AnandTech Article - New Intel CPU's and chipsets coming! - Page 5

polonyc2 · 06-20-2009, 01:04 PM

will any current i7 motherboard be Gulftown capable with a BIOS update?

even though I don't need to upgrade...and I'm probably not going to see any major performance improvements...but I'm getting the itch

2 things which are pushing me:

-i5 has no upgrade path so you're stuck with it (no matter how great it turns out be)

-if all i7 Gulftown needs is a BIOS update with current boards then I can easily pop in a new 32nm chip a year from now (future upgradeability is a big deal to me)

getting an i7 now seems about as future-proof as one can get in these days when technology is rapidly evolving

**Sandog** · 06-22-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

will any current i7 motherboard be Gulftown capable with a BIOS update?

even though I don't need to upgrade...and I'm probably not going to see any major performance improvements...but I'm getting the itch

2 things which are pushing me:

-i5 has no upgrade path so you're stuck with it (no matter how great it turns out be)

-if all i7 Gulftown needs is a BIOS update with current boards then I can easily pop in a new 32nm chip a year from now (future upgradeability is a big deal to me)

getting an i7 now seems about as future-proof as one can get in these days when technology is rapidly evolving

The i7 boards that support Extreme Edition chips since I believe Gulftown will be an Extreme Edition chip (with 6 cores).

Actually if I bet on longivity it would be LGA1156 as far a sockets go. Intel has split down two new desktop socket paths so they should both be available for around 5yrs. The high end chipset get replaced/discontinued and therefore lose BIOS support. For example, BADAXE1/2, X48 are gone but P965 lives on because it is %99 of sales (mainstream). The P55/57 chipset will be around for a long time and they to will run chips next year on 32nm.

Anyhoo, I use to get the top of the line but am more satisfied with mainstream now. The cool chipsets and all just let your system run better and longer IMO. They are also less costly and easy to get.

**Sandog** · 06-29-2009, 11:23 AM

More news about Braidwood turbo memory support.

Fudzilla - Intel compares Braidwood performance with SSD

I plan on getting a 16GB flash card from Intel. Lynnfield may not be as fast at stock as higher clocked tripple channel X58 setups but if it does 3.6GHz on single apps (majority of tasks) along with this Braidwood tech. then you will have a very smooth overall computer experience. Now if the P57 will later support 32nm chips which I am sure it will then this will be an excellent mainstream system. The P57 is a ways off and may even come with USB3.0 and/or SATA3. I know it will have 12-14 USB ports though.

**Sandog** · 07-02-2009, 10:34 PM

Close look at a Lynnfield CPU.

bit-tech.net | Blog - Lynnfield has arrived

Notice how large the i7 is.

Intel_User · 08-09-2009, 04:22 AM

Hi guys. I'm back. Sorry, due to negligence on my behalf I completely forgot about this site. Thanks to Sandog's friend request however, I remembered ABXZone.

I'm gonna do a post about Lynnfield and its mobile variant, Clarksfield, in a few mins.

BTW, I'm using a X25-M SSD now.

Sir Skully · 08-09-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intel_User

Hi guys. I'm back. Sorry, due to negligence on my behalf I completely forgot about this site. Thanks to Sandog's friend request however, I remembered ABXZone.

I'm gonna do a post about Lynnfield and its mobile variant, Clarksfield, in a few mins.

BTW, I'm using a X25-M SSD now.

Looking forward to your post on Lynnfield/Clarksfield...
I'm running OCZ SSD's and welcome to the SSD club.....

Bampson · 08-30-2009, 08:32 AM

So is the P57 chipset and Braidwood tech really being shelved? I was holding out for this as my next build which is long overdue.

Braidwood memory tech is gone

**Sandog** · 08-30-2009, 10:30 AM

Yes the P57 is not coming. Braidwood is not worth the trouble.

emgarf · 08-30-2009, 05:46 PM

Does Intel have a P55-based MB in the works?

**Sandog** · 08-30-2009, 07:23 PM

Intel has four P55 mobo's. More than ever before.

Intel_User · 08-30-2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

Yes the P57 is not coming. Braidwood is not worth the trouble.

What I don't get is why H57 and Q57 still exists on the roadmap? According to the info they'll still have it in forms of software. Although hardware acceleration was much more appealing.

polonyc2 · 08-31-2009, 09:45 PM

1 week to go until Lynnfield is officially released...

wonder if Intel will be dropping prices on previously released i7's...hope they do

emgarf · 09-01-2009, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

Intel has four P55 mobo's. More than ever before.

Good to hear. I'm still on the BadAxe 2 with a Q6600 but the P55 platform is likely to be in my next build.

**Sandog** · 09-01-2009, 10:36 AM

I could care less about P55/Lynnfield although it will be a great chipset/CPU. I am very satisfied with this X58 plus i7-920. It is so fast I don't think I need an SSD really. I run min. 3.33 to max. 3.65GHz depending on Turbo. CPU runs cool as well as the mobo. I mentioned before that I got my mobo, i7-920, and Corsair 3x2GB 1600 CL7 Dominators for the same price as a Lynnfield 3GHz CPU ($570.00). If somebody gave me a i7-975 I would sell it and keep my i7-920. I highly recommend getting this setup. With X58 you get more RAM and more CPU bandwidth and I bet you can setup a system for the same and even lower cost than a P55 if you try. Also the X58 is true 2x16PCIe whereas the P55 is 1x16, 1x8PCIe for Crossfire/SLI. The current Lynnfields might be equal or a little better in performance at equal clocks to Bloomfield but Intel will be coming out with 32nm CPU's for X58 next year and those should definitely put the X58 back on top again.

