DFI NF4 Thread - Page 109

xgman · 04-05-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sierra

Supposedly it will be released April 15th. I say "supposedly" because the Venice chips were supposed to be released April 4th and they're still not available. I think it was the proverbial paper launch. Also, there are no FX-57 reviews yet. The reviewers usually get the chips before the public. Monarch Computer will likely have it before Newegg because Monarch is an AMD launch partner.

Don't be surprised if FX-57 doesn't show up till June.

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Sierra_abx · 04-05-2005, 09:36 PM

Who needs FX-57. PC Ice just did this with a Venice chip and DFI NF4 board.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10441

BTW, this is also posted in the Venice thread in A64 General Discussion section.

xgman · 04-05-2005, 09:38 PM

Wowzer. I guess they don't call him "Icee" for nothing.

Sierra_abx · 04-05-2005, 09:44 PM

Looks like he was using a divider. According to the CPU-Z page, RAM (G.Skill) was running at 241.5MHz with 2.5-3-3-7 timings. Very impressive.

xgman · 04-05-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sierra

Looks like he was using a divider. According to the CPU-Z page, RAM (G.Skill) was running at 241.5MHz with 2.5-3-3-7 timings. Very impressive.

oh, I see. I was getting ready to track down some of that gskill 4800 if it did 312 1-1 at 2.5-3-3-7-1T.

Blue078 · 04-05-2005, 10:00 PM

Is that with Single Phase Change or dual, or LN2 ????

I seen some were getting venice 3800+ to 2900mhz on water

Sierra_abx · 04-05-2005, 10:05 PM

I believe it was a three-stage cascade. More importantly, it appears Venice (at least the 3800+) does not suffer from the cold bug like Winchester did.

It's scary to think what FX-57 and that kind of cooling would do. I think the 4GHz barrier for A64's is going to be broken in the near future.

Eldonko · 04-05-2005, 10:13 PM

Testing windows stability at 250Mhz at 2-2-2-5. Passed 25 test 5 loops and am about to run some SuperPI.

kswiss · 04-05-2005, 10:40 PM

Nice, thanks!

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Blue078 · 04-05-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Testing windows stability at 250Mhz at 2-2-2-5. Passed 25 test 5 loops and am about to run some SuperPI.

Nice

Keep me posted when you start to play HalfLife2. I am haveing major problems with games and stability, with my BH-5 and Mushkin Blue also.

Eldonko · 04-06-2005, 01:32 AM

Grr, not stable in 3d apps, been tweaking for 8 hours now, I need a break. Its so close, I only get a few memtest errors here and there and I know I need to change something but can't figure out what.

*johnrr6* · 04-06-2005, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Grr, not stable in 3d apps, been tweaking for 8 hours now, I need a break. Its so close, I only get a few memtest errors here and there and I know I need to change something but can't figure out what.

Been watching your struggles.....

It's soooo true------how many times have I gone trough the 3dMarks and Prime95----ran the crud out of my machines to ensure they were rock stable....

Only to start playing a high end 3d game and it crash the machine left and right.

I don't think the 3dMarks are very good high end stress testors although 3dMark 05 seems to be better-----yes, they give you a score-----but do they REALLY tell you if your machine can handle other 3d apps????

I say, for the most part, no......

I'd be nice to have a high end 3d game stress testor----something you knew that if it could pass this-----it would stay stable with almost any game.

Maybe it's already out there and I just don't know what it is......

Prime95 just doesn't cut it for 3d games......

Anybody have a candidate benchmark/tool that they'd recommend???

John

Steeldragonnyc · 04-06-2005, 08:18 AM

Hi sierra, you have made my experience with my new toy so pain free. I just re- read your first post where you linked the ram compatibility for the dfi board. When I went to the recommended memories for NF4 page, I noticed that some of the ram where listed in black and alot in blue. Does it mean that one is better for oc than the other?? I was looking at PC4400 (DDR550) Mushkin/Hi Perf Dual Pack/Samsung/512MB *(K4H560838F-TCCD)

Blue078 · 04-06-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrr6

Been watching your struggles.....

