Warning To All 9700 Owners!!!

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 06:07 PM

Hi

Just a little warning if like me you want to replace the thermal pad on the sink on your new ATI 9700 pro.The gpu has a ring around it kind of like a shim you put on an Athlon, the thing is the ring is higher than the cpu so you:-

WILL NOT GET GOOD CONTACT ON THE CORE

Be careful...you need to mod the standard sink or mod another one so that the original can be replaced for RMA if needed.

This is very important as the card will not run 3d at stock due to heat and you may damage your windows install and your new card.

JoeFrat · 09-05-2002, 06:23 PM

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This is very important as the card will not run 3d at stock due to heat and you may damage your windows install and your new card.

What exactly does that mean? Are you saying after thermal goop is applied or before?

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 06:37 PM

the standard pad is the pink stuff you find on heatinks when you first buy them..I decided I wanted to replace this with ASII but the ring around the core is higher than the core its self so the sink does not touch the core...it is raised by a few thou

SupDawg · 09-05-2002, 06:49 PM

Bigtoe, I admire your courage to mod a 400$ vid card, but thats the price that you pay when you make a "new discovery" .

Sorry for the bad luck !!!

***Ozzie*** · 09-05-2002, 06:56 PM

He isn't going to mod the card and void the warranty...once he discovered that the stock cooling is failing he decided to make his own heatsink for it to get better contact...

Others will be having this problem too - now they may have some advanced warning so they don't burn up their cards...

I could see this easliy turning into a batch of RMA's...

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 07:06 PM

I first noticed something was odd when i couldn't clock the core any higher than 340, as on the Annand review of the gigabyte version they had it upto 400 no problem.I touched the back of the card and it was very hot so I decided to try to improve the stock cooling by applying AS2 and replacing the 5 ish cfm standard fan with a 60mm ystech.Thing is the sink does not even touch the core.I did try the card with the AS2 and fan but it would crash out of 3d so I decided to Investigate further and so I posted a warning.

swannema · 09-05-2002, 07:13 PM

Thanks for the heads-up bigtoe.

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 07:22 PM

I am modding a celly sink to fit..not to hard and should be far better than the ATI one.I will run a 26cfm fan on it which should keep it nice and cool.

JoeFrat · 09-05-2002, 07:25 PM

That's what I was wondering about. So it would seem that there could be a batch of these with an improperly mounted hs...

I am about to order one of these, thanks bigtoe

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 07:28 PM

It is not a fault but more of a "problem"...the standard sink has one of these thick pink pads on it so some contact is there...just not as good as it should be.

JoeFrat · 09-05-2002, 07:52 PM

My GF3 is exactly like that, I just never got around to messing with it because I don't overclock much.

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 07:56 PM

With the guys at Annand doing so well I thought 380 on the core would be easy..but with the very poor stock cooling it was hard to run 340 which is only 15mhz over default.Also the back of the card was very hot...a lot hotter than I thought it should be.

ZenmasteR · 09-05-2002, 07:58 PM

can this "ring " or "shim" be removed then?

or is it actually part of the bloody core

bigtoe · 09-05-2002, 08:04 PM

It is only glued on but to remove it may damage the Gpu.Without the ring there would be no problem but I can see why they have fitted it as it does protect the core just like a shim does on an Athlon...the only problem is it is a few thous to thick.

Sir_JaKoNT|L · 09-05-2002, 09:56 PM

bigtoe, are u saying that this card is apparently defective from the factory that it may burn down?? because something is higher that the other?