GWillakers · 09-09-2009, 01:17 PM

In general I consider the X58 a better platform, but there is one Lynnfield processor that really caught my eye. The Intel Xeon 1.86Ghz L3246.

Quad core, HT enabled with 8 MB L3. Two cores can ratchet up to 3.2GHz
All within 45W TDP!!!

This seems like the perfect do-everything solution.
Rendering... you have your four cores.
Gaming ... a snappy 3.2GHz on two.
Quiet HTPC system.... hey not hard to cool 45W
Business Reliability... ECC support
Budget... $284 (US)

For those who don't need two PCI express X16 graphics channels, this would be the way to go. I'm currently happy on a 17" monitor running a 7600 GS.
I don't believe that taxes the bandwidth on the connection, and if I wanted to upgrade my graphics, I would probably go to a single 8800GT.

Opinions?

06-20-2009, 01:04 PM	#61
polonyc2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 8,200	will any current i7 motherboard be Gulftown capable with a BIOS update? even though I don't need to upgrade...and I'm probably not going to see any major performance improvements...but I'm getting the itch 2 things which are pushing me: -i5 has no upgrade path so you're stuck with it (no matter how great it turns out be) -if all i7 Gulftown needs is a BIOS update with current boards then I can easily pop in a new 32nm chip a year from now (future upgradeability is a big deal to me) getting an i7 now seems about as future-proof as one can get in these days when technology is rapidly evolving __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB Intel E8400 * Noctua NH-U12P G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX850W AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP2 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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06-29-2009, 11:23 AM	#63
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: AnandTech Article - New Intel CPU's and chipsets coming! More news about Braidwood turbo memory support. Fudzilla - Intel compares Braidwood performance with SSD I plan on getting a 16GB flash card from Intel. Lynnfield may not be as fast at stock as higher clocked tripple channel X58 setups but if it does 3.6GHz on single apps (majority of tasks) along with this Braidwood tech. then you will have a very smooth overall computer experience. Now if the P57 will later support 32nm chips which I am sure it will then this will be an excellent mainstream system. The P57 is a ways off and may even come with USB3.0 and/or SATA3. I know it will have 12-14 USB ports though.
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Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: AnandTech Article - New Intel CPU's and chipsets coming! I could care less about P55/Lynnfield although it will be a great chipset/CPU. I am very satisfied with this X58 plus i7-920. It is so fast I don't think I need an SSD really. I run min. 3.33 to max. 3.65GHz depending on Turbo. CPU runs cool as well as the mobo. I mentioned before that I got my mobo, i7-920, and Corsair 3x2GB 1600 CL7 Dominators for the same price as a Lynnfield 3GHz CPU ($570.00). If somebody gave me a i7-975 I would sell it and keep my i7-920. I highly recommend getting this setup. With X58 you get more RAM and more CPU bandwidth and I bet you can setup a system for the same and even lower cost than a P55 if you try. Also the X58 is true 2x16PCIe whereas the P55 is 1x16, 1x8PCIe for Crossfire/SLI. The current Lynnfields might be equal or a little better in performance at equal clocks to Bloomfield but Intel will be coming out with 32nm CPU's for X58 next year and those should definitely put the X58 back on top again.
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09-09-2009, 01:17 PM	#75
GWillakers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 214	Re: AnandTech Article - New Intel CPU's and chipsets coming! In general I consider the X58 a better platform, but there is one Lynnfield processor that really caught my eye. The Intel Xeon 1.86Ghz L3246. Quad core, HT enabled with 8 MB L3. Two cores can ratchet up to 3.2GHz All within 45W TDP!!! This seems like the perfect do-everything solution. Rendering... you have your four cores. Gaming ... a snappy 3.2GHz on two. Quiet HTPC system.... hey not hard to cool 45W Business Reliability... ECC support Budget... $284 (US) For those who don't need two PCI express X16 graphics channels, this would be the way to go. I'm currently happy on a 17" monitor running a 7600 GS. I don't believe that taxes the bandwidth on the connection, and if I wanted to upgrade my graphics, I would probably go to a single 8800GT. Opinions? __________________ SuperMicro P4DC6+ Dual Pentium XEON 1.7GHz {I was thinking bandwidth, PCI-X, SCSI etc, Turned out to be louder than my electric razor. Taught me to pay attention to heat and noise. Intel D875PBZ-204 - P4/2.53GHz/1536K/533Mhz Rock solid system - the type where Intel makes you a believer - Vista Home Premium SP2 (32-bit) Compaq Presario SR5710FReplacement Toy computer when I dropped a brick of two hard drives on the old ASUS A8N VM/CSM motherboard - Replaced the 200W power supply with a 430W Antec - Added BFG GeForce 8400GS graphics card - Added a cage and 2nd Hard drive Intel D975XBX-305 E6600 SL9S8 2.4GHz/4MBL2/1067FSB/default Voltage Antec P180 case/Antec Phantom 500 PSU/AC cooler 7 Pro. Crucial DDR2 667 ECC 2x512MB SPD 5-5-5-15 / 2x WD 500GB / 1TB Seagate / 1 TB WD /PNY GeForce 7600 GS / Vista Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) installed
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