Bootable Usb Pen Drive How?

ZenmasteR · 05-10-2003, 02:10 PM

how would I create a USB pen drive so that I can boot and run memtest, formating and partition stuff?

I know what option to choose in the bios but dunno what to use for actual software

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ajm786_abx · 05-10-2003, 02:24 PM

ZenmasteR, are you able to get that USB pen drive booting off the IC7???

aNaBolic · 05-10-2003, 02:28 PM

Weird Coincidence,
I just bougt a 64mb Pen drive from Ebay for £20, I can get my P4C800 to try and boot from it, but Im having issues actually getting it to recognise any system on it. You cant format it as an MSDOS boot disk in XP(Thinks its a Removable Hard drive). I have copied bootable floppys to it but it still fails with unkown sysetm on boot.

Any help ??

aNaBolic

KingTermite · 05-10-2003, 02:45 PM

Just a guess, but "if" it is possible...my guess is there is a BIOS setting that needs to be set to fix it and get it working.

robzila · 05-10-2003, 04:47 PM

It's my understanding that the Phoenix BIOS boards (ASUS) cannot boot from a USB device, but the Award BIOS boards (ABIT) can. Please correct me if I am wrong.

mwave86 · 05-10-2003, 05:33 PM

Hi!

I could make 3 USB memory keys bootable from DOS.

You need some weird procedures like below.

1. Prepare a USB memory key and a DOS bootable floppy diskette.
(note: The DOS bootable floppy diskette must be a one that can use "format /s" command. A WinME system disk can't do this.)

2. Insert a USB memory key and a DOS bootable floppy diskette, and boot.

3. Enter the BIOS setup.

4. Go to "Advanced">"USB Configuration">"USB Mass Storage Device Configuration" section, and set your USB memory key's "Emulation Type" to "Hard Disk".

5. Go to "Exit" and "Exit & Save".

6. Boot from the DOS bootable floppy diskette, and format /s your USB memory key.
(note: Be sure to check the drive letter assigned to your USB memory key before formatting.)

7. Reboot and enter the BIOS setup.

8. Go to "Boot">"Removale Drives", and set the "1st Drive" to "[your USB memory key].

9. Go to "Exit" and "Exit & Save".

10. Remove the DOS bootable floppy diskette and reboot.

That's all.
Check if it works.

Good luck!

mwave86 · 05-10-2003, 06:21 PM

Whoops, I missed one thiing...

This could be done with P4C800 with AMI BIOS.
Perhaps most motherboards with Award BIOS can't boot from a USB device.

MarkZ2k · 05-10-2003, 09:01 PM

I did about the same thing, but left the USB config for the Pen drive at Auto, which treats anything below 520M as a floppy. Then boot off a 98 floppy, and do a SYS B:. The BIOS assigned it drive b: Too bad the F8 popup menu won't let you choose between multiple Removable devices. Everytime you remove the key, you have to go back into the Bios to configure the pen drive as the first removable device. I'm also using the P4C800 - for now. Don't know if it can be done with the Award/Phoenix used in the IC7(-G), but I hope so.

ZenmasteR · 05-11-2003, 12:21 AM

I have not had any luck in booting on IC7G
I copied some files from a floppy over but no luck

Artificial Kid · 05-11-2003, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZenmasteR
I have not had any luck in booting on IC7G
I copied some files from a floppy over but no luck

I briefly had an IC7-G and could not get it to boot from a bootable pen drive. Said Pen Drive boots just fine with the P4C800. I didnt have much time to test it but the IC7 actually would not boot with some USB devices attached. The P4c800 is much more friendly to USB devices at least when it comes to bootable ones.

robzila · 05-11-2003, 04:07 AM

I stand corrected. Perhaps I had it reversed. Thanks for straightening it out

johnnychangs · 05-11-2003, 04:46 AM

I GOT IT TO WORK!!!

On the IC7, I set the boot order to "USB-ZIP" and my USB pen drive booted right up.

I've got a 64MB "Pen Drive Plus 2.0". I copied the files from a boot floppy to it, then booted from a Win98 floppy and ran a "Sys B:". Rebooted and tried every boot option. Booted from USB after setting to "USB-ZIP".

