they are still on track to release the first 45nm CPU's mid 2008. __________________ In the period that Einstein was active as a professor, one of his students came to him and said: "The questions of this year's exam are the same as last years!?" "True," Einstein said, "but this year all answers are different."[Albert Einstein]
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k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,750	Re: AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 When AMD's concerned I'm sure of nothing these days. I just mean that a denial from AMD would come even if their factory was on fire and the world had suddenly collectively forgotten how to build semiconductors. __________________ Use Firefox - "the one that blocks all the schmutz" Feeling multicore elation? Remember this correlation: Amdahl's Law.
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Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 I think AMD needs to get even with the die shrinks with Intel to stay competitve. Hopefully they can do it but they will need some High-K gate partions like Intel to go lower I believe. Also they need to start splicing cores like Intel to save time and money especially if they don't have virtual core tech like Intel to make a quad an octo core CPU.
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Kedas Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 645	Re: AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 AMD repeated again that they are on track for 45nm. (the source could be the same so that it's not repeating) He is talking about the first half of 2008 (not mid 2008) And the 2.5Ghz Barcelona is for within a month. Many products will be released within a month from now. from: AMD Third Quarter Earnings Call - Earnings calls __________________ In the period that Einstein was active as a professor, one of his students came to him and said: "The questions of this year's exam are the same as last years!?" "True," Einstein said, "but this year all answers are different."[Albert Einstein] Last edited by Kedas; 10-23-2007 at 04:15 PM..
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k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,750	Re: AMD may hit 45 nanometres in 2009 I sincerely hope so. They need to be on 45nm before Nehalem drops. Otherwise it'll be tough. __________________ Use Firefox - "the one that blocks all the schmutz" Feeling multicore elation? Remember this correlation: Amdahl's Law.
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