AnandTech Article - New Intel CPU's and chipsets coming!

[Sir Skully]

I'm sitting @ a very nice stable 24/7 i7 920 oc of 4.2gig.
This is were I thought a couple SSD's in RAID-O.
Would be the best speed advantage. Instead of a i7 975.
Speaking for myself. The SSD's you can see and feel
the smoothness, and speed along with the silent running.

[XJ.]

Originally Posted by Sir Skully

I'm sitting @ a very nice stable 24/7 i7 920 oc of 4.2gig.
This is were I thought a couple SSD's in RAID-O.
Would be the best speed advantage. Instead of a i7 975.
Speaking for myself. The SSD's you can see and feel
the smoothness, and speed along with the silent running.

Very nice Skully - you're drive setup is wickedly fast! I'll likely be replacing my 150GB Raptor with a 300GB Velocirator - to expensive for me right now to get the storage I need with and SSD drive. Maybe in a year or two it'll be a different story.

In the mean time, enjoy that beast or yours!

[Sandog]

I have a good feeling about Lynnfield. I think these CPU's will really shine and become the darlings of mainstream. It has been a long time since Nehalem first came out and these will have a newer stepping than the D0 Bloomfields. Mostly I like the new tech. coming with the new chipsets for Lynnfield. Also I don't mind dual channel RAM especially when 3 channel does not offer much performance over 2 channel if at all. Also benchmarks prove you don't need much more than 3GBs of system RAM anyway. 4GB's is very sufficient and I can go to 6/8GBs. With 3 channel you have 6GB's and have to go to 6 DIMM's in order to increase and keep 3 channels. Too much wasted power. My Q9650 beats Bloomfield in performance per watt and Lynnfield will be closer to Q9650 in TDP. At least total system power will be very close to my Q9650/DP45SG. Also for those waiting on Gulftown who don't already own X58 the only feature I am aware of over
Lynnfield is 32nm/second gen. high-K/six core. So basically you get two cores more and better power but Lynnfield will be low enough power anyway. Idle power is awesome, and only the cores necessary will get boosted so I don't see much more power saving needed with Gulftown. I think Lynnfield will bury Core 2 tech. quickly.

[XJ.]

Once ramped up, and if not screwed up, Lynnfield will be Intel's performance desktop processor ( AT Lynnfield preview ). One can only hope that they will overclock nicely. Though I'm thinking they won't match the same % wise overclocks at 45nm as some Core 2s did (maybe that feat will have to wait for 32nm - which will be Westmere). At the rate I'm going, I'll probably be looking at Westmere for my next upgrade. Here's an AT article that shows roughly where the 32nm process is: Intel's 32nm update

[Sandog]

Hi XJ,

Westmere has IGP. Don't want. If I'm not mistaken the first 32nm parts like Bloomfield will be Gulftown. I've read about the 32nm process 6mos ago and posted. The prediction is %40 greater speed or less power req. but like I was saying Lynnfield will be even lower power than my Penryn so I don't care. What I want is low idle, 3.6GHz turbo, quad core with HT and that is precisely what Lynnfield is albeit with dual channel RAM. The mobo's will still have 4 useful RAM slots not 3+1 or 6(too many). Right now a 3.0 Lynnfield is a go but by the time it is available we will be seeing better into the future with the 32nm parts and can make a better decision. I have a wonderful system that would last well into 2010 so I'm not in a hurry at all. I just like Lynnfield + the P57 and unless there is a dual channel RAM chipset and newr 32nm quad core parts without the IGP then I will get Lynnfield.

Sandog

[Sandog]

I might add that I am sticking with Intel mobo's and OCing is not there forte. That is why turbo boost to 3.6GHz is so appealing to me. I am totally into having a cool running system and my next system will be cooler than this one. Here are some board shots of the P55 chipset. P57 will be the same.
TechConnect Magazine - Asus shows off trio of Intel P57 motherboards

Also cool are SSD's and I will be adding one or two next year sometime.

[XJ.]

'Westmere' is currently being treated as a reference to Intel's upcoming 32nm Process/Architecture - not to a specific chip, atm. I'm sure there is a 32nm performance desktop cpu under development (4 core/ 8 threads most likely). It's just not Intel's initial focus with the 32nm parts. I would certainly expect such a part by 2H10. There will not be a rush for such a CPU because Lynnfield will be doing the job nicely, with high yields and high speed bins in 1H10 (and will likely keep AMD at bay handily).

As for your projected upgrade path, I don't have any problem with that. I didn't post my comments as a critique of your plans. I posted merely to add to the discussion.

Cheers,
XJ

[Sandog]

Lynnfield will go to 32nm in mid 2010 but not sure of the name. There will be new instructions with Westmere also. Theres a lot going on in the next year with Intel and I willl probably wait for the 32nm parts also . No critique taken.

Sandog

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by Sir Skully

I'm sitting @ a very nice stable 24/7 i7 920 oc of 4.2gig.
This is were I thought a couple SSD's in RAID-O.
Would be the best speed advantage. Instead of a i7 975.
Speaking for myself. The SSD's you can see and feel
the smoothness, and speed along with the silent running.

Thanks for treading the SSD path for us Sir Skully.

[Sandog]

I wonder what kind of HSF pattern the LGA1156 socket uses. I hope Thermalright makes an adapter for my TRue 120 Black although I doubt I will need such a big HS with 32nm Westmere quad parts.

[XJ.]

Originally Posted by Sandog

I wonder what kind of HSF pattern the LGA1156 socket uses. I hope Thermalright makes an adapter for my TRue 120 Black although I doubt I will need such a big HS with 32nm Westmere quad parts.

Probably, Thermalright has been really good about that sort of thing. An example is the variety of parts and adapters stocked here: Retension and Hold-down Accessories for CPU Coolers

[Sandog]

Here's some benches on Lynnfield 2.93GHz. It is as good or better than i950 at same clocks which is why Intel is discontinuing the i950.

Fudzilla - Top Lynnfield is 9 to 62 percent better than Q9650

It can be seen that X58 with 3CH memory is hardly beating 2CH Lynnfield in most popular benchies. Also this Lynnfield chipper with P55 chipset kicks butt sans the ICH chip so you get the CPU + itsy-bitsy passive heat sinked chip with P55. Compare that to X58 mobo's and you'll save at least half the power. What is not mentioned in this article is that the 2.93GHz Lynnfield with turbo should hit 3.6GHz. Also the P55 will only do 2x8PCI-E video for Crossfire. I bet Intel's P57 chipset board will be an extreme edition also.

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Fudzilla - Top Lynnfield is 9 to 62 percent better than Q9650

9-62% faster?...that's quite a big range we got there lol...usually whenever I see a range of numbers they are usually grouped closer together---10-20%, 5-10% etc...I guess Intel is really covering all the bases with their pre-release marketing

[johnrr6]

Out of curiosity......How does it rate against a 920 Nelham???

Just pure unadulterated speed wise....

EDIT:

OK----if I would just READ the article....

Seems about the same clock for clock...

Nelham maybe a very slight shade faster

[k0NG0]

It's between zero and infinity percent faster.

I'm more interested in what the mobile side of things will bring. It's been kind of quiet since the latest Centrino platform name that I can't remember what with Nehalem on the desktop and Atom everywhere else. I'm guessing it'll be 32nm and out next year, earlyish. Prolly should read up on the Computex reports I guess.