DFI NF4 Thread - Page 98

John64 · 04-02-2005, 07:11 PM

but as you said, with the 3200VX its hit and miss with DDR500 2225. what i mean is if DDR500 2225 wont work at any VDimm, can i loosen the timings, like with normal ram, to get that speed?

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Sierra_abx · 04-02-2005, 07:19 PM

Yes, you could loosen the timings. But I don't think you'll have problems hitting DDR500 @ 2-2-2-5, as long as you give the RAM enough voltage. DDR520 may be a little harder. Also, VX needs time to break in, especially at high voltage.

On another subject, I flashed to one of the new betas (331-2) but didn't see any improvement, so I flashed back to 217. The latest betas have a new BIOS option that allows you to add 0.03v to VDimm. It actually added about 0.05v when I looked at SmartGuardian.

I also have my Hitachi SATA-II up and running. Seems okay. But IDE drives still get better top speed for me. I also got my new Raptors (had to RMA the old ones). So I'm inundated with HDD's right now.

I may just sell them unopened. Haven't decided yet.

John64 · 04-02-2005, 07:25 PM

how do you break in ram?

about the hds, i would sell them unopened, otherwise you wont get your money or value from them. I like my Sata's better, i noticed that they are 4-5mb faster in the default sandra test than my old Maxtor 160/8 ata133 (single drive to single drive)

Sierra_abx · 04-02-2005, 07:33 PM

You can break them in by running Memtest86+ all day. Try 3.0v first, then the next day 3.1v, then 3.2v, etc. If you try running them at 3.4+ right away, you will likely get tons of Memtest errors.

For general usage, SATA drives are the way to go. But many serious benchers use IDE drives because they generally get better top speeds. The speed of the drive itself does not affect 3DMark scores, for instance. All my best 3DMark scores and SuperPi/Pifast times have been done with IDE drives.

John64 · 04-02-2005, 07:35 PM

will that help my TCCD as well?

Sierra_abx · 04-02-2005, 07:38 PM

Not really because TCCD doesn't need a lot of voltage. VX, on the other hand, does. Some people run VX with 3.1-3.2v, which is fine for day-to-day use. But for best performance, you have to use more voltage than that. BH-5 is pretty much the same way.

John64 · 04-02-2005, 07:47 PM

is VX that new BH5 i have heard mentioned?

Sierra_abx · 04-02-2005, 07:52 PM

No, OCZ's new BH-5 is called PC3200 Gold. It's certainly another option for you. The results I've seen seem to be pretty good. You should be able to hit DDR500 with 2-2-2-5 timings.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...r_pc_3200_gold

Various memory-makers are coming out with new BH-5 modules. The original BH-5 chips were made by Winbond, but that company has gotten out of the DRAM business.

Derektm · 04-02-2005, 08:12 PM

Im going to attempt to record a small clip of how the sound is. Will any of you listen to it and tell me what you think?

Blue078 · 04-02-2005, 09:18 PM

Sure I'll listen. I know how flusterating these little yet anoying issues are

I've had a few myself

John64 · 04-02-2005, 09:38 PM

i used to be able to hear my mouse in my speakers and stuff, but i just stoped noticing it, blue078 reminded me of it. i think it was due to using unsheilded audio cabling though

Sir Skully · 04-02-2005, 10:16 PM

I'm coming over to light up the dark side!

Looks like I'll be reading through this thread. I have this stuff coming in:

FX 55
dfi nf4 ultra-d motherboard
ocz powerstream psu unit
ocz 2x512 vx4000
Rosewill 256PX ATI X800XL
Danger Den, Copper TDX Block for Athlon64

Sierra_abx · 04-02-2005, 10:20 PM

Woo hoo. Skully is moving to the dark side.

:wave2:

The first post in this thread is probably the most important one.

Sir Skully · 04-02-2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sierra

Woo hoo. Skully is moving to the dark side.

:wave2:

The first post in this thread is probably the most important one.

I hear ya bro, it will be a learning curve for sure, but fun! I hope to have all this stuff in by next week.

Ford Freak · 04-03-2005, 12:54 AM

I think Sierra is getting everybody hooked on the Nforce boards and FX chips.

