Asus A8V - Page 163

leeghoofd · 05-28-2005, 01:25 PM

Well Wazman if I were you I would downgrade my bios to 1009 version which is really rocking according other users. I sadly didn't have a choice, I bought this mobo flashed with 1011 to support my San Diego Core CPU. I cannot test it with a lower version bios. For the ram settings put them on manual set them up accordingly
Cas latency 3
Ras to Cas 3
Ras precharge 3
Active precharge delay 8
also set the voltage of the ram to 2.7 volts.

Keep us posted

For my problem I have no clue why I don't have more memory performance, I had a 3500 NC core on an Abit AV8 and it scored way better in the memory department than my current rig. With the 1013 bios I saw a good increase in memory performance but the Read performance is way to low to my likings, also in Sisoft sandra their way lower than usual. I will print my bios settings maybe you can compare what is set wrong or not. Thx for the help guys

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magicwad · 05-28-2005, 11:29 PM

Wondering if anyone can verify if the memory dividers are working with the 1013 beta???

leeghoofd · 05-29-2005, 04:51 AM

Update on Bios 1013 beta regarding my poor memory performance. Looking at A64 tweaker and after fiddling around with some settings I lowered Row cycle time ( 13 detected by Bios) to 10 and the Row refresh cycle time ( 24 bios) to 12 and guess what it was way better

here are the old
Read 4843Mb/s
Write 2317MB/s
Latency 46.5ns

here are the new
Read 5538Mb/s
Write 2388MB/s
Latency 45.7ns

gonna do some more testing, these settings were a non boot with the previous 1011 and 1012 beta bios ( even lowering these a few points was a non boot for sure and a Cmos reset was necessary) Once memory speed is up to par I'll test the dividers

Duke · 05-29-2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeghoofd

Update on Bios 1013 beta regarding my poor memory performance. Looking at A64 tweaker and after fiddling around with some settings I lowered Row cycle time ( 13 detected by Bios) to 10 and the Row refresh cycle time ( 24 bios) to 12 and guess what it was way better

....

Interesting observation, leeghoofd. I received a similar recommendation from the OCZ Memory support team to improve my setup (re: Row cycle and Row refresh times). When you get your final numbers, please let us know what your complete memory timings are.

Duke

leeghoofd · 05-29-2005, 04:14 PM

here they are I needed to loose the timings, they survived a few passes of memtest but in SuperPI 16 and 32 I got errors around 7th iteration. Here's a screenie of the detected A64 tweak settings

Everest Home :

Read 5481
Write 2057
Latency 46.5ns

Sisoft Sandra

Bandwith Int Buffered 5912
Bandwith Float buffered 5895

These numbers are at DDR400 speeds no OC yet , hope the numbers will improve with the final release

magicwad · 06-01-2005, 04:52 PM

leeghoofd...are those the timings after you loosened them or are they the ones that gave the superpi errors??

leeghoofd · 06-02-2005, 10:54 AM

These are the loosened ones, difference with the ones with the Pi errors was

Row Cycle time 10
Row refresh Cycle time 12

Better memory performance in Everest home (write test around 2320 )but a no go in SuperPI

I would love to see some other A64 tweaker shots so I can compare the other settings, I really hope I can get near the Abit scores with the final 1013 bios version

leeghoofd · 06-03-2005, 11:57 AM

Tested new Beta bios 1013.007

Improvement in the read 2320 Super PI stable
decrease in write for me 4856 lol this is driving me nuts !!

New bios has other memory timings than the 1013.005 all set to auto in the bios but I verified them with A64 tweaker and the XL ram SPD is better read out and near the settings I had in the previous post of the A64 tweaker.

theman_abx · 06-04-2005, 02:12 PM

im using 1009, and i just noticed a weird problem with the memory dividers. any change in dividers causes a no post. i have to leave it on auto. any ideas why this started happening? it was working fine before.

Lefhark · 06-07-2005, 11:03 AM

Did anyone try the new 1014.001 beta Bios yet? Flashed it and fanspeeds reports are totally messed up. clearing cmos didn't help this time. After doing so the fanspeeds got reported correctly right after i booted up again, but after setting the Bios up and restarting, fanspeeds showed half of the speed the fans were really running at, resulting in a CPU fan error warning.
Did anyone else see this too?

