AMD vs INTEL, Is the Battle Over, or Just Beginning? - Page 3

Eldonko · 07-20-2006, 12:10 PM

Shares took a big hit today, seems Intel may not be doing as well as everyone may think.

Quote:

Intel net drops 57% in 2d quarter

July 20, 2006

Intel Corp. reported its biggest profit drop in more than four years and said it is unlikely to meet its full-year forecast after losing sales to Advanced Micro Devices Inc.

The world's largest semiconductor maker said second-quarter net income fell 57 percent to $885 million, or 15 cents a share, from $2.04 billion, or 33 cents, a year earlier. Sales dropped 13 percent to $8 billion, the bottom of Intel's forecast, the Santa Clara, Calif., company said.

Analysts expected Intel to turn a profit of 14 cents per share.

Market share gains by AMD, the number two maker of processors for personal computers, prompted Intel chief executive Paul Otellini to speed the introduction of products and slash prices. The anticipation of discounts starting this month led customers to delay purchases.

Intel forecast third-quarter sales will fall to between $8.3 billion and $8.9 billion, below an average estimate of $9.04 billion in a Thomson Financial survey of 27 analysts. (Bloomberg)

Dan-Baer · 07-21-2006, 05:54 PM

I was about to build an AMD system. My present rig still does all I need but I have reached the end of its upgrade path, and my Wife needs a new rig (my present one

). When I saw the preliminary Core 2 Duo results I decided to wait. I am going to build a Core 2 Duo rig as soon as the MOBO situation settles down a little. I want to see if Asus will anounce a new board in the next month.
AMD will not die, they will fight back but I think they will strugle for a few years and in the mean time it looks like Intel has learned a valuable lesson, one that will benefit not only them but many of us.

tamarelle · 07-21-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Shares took a big hit today, seems Intel may not be doing as well as everyone may think.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the Conroe Eldonko. Methinks the AMD fanbois are clutching at straws a bit lately.

Arutha_abx · 08-03-2006, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bofinn

I don't think there will ever be a "war" winner. AMD will eventually be equal - just like the Coke VS Pepsi war. I always ask for a Coke, and if the waitress says "Is Pepsi ok?" I say yes.

Great Anaology there. I totally agree with you. Though I often ask for Mt. Dew.

Seriously though as long as there are atleast 2 makers then we shall benefit the most. Each will be pushing the limits further and further.

DrunkenFists · 08-12-2006, 04:15 PM

hmm rather than thinking of buying try patience hold it a little whilesome one else will jump into this competition.neways holding it off pays it in the future!

MrSeanKon · 08-31-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDawg

I am not a fanboy

Me too I am not a partizan.

If AMD close then Intel will sell CPUs for rich people...
Remember some years ago when AMD was a small company.......
Intel's 486 prices?

azproc · 09-07-2006, 10:25 PM

Same here, I just go for whatever performance / needs I can get.

When I got my P4 2.4C, I didn't like the AMD Athlon XP line... couldn't care much less. After the advent of the Athlon 64s, I thought twice before recommending someone an Intel rig. Sure enough I had about 6 or 7 AMD rigs I made for people. I elected that my next build would be an AMD for sure.

But now, Conroe has stole the glamour of the past few years of the amazing Athlon 64 line, so instead, I sold my old PIII 1GHz (CUSL2-C, anyone? oh the memories:P ), and took the resulting funds to get myself a Conroe system and E6400 to play with... not a bad upgrade/replacement at all for about $300 extra for the parts I needed.

Anyways, I hope to see an AMD system in my household (for once!) in the future.

MrSeanKon · 09-11-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by azproc

Anyways, I hope to see an AMD system in my household (for once!) in the future.

Welcome to teravolts side

ToronadoXP · 09-11-2006, 01:28 PM

I just build when i feel its the best time to upgrade. I sold my previous intel stuff for decent cash and upgraded for a little extra. My 2.8 toledo still is snappy and quick and cool as i want it to be. Depends whos on top at the time to decide who ill go with in the future.

Smurfer · 09-12-2006, 12:05 AM

All I see is better hardware & cheaper prices competition is good in this arena as long as they keep chopping prices. It could only get better so now I'm running OS X, Linux, XP & Vista on Intel AMD & Apple it's all good man no worries.

Jorrell · 10-04-2006, 10:58 PM

With AMD supposedly calling one of their upcoming K8L breeds "altair" one of the choices in this poll just got a bit more relevant.

(I'd be surprised if they got as high as an AMD "Altair" 8800 though...)

Joe Public · 02-13-2007, 09:38 AM

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Old thread sorry...

**Sandog** · 02-13-2007, 11:54 AM

This topic is always relevant. A lot has changed in the last 6mos because of Intel's progress and AMD's acquisition of ATI. Now AMD is forced to make major headway with K8L. I hope they do but I prefer K8L to fall between CD2 and Penryn families in performance.

Sandog

INVALiD · 07-20-2008, 04:48 AM

I never did care for amd,
stability is more important than price, ...or the whinny drizzel about underdog vs big nasty company.