04-02-2005, 07:11 PM	#1456
John64 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,450	but as you said, with the 3200VX its hit and miss with DDR500 2225. what i mean is if DDR500 2225 wont work at any VDimm, can i loosen the timings, like with normal ram, to get that speed? __________________
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04-02-2005, 07:19 PM	#1457
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Yes, you could loosen the timings. But I don't think you'll have problems hitting DDR500 @ 2-2-2-5, as long as you give the RAM enough voltage. DDR520 may be a little harder. Also, VX needs time to break in, especially at high voltage. On another subject, I flashed to one of the new betas (331-2) but didn't see any improvement, so I flashed back to 217. The latest betas have a new BIOS option that allows you to add 0.03v to VDimm. It actually added about 0.05v when I looked at SmartGuardian. I also have my Hitachi SATA-II up and running. Seems okay. But IDE drives still get better top speed for me. I also got my new Raptors (had to RMA the old ones). So I'm inundated with HDD's right now. I may just sell them unopened. Haven't decided yet.
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04-02-2005, 07:25 PM	#1458
John64 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,450	how do you break in ram? about the hds, i would sell them unopened, otherwise you wont get your money or value from them. I like my Sata's better, i noticed that they are 4-5mb faster in the default sandra test than my old Maxtor 160/8 ata133 (single drive to single drive) __________________
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04-02-2005, 07:33 PM	#1459
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	You can break them in by running Memtest86+ all day. Try 3.0v first, then the next day 3.1v, then 3.2v, etc. If you try running them at 3.4+ right away, you will likely get tons of Memtest errors. For general usage, SATA drives are the way to go. But many serious benchers use IDE drives because they generally get better top speeds. The speed of the drive itself does not affect 3DMark scores, for instance. All my best 3DMark scores and SuperPi/Pifast times have been done with IDE drives.
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04-02-2005, 07:35 PM	#1460
John64 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,450	will that help my TCCD as well? __________________
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04-02-2005, 07:38 PM	#1461
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Not really because TCCD doesn't need a lot of voltage. VX, on the other hand, does. Some people run VX with 3.1-3.2v, which is fine for day-to-day use. But for best performance, you have to use more voltage than that. BH-5 is pretty much the same way.
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04-02-2005, 07:47 PM	#1462
John64 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,450	is VX that new BH5 i have heard mentioned? __________________
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04-02-2005, 07:52 PM	#1463
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	No, OCZ's new BH-5 is called PC3200 Gold. It's certainly another option for you. The results I've seen seem to be pretty good. You should be able to hit DDR500 with 2-2-2-5 timings. http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...r_pc_3200_gold Various memory-makers are coming out with new BH-5 modules. The original BH-5 chips were made by Winbond, but that company has gotten out of the DRAM business.
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04-02-2005, 08:12 PM	#1464
Derektm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14	Im going to attempt to record a small clip of how the sound is. Will any of you listen to it and tell me what you think?
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04-02-2005, 09:18 PM	#1465
Blue078 BB Stacker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 2,391	Sure I'll listen. I know how flusterating these little yet anoying issues are I've had a few myself __________________ DFI SLI-D r.AA0...BIOS 702-2...3700+...7800GTX...2x1g Ballistix..PCP&P 510SLI ...Creative XFi...Promedeia Ultra 5.1's...2005FPW...Cooling by Prometeia and Thermaltake
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04-02-2005, 09:38 PM	#1466
John64 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,450	i used to be able to hear my mouse in my speakers and stuff, but i just stoped noticing it, blue078 reminded me of it. i think it was due to using unsheilded audio cabling though __________________
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04-02-2005, 10:16 PM	#1467
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,867	I'm coming over to light up the dark side! Looks like I'll be reading through this thread. I have this stuff coming in: FX 55 dfi nf4 ultra-d motherboard ocz powerstream psu unit ocz 2x512 vx4000 Rosewill 256PX ATI X800XL Danger Den, Copper TDX Block for Athlon64 __________________ ..................................................................................................................... Last edited by Sir Skully; 04-02-2005 at 10:32 PM..
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04-02-2005, 10:20 PM	#1468
Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	Woo hoo. Skully is moving to the dark side. :wave2: The first post in this thread is probably the most important one.
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04-03-2005, 12:54 AM	#1470
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