-Lef

theman_abx · 06-07-2005, 01:40 PM

geez, whats with all the bios updates recently? they went from 1012 to 1014 in a month. ***?

Lefhark · 06-07-2005, 02:34 PM

This board is just weird... after resetting cmos a few times more along with switching off the PSU the board suddenly started itself without me pushing the "ON" button (which it normally shouldn't do) and the fanspeed got reported normally again and stayed that way...

Never had as many oddities with my previous boards as with this one here.
My next board won't be an Asus/VIA one, that's for sure.
I think i'll give Jetway/ULI with their A695DAS a try - PCI-E without the need to trash my AGP videocard right away.

leeghoofd · 06-09-2005, 02:32 PM

Absolutely no prob shere, I like the 1014 because memspeeds are up a bit ( thx for that) and it survives SuperPI at tighter timings (set auto by the mobo )

Isn't there soemthing elso wrong with your rig ? Did you have issues before flashing to the latest Beta ?

magicwad · 06-09-2005, 04:30 PM

what about the dividers....any improvement in that area???

Lefhark · 06-10-2005, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeghoofd

Absolutely no prob shere, I like the 1014 because memspeeds are up a bit ( thx for that) and it survives SuperPI at tighter timings (set auto by the mobo )

Isn't there soemthing elso wrong with your rig ? Did you have issues before flashing to the latest Beta ?

The issues started (well, the ones with the wrong fanspeed) when i first flashed the 1013.005 bios. Didn't happen before. But before that, when i first assembled the system i use now, i had an ATI card with which the board refused to boot into windows (Desktop froze) if i didn't enable AGP 3.0 calibration cycle. Also the 3d benchmarks with the ATI card and the A8V Dlx were much lower (like 3000pts in 3d-mk03) than with the same videocard and the Abit NF7 i used before.
Those issues went away when i installed the Nvidia 6600gt AGP i use still.

I think its safe to say that the VIA AGP solution for this chipset is far from optimal.
And what's it with the RAM bandwidth? With the RAM controller inside the CPU itself, shouldn't the chipset not make that much of a difference? But still the Nforce3 chipset based boards get a much better bandwidth. Is it the bioses fault (Asus) or is really the chipset (VIA) to blame?
I get a fraction of the RAM bandwidth after tweaking the hell out of my ramsticks the MSI K8N Neon Platinum gets by default; and that's something im not exactly happy with...
Guess why i try out every new bios revision i can grab *sigh*
Personally, as soon as this Jetway board i mentioned is out, it's no more VIA/Asus for me for a while.