View Poll Results: AMD vs INTEL, Is the Battle Over, or Just Beginning?
I think it is perfectly reasonable to sell my FX-62 system and get a Conroe EE 2.93 based system.	11	6.11%
AMD will come back soon and give CORE a run for the money.	39	21.67%
I will NEVER buy an Intel based system.	3	1.67%
I will NEVER buy an AMD based system.	27	15.00%
Long live the Altair 8800.	2	1.11%
FLAH!!!....I'm gettin a MAC!	5	2.78%
I buy strictly based on my needs, be it budget, performance, or other practical needs.	97	53.89%
I absolutely have to own the fastest PC possible at all times with all the latest hardware inside.	23	12.78%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 180. You may not vote on this poll

07-21-2006, 05:54 PM	#32
Dan-Baer Ancient Teckie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California on the Beach Posts: 875	I was about to build an AMD system. My present rig still does all I need but I have reached the end of its upgrade path, and my Wife needs a new rig (my present one ). When I saw the preliminary Core 2 Duo results I decided to wait. I am going to build a Core 2 Duo rig as soon as the MOBO situation settles down a little. I want to see if Asus will anounce a new board in the next month. AMD will not die, they will fight back but I think they will strugle for a few years and in the mean time it looks like Intel has learned a valuable lesson, one that will benefit not only them but many of us. __________________ 2006 Rig; Asus Commando, QX6700 @ 2.93, 4 Gb Corsair (PC2-8500 Dominator), Zalman 7500, Corsair 1 KW PSU, BFG GTX 285 OC, 2 Raptors in RAID 0 (OS and Apps) 2 Raptors in non raid for files and client data. WD 7500AAKS for main storage, X-Fi Fatal1ty, Normal optical drives Etc. 2 Ea Samsung 24" 245t's New test rig, Spring of 09, i7-920 OC (3.6 so far) Rampage II Extreme, 6 GB Corsair Dominator GT , BFG GTX 2285 OCE, PSU HX 1000W 1 KW Corsair, 2 EA WD 300GB V Raptors in RAID-0 boot, 1 Tb WD RE3 data and BU. Tt Armor+ case, Optical drives Etc. Thanks to everyone here for all the help
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08-12-2006, 04:15 PM	#35
DrunkenFists Bring ,em on Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 806	hmm rather than thinking of buying try patience hold it a little whilesome one else will jump into this competition.neways holding it off pays it in the future! __________________ Cause vodka gives u more than just wings
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09-07-2006, 10:25 PM	#37
azproc MD of Technology Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 604	Same here, I just go for whatever performance / needs I can get. When I got my P4 2.4C, I didn't like the AMD Athlon XP line... couldn't care much less. After the advent of the Athlon 64s, I thought twice before recommending someone an Intel rig. Sure enough I had about 6 or 7 AMD rigs I made for people. I elected that my next build would be an AMD for sure. But now, Conroe has stole the glamour of the past few years of the amazing Athlon 64 line, so instead, I sold my old PIII 1GHz (CUSL2-C, anyone? oh the memories:P ), and took the resulting funds to get myself a Conroe system and E6400 to play with... not a bad upgrade/replacement at all for about $300 extra for the parts I needed. Anyways, I hope to see an AMD system in my household (for once!) in the future. __________________ Azproc ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - 1101 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 - 2x512MB OCZ PC2-5400 Gold XTC 4-4-4-12 - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - soon to be replaced ASUS EN5750 128MB - Thermaltake TR2 430W - 17 Samsung 710N - XP Pro SP2 Gigabyte GA-8KNXP - F12 - Intel P4 2.4C HT @ 2.88GHz, 240MHz Clock using 5/4 - 2X512MB OCZ Plat. 3200 Dual running 2/3/2/5 - SB LIVE 5.1 - Seagate SATA 120GB - former ATI (BBA) X850XT @ 554/591 - now XFX 7800GS Xtreme @ 460/1350 Thermaltake 480W FC - 20.1 Viewsonic VX2025WM LCD - XP Pro SP2 - 3DMARK 03/05/05 = 11708/5739/5860 Last edited by azproc; 09-07-2006 at 10:33 PM..
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09-11-2006, 01:28 PM	#39
ToronadoXP Blade Runner Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 341	I just build when i feel its the best time to upgrade. I sold my previous intel stuff for decent cash and upgraded for a little extra. My 2.8 toledo still is snappy and quick and cool as i want it to be. Depends whos on top at the time to decide who ill go with in the future. __________________
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09-12-2006, 12:05 AM	#40
Smurfer Land of the Brave Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: W. Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,854	All I see is better hardware & cheaper prices competition is good in this arena as long as they keep chopping prices. It could only get better so now I'm running OS X, Linux, XP & Vista on Intel AMD & Apple it's all good man no worries.
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10-04-2006, 10:58 PM	#41
Jorrell .... Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 715	With AMD supposedly calling one of their upcoming K8L breeds "altair" one of the choices in this poll just got a bit more relevant. (I'd be surprised if they got as high as an AMD "Altair" 8800 though...) __________________
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02-13-2007, 09:38 AM	#42
Joe Public Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,932	<deleted> Old thread sorry...
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02-13-2007, 11:54 AM	#43
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	This topic is always relevant. A lot has changed in the last 6mos because of Intel's progress and AMD's acquisition of ATI. Now AMD is forced to make major headway with K8L. I hope they do but I prefer K8L to fall between CD2 and Penryn families in performance. Sandog
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07-20-2008, 04:48 AM	#44
INVALiD Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 65	Re: AMD vs INTEL, Is the Battle Over, or Just Beginning? I never did care for amd, stability is more important than price, ...or the whinny drizzel about underdog vs big nasty company.
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