Sony jacks up the price of Blu-ray

[sammy2066]

Right now, the market is not in it's long run equilibrium. As more firms enter the market, the economic profits in the industry will be driven to zero. This will ensure optimum consumer surplus, highest competition and lowest prices. I'd give this another 6 -8 months.

[jrefronc]

That article cracks me up with its "seems to be" and "appears to have" crap!

As for The Inquirer's claim that Sony was gouging with its pricing of PS3 as some sort of precedent, Sony has taken BILLIONS in losses on the sale of PS3 simply to advance the acceptance of their technology. They literally lose money on every unit -even to this day.

I can't help thinking this is simply an initial supply and demand surge fuled in the short term by headlines.

On the fun side, the Inquirer is always good for a black-helicopter-conspiracy laugh. They simultaneously hate "The Vole" while despising the competition. Blu Ray has always been the superior format, and even though I was wrong before in thinking HD-DVD was only capable of 720p, to this day multiple HD-DVD players are still for sale at 720p output max. Any wonder why there might be other people out there who look at weekly ads and think the same thing?

Betamax revenge is sweet for Sony -for now,

[Ford Freak]

Originally Posted by jrefronc

Blu Ray has always been the superior format, and even though I was wrong before in thinking HD-DVD was only capable of 720p, to this day multiple HD-DVD players are still for sale at 720p output max.

How has BR always been superior? It may with superior for movie companies because of it's encryption. Better encryption doesn't mean crap though because it will still get cracked.


P.S. - Show me an HD-DVD player that doesn't do 1080i or 1080p and I'll show you a flying cow that talks.

[k0NG0]

Blu-ray has more storage per layer. That's the single advantage (for customers; BD+ and region coding is the advantage from the studios' points of view). That's it. Sony is about as evil as Microsoft these days, but MS never was a driving force behind HD-DVD, the parts they added to the mix actually makes HD-DVD a better format (it's easier to produce interactive content).

It's all moot. Blu-ray is what's the HD format. That's too bad for consumers, but it was never up to the consumer anyway.

[jrefronc]

Here's one that only does 1080i and 720p. not 1080p.
Newegg.com - TOSHIBA HD DVD Player HD-A3 - Retail

Now about that flying cow...

[k0NG0]

Originally Posted by jrefronc

Here's one that only does 1080i and 720p. not 1080p.
Newegg.com - TOSHIBA HD DVD Player HD-A3 - Retail

Now about that flying cow...

If it does 1080i then no cow for you as per the offer. Please find one that only does 720p. I want to see the cow!

[jrefronc]

1080i is to 1080p what 480i SD is to 480p ED. HUGE difference in vidoe quality, which is what this is all about, right? Every Blu-ray from the start produced 1080p.

[k0NG0]

Originally Posted by jrefronc

1080i is to 1080p what 480i SD is to 480p ED. HUGE difference in vidoe quality, which is what this is all about, right? Every Blu-ray from the start produced 1080p.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the format itself. Both were 1080p capable, thus equal in that respect.

[fvbounty]

Originally Posted by jrefronc

1080i is to 1080p what 480i SD is to 480p ED. HUGE difference in vidoe quality, which is what this is all about, right? Every Blu-ray from the start produced 1080p.

Can blu-ray connect to the internet, or PIP, no not yet, this fall. HD DVD did all along, its to bad that we don't have have a choice anymore!

[Mankal3]

Did someone say flying cow?

[jrefronc]

Less choice is worse, No doubt. But back to the topic at hand: The Inquirer article is a joke. The whole point of the article was that Sony was "gouging again," but they have no proof of gouging. The example about the PS3 was false, and none of the players they cited were even made by Sony... Is Sony evil? Maybe. Can they be blamed for playing hard ball in the format war? I think not.

[jrefronc]

That is so awesome!

[FightingChance]

I wondered when someone would call out this article as fud. This forum seems enjoy re-affirming their biases though.

[zsaz1029]

Originally Posted by fvbounty

Can blu-ray connect to the internet, or PIP, no not yet, this fall. HD DVD did all along, its to bad that we don't have have a choice anymore!

Personally, I don't care about either of those features.

[Double Density]

Originally Posted by fvbounty

Can blu-ray connect to the internet, or PIP, no not yet, this fall. HD DVD did all along, its to bad that we don't have have a choice anymore!

Uh, many of us buy movies to, you know, watch the movie...not play with it. Why would we want to connect to the internet? To buy Evan Almighty ringtones or look at Optimus Prime's schematics? Not me. Blu-ray 1.1 spec is live now, so PIP is available on several machines, and there are a few discs with it already....Resident Evil Extinction and Sunshine to name a couple. Although, yet again, I have no need for it. The only movie on HD I tried the PiP on was Batman Begins, and ended turning it off before the opera scene in the movie...found it way too annoying. Although admittedly, this is something that the studios really believe is going to drive adoption of the format.

As far as price, seems pretty much the same to me. Certainly cheaper than last year at this time. HD-DVD has spoiled the market with it's bargain basement pricing ( just bought 2 more machines myself for a total of 4). Expecting Blu-ray to do the same is misguided.

As an aside, Fox is lowering the price of their catalog titles by $10. Machine prices are negligible compared to the price of the software to play in it for a serious movie collector.