-Lef

05-28-2005, 01:25 PM	#2431
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Well Wazman if I were you I would downgrade my bios to 1009 version which is really rocking according other users. I sadly didn't have a choice, I bought this mobo flashed with 1011 to support my San Diego Core CPU. I cannot test it with a lower version bios. For the ram settings put them on manual set them up accordingly Cas latency 3 Ras to Cas 3 Ras precharge 3 Active precharge delay 8 also set the voltage of the ram to 2.7 volts. Keep us posted For my problem I have no clue why I don't have more memory performance, I had a 3500 NC core on an Abit AV8 and it scored way better in the memory department than my current rig. With the 1013 bios I saw a good increase in memory performance but the Read performance is way to low to my likings, also in Sisoft sandra their way lower than usual. I will print my bios settings maybe you can compare what is set wrong or not. Thx for the help guys __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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05-28-2005, 11:29 PM	#2432
magicwad Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Wondering if anyone can verify if the memory dividers are working with the 1013 beta??? __________________ A8V Rev.2 w/1013.005 bios Athlon 3200 winchester @235 X10 stock HSF w/ AS5 vcore - 1.525 vdimm - 2.8 1 gig corsair twinx 3200xl-pt @2:1 "2-3-3-8 1T" enermax noisetaker 470 watt Geforce 6800gt @ 400 core-1000 mem 80gig WD Hard drive
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05-29-2005, 04:51 AM	#2433
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Update on Bios 1013 beta regarding my poor memory performance. Looking at A64 tweaker and after fiddling around with some settings I lowered Row cycle time ( 13 detected by Bios) to 10 and the Row refresh cycle time ( 24 bios) to 12 and guess what it was way better here are the old Read 4843Mb/s Write 2317MB/s Latency 46.5ns here are the new Read 5538Mb/s Write 2388MB/s Latency 45.7ns gonna do some more testing, these settings were a non boot with the previous 1011 and 1012 beta bios ( even lowering these a few points was a non boot for sure and a Cmos reset was necessary) Once memory speed is up to par I'll test the dividers __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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05-29-2005, 04:14 PM	#2435
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	here they are I needed to loose the timings, they survived a few passes of memtest but in SuperPI 16 and 32 I got errors around 7th iteration. Here's a screenie of the detected A64 tweak settings Everest Home : Read 5481 Write 2057 Latency 46.5ns Sisoft Sandra Bandwith Int Buffered 5912 Bandwith Float buffered 5895 These numbers are at DDR400 speeds no OC yet , hope the numbers will improve with the final release __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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06-01-2005, 04:52 PM	#2436
magicwad Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	leeghoofd...are those the timings after you loosened them or are they the ones that gave the superpi errors?? __________________ A8V Rev.2 w/1013.005 bios Athlon 3200 winchester @235 X10 stock HSF w/ AS5 vcore - 1.525 vdimm - 2.8 1 gig corsair twinx 3200xl-pt @2:1 "2-3-3-8 1T" enermax noisetaker 470 watt Geforce 6800gt @ 400 core-1000 mem 80gig WD Hard drive
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06-02-2005, 10:54 AM	#2437
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	These are the loosened ones, difference with the ones with the Pi errors was Row Cycle time 10 Row refresh Cycle time 12 Better memory performance in Everest home (write test around 2320 )but a no go in SuperPI I would love to see some other A64 tweaker shots so I can compare the other settings, I really hope I can get near the Abit scores with the final 1013 bios version __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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06-03-2005, 11:57 AM	#2438
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Tested new Beta bios 1013.007 Improvement in the read 2320 Super PI stable decrease in write for me 4856 lol this is driving me nuts !! New bios has other memory timings than the 1013.005 all set to auto in the bios but I verified them with A64 tweaker and the XL ram SPD is better read out and near the settings I had in the previous post of the A64 tweaker. __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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06-04-2005, 02:12 PM	#2439
theman_abx Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	im using 1009, and i just noticed a weird problem with the memory dividers. any change in dividers causes a no post. i have to leave it on auto. any ideas why this started happening? it was working fine before.
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06-07-2005, 11:03 AM	#2440
Lefhark Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18	1014.001 Bios Did anyone try the new 1014.001 beta Bios yet? Flashed it and fanspeeds reports are totally messed up. clearing cmos didn't help this time. After doing so the fanspeeds got reported correctly right after i booted up again, but after setting the Bios up and restarting, fanspeeds showed half of the speed the fans were really running at, resulting in a CPU fan error warning. Did anyone else see this too? -Lef
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06-07-2005, 01:40 PM	#2441
theman_abx Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	geez, whats with all the bios updates recently? they went from 1012 to 1014 in a month. ***?
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06-07-2005, 02:34 PM	#2442
Lefhark Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18	This board is just weird... after resetting cmos a few times more along with switching off the PSU the board suddenly started itself without me pushing the "ON" button (which it normally shouldn't do) and the fanspeed got reported normally again and stayed that way... Never had as many oddities with my previous boards as with this one here. My next board won't be an Asus/VIA one, that's for sure. I think i'll give Jetway/ULI with their A695DAS a try - PCI-E without the need to trash my AGP videocard right away.
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06-09-2005, 02:32 PM	#2443
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Absolutely no prob shere, I like the 1014 because memspeeds are up a bit ( thx for that) and it survives SuperPI at tighter timings (set auto by the mobo ) Isn't there soemthing elso wrong with your rig ? Did you have issues before flashing to the latest Beta ? __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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06-09-2005, 04:30 PM	#2444
magicwad Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	what about the dividers....any improvement in that area??? __________________ A8V Rev.2 w/1013.005 bios Athlon 3200 winchester @235 X10 stock HSF w/ AS5 vcore - 1.525 vdimm - 2.8 1 gig corsair twinx 3200xl-pt @2:1 "2-3-3-8 1T" enermax noisetaker 470 watt Geforce 6800gt @ 400 core-1000 mem 80gig WD Hard drive
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