sorry man, but it really concerns me as i am looking forward to this card

09-05-2002, 06:07 PM	#1
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	Warning To All 9700 Owners!!! Hi Just a little warning if like me you want to replace the thermal pad on the sink on your new ATI 9700 pro.The gpu has a ring around it kind of like a shim you put on an Athlon, the thing is the ring is higher than the cpu so you:- WILL NOT GET GOOD CONTACT ON THE CORE Be careful...you need to mod the standard sink or mod another one so that the original can be replaced for RMA if needed. This is very important as the card will not run 3d at stock due to heat and you may damage your windows install and your new card.
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09-05-2002, 06:37 PM	#3
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	the standard pad is the pink stuff you find on heatinks when you first buy them..I decided I wanted to replace this with ASII but the ring around the core is higher than the core its self so the sink does not touch the core...it is raised by a few thou
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09-05-2002, 06:49 PM	#4
SupDawg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,090	Bigtoe, I admire your courage to mod a 400$ vid card, but thats the price that you pay when you make a "new discovery" . Sorry for the bad luck !!! __________________ The views expressed in this electronic dialogue are mine alone. "All physics are belong to me. " Kongo
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09-05-2002, 06:56 PM	#5
*Ozzie* CRS Designee Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,510	He isn't going to mod the card and void the warranty...once he discovered that the stock cooling is failing he decided to make his own heatsink for it to get better contact... Others will be having this problem too - now they may have some advanced warning so they don't burn up their cards... I could see this easliy turning into a batch of RMA's... __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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09-05-2002, 07:06 PM	#6
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	I first noticed something was odd when i couldn't clock the core any higher than 340, as on the Annand review of the gigabyte version they had it upto 400 no problem.I touched the back of the card and it was very hot so I decided to try to improve the stock cooling by applying AS2 and replacing the 5 ish cfm standard fan with a 60mm ystech.Thing is the sink does not even touch the core.I did try the card with the AS2 and fan but it would crash out of 3d so I decided to Investigate further and so I posted a warning. Last edited by bigtoe; 09-05-2002 at 07:53 PM..
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09-05-2002, 07:13 PM	#7
swannema ???????????????? Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 9,630	Thanks for the heads-up bigtoe.
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09-05-2002, 07:22 PM	#8
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	I am modding a celly sink to fit..not to hard and should be far better than the ATI one.I will run a 26cfm fan on it which should keep it nice and cool.
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09-05-2002, 07:25 PM	#9
JoeFrat Registered Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850	That's what I was wondering about. So it would seem that there could be a batch of these with an improperly mounted hs... I am about to order one of these, thanks bigtoe
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09-05-2002, 07:28 PM	#10
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	It is not a fault but more of a "problem"...the standard sink has one of these thick pink pads on it so some contact is there...just not as good as it should be.
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09-05-2002, 07:52 PM	#11
JoeFrat Registered Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850	My GF3 is exactly like that, I just never got around to messing with it because I don't overclock much.
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09-05-2002, 07:56 PM	#12
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	With the guys at Annand doing so well I thought 380 on the core would be easy..but with the very poor stock cooling it was hard to run 340 which is only 15mhz over default.Also the back of the card was very hot...a lot hotter than I thought it should be.
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09-05-2002, 07:58 PM	#13
ZenmasteR ABXZONE EXPERT Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Posts: 316	can this "ring " or "shim" be removed then? or is it actually part of the bloody core
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09-05-2002, 08:04 PM	#14
bigtoe here to help Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,448	It is only glued on but to remove it may damage the Gpu.Without the ring there would be no problem but I can see why they have fitted it as it does protect the core just like a shim does on an Athlon...the only problem is it is a few thous to thick.
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09-05-2002, 09:56 PM	#15
Sir_JaKoNT\|L an ASUSBoard fanatic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore, Sydney, Jakarta Posts: 4,581	bigtoe, are u saying that this card is apparently defective from the factory that it may burn down?? because something is higher that the other? sorry man, but it really concerns me as i am looking forward to this card __________________ running rig AMD ATHLON X2 4000+ AM2 Gigabyte GA-M61SME- SL2 2 x V-Gen DDR2 1GB RAM PC5300 WDC 160GB SATA2 8MB Sony DVD R/W 20x Enlight EN 4150 casing Enlight True Power 420Watt PSU Stick together team... HTC Tytn II is the way!!!
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