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[JimTram]

Some sort of Gov't oversight prior to the fact would help. Greed is a human condition that cannot be left unchecked.

[TQ]

While I agree with the sentiment of that, who's watching the government?

[JimTram]

I guess it would be us - the people!

[TQ]

Heck, the people are too busy watching American Idol or whatever to pay attention to complicated stuff like stock markets.
I mean don't we, like, have social security to retire on?

[JimTram]

Well, I guess we have "Bill O'Reilly" if all else fails.

[Deer Slayer]

Originally Posted by 3 of 7

A good practical alternative just might be companies that actually create profits and use those profits to grow.

While the stock market may have started out as a good idea, it's become a vehicle for investors to borrow huge amounts of cash to do unscrupulous things with..As long as there is a quick buck in it for the shareholders that's A-OK with them.

If we applied the same mentality to mortgages, as soon as you had any equity in your house, the bank would take it.

That's what banks do, if they can!!!

[JimTram]

How true, how very true. And to boot - some are helped by our wonderful elected officials - the scumbags!!!

Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

That's what banks do, if they can!!!

[3 of 7]

Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

That's what banks do, if they can!!!

If your payments are made and you're in good standing, there's not a chance in hell the bank could take your home....
Not the case with a company that thought they were raising capital by going public, when in fact all they were doing was ensuring that their company would have a short lifespan, if it's profitable that is.

Too bad folks can't see there is supposed to be a difference between business and war

[TQ]

Originally Posted by JimTram

Well, I guess we have "Bill O'Reilly" if all else fails.

That's not a bad fall back plan. He's one of the handful incorruptible reporters. I don't always agree with his opinions but he's honest and double checks his sources. An old school journalist.

[k0NG0]

Originally Posted by TQ

That's not a bad fall back plan. He's one of the handful incorruptible reporters. I don't always agree with his opinions but he's honest and double checks his sources. An old school journalist.

Except I happened to see Olbermann uncover an instance where O'Reilly was wrong about well-documented historical events on several occasions, with ample time to double-check between them (and it's not like you can fudge tapes of O'Reilly actually being wrong and get away with it). Had to do with a massacre that happened during WWII if I remember correctly. A guy who can't admit he's made a mistake and own up to it is a horrible person to use as a fall back.

(No, I don't expect anyone to be perfect, but I expect someone who's clearly utterly wrong about documented history to admit to being so.)

[TQ]

I have personally seen O'Reilly admit to mistakes in the past so it's not like he can't or doesn't admit to them.
Now I just watched what I believe is the Olbermann piece you're referring to on You Tube. An interesting bit of WWII history I was unaware of. I'd like to have seen General Clarke's response to O'Reilly's assertion but that was missing from Olbermann's piece.

I have also seen O'Reilly (on countless occasions) take something someone has said about him (generally in op-ed pieces) or stated that he said and demonstrate with video tape how what he was accused of saying was blatantly untrue.
I didn't see O'Reilly's response to the Olbermann piece and would have liked to have done so, but I don't know if he did indeed respond.

It's well known that Olbermann despises O'Reilly and Fox News and that he's somewhat obsessed with trouncing O'Reilly. (What? He found two mistakes in eight months of nightly broadcasts?)
And for anyone to believe that NBC/MSNBC is unbiased (as opposed to Fox being anything but fair and balanced) is absurd. NBC is as consistently left as the New York Times and in no way can be relied upon for "fair and balanced" reporting. They are as guilty of what they accuse Fox of being but the left never consider themselves being anything other than right, uh, I mean "correct".

As far as O'Reilly's response to his viewer (he did produce a letter on his show from a viewer that attempted to present the information the Olbermann did) I will research that for myself to see what I can find, but I'll tell you this: gunning down POW's who surrendered because an army on the move didn't have the facilities in place to secure them isn't something I have difficulty in imagining any army doing.
A similar situation was presented in the HBO WWII drama "Band of Brothers" and it was the American army who did it.
"Band of Brothers" was, in large part, based in history.

[k0NG0]

I'm just saying he should fess up and admit he was wrong. Such an admission is seen as a weakness only by weak people. If he's reneged already, good for him, it would make me respect him a bit more.

As much of a gas bag Olbermann is for one side, O'Reilly is for the other. I don't expect those two gentlemen to agree on what to have for dinner if they were chained together and had a choice of bread or nothing else. They're like an electron and a positron.

Though I know Olbermann is a huge Arrested Development fan, which means he's not all bad. Anyone who ends a long rant about how they should make an AD movie with Gob's classic "C'mon!!!" has a sense of humor.

[JimTram]

Say all you want - it's O'Reilly that stepped up to the plate to help restore the much coveted "GI Bill" benefits for our military. The public and politicians could not care less.

He's got a few issues - not unlike the rest of us.

[JimTram]

I believe due to his popularity throughout the US and the World - he has to be relatively honest as he has much too loose. I would trust what he say's before what our illustrious politicians have to say.

Sad we're in this pickle!!!

Originally Posted by TQ

That's not a bad fall back plan. He's one of the handful incorruptible reporters. I don't always agree with his opinions but he's honest and double checks his sources. An old school journalist.

[k0NG0]

Bill O'Reilly is most likely almost completely unknown outside the US. I expect the people who know about Dr. Phil outnumber him 1000:1 or more. I'd say most non-US residents who watch Fox News do it for the same reason they'd have read Pravda back in the day. Very few of those who know of it buy the whole "fair and unbalanced" shtick.

Not to mention how history tells us that popularity has no correlation to honesty whatsoever, regardless of vocation. Doesn't matter how much one has to lose. O'Reilly is no different.