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xgman · 02-22-2005, 01:15 PM

How are you guys killing vid slot #1 again?

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Sierra_abx · 02-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

How are you guys killing vid slot #1 again?

Well, I think the slot was already half-dead when I got the board. Should have the new board by mid-week. Not going to be able to do much with it anyway til the weekend. Too busy at work.

xgman · 02-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxshwagg

in boston, ma

i preordered one through my sales rep at dell higher education sales. he says the sku will be available 3/1 and there will be a 2 week lead time for shipping. he is going to run my order when he gets in that morning. i am selling my planar ws231 right now on ebay before prices plummet when the dell 24" comes out....$1200 for a 24" lcd is impossible to resist. for CAD work this is the ultimate setup, for games it is very nice also if your gpu can handle it......

max

2 weeks?? So hurry up and wait again,

Maybe there will be some sort of coupon we can use by 3/1.

http://www.coupon-kingdom.com/dell.asp

maxxshwagg · 02-22-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

2 weeks?? So hurry up and wait again,

Maybe there will be some sort of coupon we can use by 3/1.

http://www.coupon-kingdom.com/dell.asp

i can imagine that after the first day the lead time will be a lot more than 2 weeks.

Glorfy · 02-23-2005, 05:02 AM

For anyone using Hynix ram, such as OCZ 3700 Gold rev 3.

I originally had some in my system, working fine, no problems. The other day I went to put it back in, after clearing cmos, seting jumper to 3.3v for vdimm etc. I couldn't get the system to run stably at anything above default, even with going back to the original bios, so took it out. I've had more time today, so I looked into it more thoroughly.

Starting up A64tweaker, I noticed that 'Max Async Lat' had been set to 5ns (auto in bios). Moved this to 7ns, and was able to go to 260htt! Altered in bios to confirm, and all OK!

So the next question is, why have I got two sets of RAM that crap out at 260htt? I then tried the hynix 2T, because I knew it had done 270+ on Asus A8N. No difference! At all! I've had the htt up to 360 with a divider, so know thats not limiting me. Memory controller on my winnie?

eva2000 · 02-23-2005, 11:54 AM

Anyone experience weird temps between different cpus ? I tried several remounts and this is what i get

now i swapped to 3500+ 0441 TPAW and cpu temps are high again even after 6 remounts!

3200+ CBBHD 0450 UPJW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 41-43C
CPU load = 51-56C

3200+ CBBHD 0445 VPMW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 31-33C
CPU load = 41-46C

3500+ CBBFD 0441 TPAW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 38-43C
CPU load = 51-57C

cooled by MCW6002 + MCP650 + MCP600 in series with Thermochill 120.3 with 3x 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans

room temp 29-33C

Sierra_abx · 02-23-2005, 11:55 AM

Glorfy,

Some of the BIOS versions will give you more aggressive timings at default. Even if you have everything set to Auto, you'll notice some of the secondary timings have changed.

The board may not like your RAM. That's always a possibility, though 260 is nothing to be ashamed of. I think some BIOS versions are optimized for certain types of memory. The only RAM I've seen that performs well on just about every A64 board is BH-5. Of course you won't get the same HTT as TCCD-based modules. But I prefer tight timings with reasonably high HTT.

Glorfy · 02-23-2005, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sierra

Glorfy,

Some of the BIOS versions will give you more aggressive timings at default. Even if you have everything set to Auto, you'll notice some of the secondary timings have changed.

The board may not like your RAM. That's always a possibility, though 260 is nothing to be ashamed of. I think some BIOS versions are optimized for certain types of memory. The only RAM I've seen that performs well on just about every A64 board is BH-5. Of course you won't get the same HTT as TCCD-based modules. But I prefer tight timings with reasonably high HTT.