It's soooo true------how many times have I gone trough the 3dMarks and Prime95----ran the crud out of my machines to ensure they were rock stable....

Only to start playing a high end 3d game and it crash the machine left and right.

I don't think the 3dMarks are very good high end stress testors although 3dMark 05 seems to be better-----yes, they give you a score-----but do they REALLY tell you if your machine can handle other 3d apps????

I say, for the most part, no......

I'd be nice to have a high end 3d game stress testor----something you knew that if it could pass this-----it would stay stable with almost any game.

Maybe it's already out there and I just don't know what it is......

Prime95 just doesn't cut it for 3d games......

Anybody have a candidate benchmark/tool that they'd recommend???

John

WOW!!! I'm not alone anymore

I have the same problem. I can clock my old school Twinmos BH-5 to 260htt cas2-2-2-5-1t and run all the benchmarks even 3D, but try 5mins of singleplayer HL2 or Doom3 and the result is bluescreen or crash or some sorta issue.

I can even get game benchmarks to run....but "IMO" they do not represent real world stress. Think about it when you run a game bench all your doing is replaying a prerecored demo of the game engine. No sound/USB and other system resorces that actual game play utlizes.

eva2000 · 04-06-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue078

WOW!!! I'm not alone anymore

I have the same problem. I can clock my old school Twinmos BH-5 to 260htt cas2-2-2-5-1t and run all the benchmarks even 3D, but try 5mins of singleplayer HL2 or Doom3 and the result is bluescreen or crash or some sorta issue.

I can even get game benchmarks to run....but "IMO" they do not represent real world stress. Think about it when you run a game bench all your doing is replaying a prerecored demo of the game engine. No sound/USB and other system resorces that actual game play utlizes.

start playing with Trc, Trfc values as well loosening them may help

04-05-2005, 09:36 PM	#1622
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Who needs FX-57. PC Ice just did this with a Venice chip and DFI NF4 board. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10441 BTW, this is also posted in the Venice thread in A64 General Discussion section.
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04-05-2005, 10:05 PM	#1627
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	I believe it was a three-stage cascade. More importantly, it appears Venice (at least the 3800+) does not suffer from the cold bug like Winchester did. It's scary to think what FX-57 and that kind of cooling would do. I think the 4GHz barrier for A64's is going to be broken in the near future. Last edited by Sierra_abx; 04-05-2005 at 10:16 PM..
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04-05-2005, 10:13 PM	#1628
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Testing windows stability at 250Mhz at 2-2-2-5. Passed 25 test 5 loops and am about to run some SuperPI. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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04-06-2005, 01:32 AM	#1631
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Grr, not stable in 3d apps, been tweaking for 8 hours now, I need a break. Its so close, I only get a few memtest errors here and there and I know I need to change something but can't figure out what. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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04-06-2005, 08:18 AM	#1633
Steeldragonnyc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 205	Memory compatibility question Hi sierra, you have made my experience with my new toy so pain free. I just re- read your first post where you linked the ram compatibility for the dfi board. When I went to the recommended memories for NF4 page, I noticed that some of the ram where listed in black and alot in blue. Does it mean that one is better for oc than the other?? I was looking at PC4400 (DDR550) Mushkin/Hi Perf Dual Pack/Samsung/512MB *(K4H560838F-TCCD) __________________ DFI NF4 SLI-DR Expert BIOS/NF4EDC07.exe nForce4 Standalone Kit (6.67) AMD64 3200+ winie with some Arctic Silver 5 Chaintech nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT (81.85) ATI TV Wonder Elite CORSAIR XMS (2 x 1GB) Twinx2048-3200c2 @2-3-3-6(2.79V) Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA Plextor 16X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW SATA SIIG USB 2.0 9-in-1 R/W + Floppy Card Reader Audigy2 ZS THERMALTAKE Kandalf VA9000SWA Silver OCZ OCZ600ADJSLI ATX12V 2.01
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