Max async Lat for my BH5 is set to 7ns by default, so not sure why it changes for hynix

Anyway, the point was to highlight it to anyone that is having trouble with hynix

I'm happy with 260 on both sets - but think it seems odd that they both top out at the same point, so wonder if its a limit imposed by something other than the memory. I have a 130nm 3500+, I may pop that in and see how it goes!

Sierra_abx · 02-23-2005, 02:28 PM

It depends on what multiplier you're using. If you're using a higher multi, it could be that your CPU is maxxed out at 260.

In order to get very high clocks on Hynix chips, you generally need to use 3-4-4-8 timings.

Glorfy · 02-23-2005, 02:44 PM

CPU maxes out at 2664-2740 depending how stable I want it

With a 10X multiplier 260htt is as high as I can go 1:1, so I run with X11 multi and 240-248htt.

DOTC2003 · 02-23-2005, 07:16 PM

I cant help but get a smile on my face when i read this thread. I was the proud owner.. still am actually of the 875p DFI Lanparty board (Intel I know).
I had massive problems trying to do anything with this board. I couldnt even OC a 2.8 past 228 without BSOD and no posts. I left the sucker at default for ages. One night while I was drinking.. I decided to try overclocking again (keep in mind, one wrong setting would result in me having to clear the bios) and BAM! All of a sudden its hitting 260 stable with no issues at all.. talk about burn in time. Nothing had changed with my system at all in that month period.. Still running to this day stable as a rock. Hopefully.. this is whats going on with the A64 boards. Minus the TCCD issue. Sucks cause i was looking into some PQi memory (heard good things). Anyway.. Probably way off topic.

*Edit* Sig is wrong.. been a while since Ive been here.

xgman · 02-24-2005, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Anyone experience weird temps between different cpus ? I tried several remounts and this is what i get

now i swapped to 3500+ 0441 TPAW and cpu temps are high again even after 6 remounts!

3200+ CBBHD 0450 UPJW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 41-43C
CPU load = 51-56C

3200+ CBBHD 0445 VPMW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 31-33C
CPU load = 41-46C

3500+ CBBFD 0441 TPAW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 38-43C
CPU load = 51-57C

cooled by MCW6002 + MCP650 + MCP600 in series with Thermochill 120.3 with 3x 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans

room temp 29-33C

If you take the same CPU and seat it 3 different times you will get 3 different sets of temps.

Sierra_abx · 02-24-2005, 01:31 PM

Just got my new board (Ultra-D). It doesn't come with all the extras that the SLI-DR has. But I didn't need that stuff anyway. I'm toying with the idea of just running it in my Lian-Li case, and using my old Neo2 and X800XT for occasional benching. Probably won't be able to test the news board until tomorrow or the weekend. Work is consuming too much of my time.

xgman · 02-24-2005, 02:41 PM

what is the version # of the ultra -D?

Sierra_abx · 02-24-2005, 02:46 PM

It says "R.A02".

02-22-2005, 01:15 PM	#601
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02-23-2005, 05:02 AM	#605
Glorfy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Banbury, UK Posts: 150	Hynix RAM For anyone using Hynix ram, such as OCZ 3700 Gold rev 3. I originally had some in my system, working fine, no problems. The other day I went to put it back in, after clearing cmos, seting jumper to 3.3v for vdimm etc. I couldn't get the system to run stably at anything above default, even with going back to the original bios, so took it out. I've had more time today, so I looked into it more thoroughly. Starting up A64tweaker, I noticed that 'Max Async Lat' had been set to 5ns (auto in bios). Moved this to 7ns, and was able to go to 260htt! Altered in bios to confirm, and all OK! So the next question is, why have I got two sets of RAM that crap out at 260htt? I then tried the hynix 2T, because I knew it had done 270+ on Asus A8N. No difference! At all! I've had the htt up to 360 with a divider, so know thats not limiting me. Memory controller on my winnie? __________________ DFI Nf4 SLI-DR A64 3800 X2 OCZ 3200 Platinum Limited Editon (BH6) 2XLeadtek 6800 GT OCZ 600 PSU Prometeia Mach II
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02-23-2005, 11:54 AM	#606
eva2000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,674	Anyone experience weird temps between different cpus ? I tried several remounts and this is what i get now i swapped to 3500+ 0441 TPAW and cpu temps are high again even after 6 remounts! 3200+ CBBHD 0450 UPJW @2700mhz at ~1.6v CPU idle = 41-43C CPU load = 51-56C 3200+ CBBHD 0445 VPMW @2700mhz at ~1.6v CPU idle = 31-33C CPU load = 41-46C 3500+ CBBFD 0441 TPAW @2700mhz at ~1.6v CPU idle = 38-43C CPU load = 51-57C cooled by MCW6002 + MCP650 + MCP600 in series with Thermochill 120.3 with 3x 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans room temp 29-33C __________________ ....
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02-23-2005, 11:55 AM	#607
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Glorfy, Some of the BIOS versions will give you more aggressive timings at default. Even if you have everything set to Auto, you'll notice some of the secondary timings have changed. The board may not like your RAM. That's always a possibility, though 260 is nothing to be ashamed of. I think some BIOS versions are optimized for certain types of memory. The only RAM I've seen that performs well on just about every A64 board is BH-5. Of course you won't get the same HTT as TCCD-based modules. But I prefer tight timings with reasonably high HTT.
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02-23-2005, 02:28 PM	#609
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	It depends on what multiplier you're using. If you're using a higher multi, it could be that your CPU is maxxed out at 260. In order to get very high clocks on Hynix chips, you generally need to use 3-4-4-8 timings.
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02-23-2005, 02:44 PM	#610
Glorfy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Banbury, UK Posts: 150	CPU maxes out at 2664-2740 depending how stable I want it With a 10X multiplier 260htt is as high as I can go 1:1, so I run with X11 multi and 240-248htt. __________________ DFI Nf4 SLI-DR A64 3800 X2 OCZ 3200 Platinum Limited Editon (BH6) 2XLeadtek 6800 GT OCZ 600 PSU Prometeia Mach II
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02-23-2005, 07:16 PM	#611
DOTC2003 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 121	I cant help but get a smile on my face when i read this thread. I was the proud owner.. still am actually of the 875p DFI Lanparty board (Intel I know). I had massive problems trying to do anything with this board. I couldnt even OC a 2.8 past 228 without BSOD and no posts. I left the sucker at default for ages. One night while I was drinking.. I decided to try overclocking again (keep in mind, one wrong setting would result in me having to clear the bios) and BAM! All of a sudden its hitting 260 stable with no issues at all.. talk about burn in time. Nothing had changed with my system at all in that month period.. Still running to this day stable as a rock. Hopefully.. this is whats going on with the A64 boards. Minus the TCCD issue. Sucks cause i was looking into some PQi memory (heard good things). Anyway.. Probably way off topic. Edit Sig is wrong.. been a while since Ive been here. Last edited by DOTC2003; 02-23-2005 at 08:21 PM..
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02-24-2005, 01:31 PM	#613
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Just got my new board (Ultra-D). It doesn't come with all the extras that the SLI-DR has. But I didn't need that stuff anyway. I'm toying with the idea of just running it in my Lian-Li case, and using my old Neo2 and X800XT for occasional benching. Probably won't be able to test the news board until tomorrow or the weekend. Work is consuming too much of my time. Last edited by Sierra_abx; 02-24-2005 at 02:30 PM..
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02-24-2005, 02:41 PM	#614
xgman voider of warranties Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,658	what is the version # of the ultra -D? __________________ P5K Dlx-QX9650/VapoLS @4.8ghz/VapoLS-Stacker830case-Team PC2-9600-8800GTX-Hitachi 7K1000's-Auzentech Meridian 7.1/Kliptsch-Tagan itz 900w-Dell3007wfp
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02-24-2005, 02:46 PM	#615
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	It says "R.A02".
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