Its fairly fast and is much bigger than a floppy. I copied all my DOS utlilties to it, like Paragon Partition Manager and some other stuff.

To create your own Bootable USB drive, Just go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and download the Win98SE image, then create a floppy. Copy the contents of the disk to the USB drive in Windows, then boot up with the floppy and type "SYS B:".

I'm still iffy about running a bios flash from this though....anyone have the balls to try it?

Cheers

MarkZ2k · 05-11-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnnychangs
I GOT IT TO WORK!!!

On the IC7, I set the boot order to "USB-ZIP" and my USB pen drive booted right up.
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I'm still iffy about running a bios flash from this though....anyone have the balls to try it?
Cheers

Cool, glad to hear it works on an IC7. I've flashed the BIOS from the pen drive on my P4C800 many times with no problems. That's one of the thing I wanted to use the pen drive for.

Does the IC7 have a boot menu you can select during boot? On the P4C800, you can hit F8 during boot, and it will let you pick between 3 devices to use for that boot. The older Asus boards with Award could do it too, just hit Esc several times during POST.

Underwater Mike · 05-11-2003, 04:52 PM

Don't have my board set up yet, but do you think this procedure would work with a USB CF/SD reader with a card inserted? Should be seen as another USB storage device, right?

ajm786_abx · 05-11-2003, 09:30 PM

johnnychangs, nice work bud!!! Now I truly can ditch my floppy!!!!

05-10-2003, 02:10 PM	#1
ZenmasteR ABXZONE EXPERT Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Posts: 316	Bootable Usb Pen Drive How? how would I create a USB pen drive so that I can boot and run memtest, formating and partition stuff? I know what option to choose in the bios but dunno what to use for actual software
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05-10-2003, 02:24 PM	#2
ajm786_abx ajm786 = ??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 4,220	ZenmasteR, are you able to get that USB pen drive booting off the IC7??? __________________ That's right. BITE me. Abit IC7 w/BIOS 24 * P4 2.6C @ 3.25 w/Zalman CNPS7000-Cu * Corsair TWINX1024-3200LLPT 1GB * Samsung SP1614C and SP0812C SATA; Toshiba SD-M1712; NEC ND-2510A * BFG 6800 OC* Intel PRO/100+ LAN; Audigy 2 ZS Platinum; WinTV Go * Antec 480W TruePower in CoolerMaster ATCS 201-SX * Viewsonic 19" P90f Flat, and WinXP Pro/SP2 * Natural Multimedia Keyboard and Logitech MX500 PC/HT audio setup: Cambridge MC50 center, Athena AS-B1 mains, Megaworks 510D sub, Sonance Mariner 100 rear; connected to Onkyo TX-SR500 via Audigy 5.1 multichannel
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05-10-2003, 02:28 PM	#3
aNaBolic Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 66	Weird Coincidence, I just bougt a 64mb Pen drive from Ebay for £20, I can get my P4C800 to try and boot from it, but Im having issues actually getting it to recognise any system on it. You cant format it as an MSDOS boot disk in XP(Thinks its a Removable Hard drive). I have copied bootable floppys to it but it still fails with unkown sysetm on boot. Any help ?? aNaBolic __________________ Abit IC7-G (1.5b) P4 3Ghz/800@3.9 - Vapo PE 2 x 256 XMS3500 2 x WD Raptor RAID 0 Sapphire Atlantis 9800Pro(Cat 3.4)@531/387 - Swifty MCW50-T 80W TEC ^aNaBolic^ Xtremesystems.org - Home of the highest scores on the planet 3DM2003 (3.20) : 7648 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=922431 3DM2003 (3.30) : 7578 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=939374 3DM2001 : 25742 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6715798
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05-10-2003, 02:45 PM	#4
KingTermite The Shade of Lazarus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PM me to keep in contact Posts: 26,003	Just a guess, but "if" it is possible...my guess is there is a BIOS setting that needs to be set to fix it and get it working. __________________ Bye Bye ABXZone.....Rest In Peace.
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05-10-2003, 04:47 PM	#5
robzila Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 36	It's my understanding that the Phoenix BIOS boards (ASUS) cannot boot from a USB device, but the Award BIOS boards (ABIT) can. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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05-10-2003, 05:33 PM	#6
mwave86 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4	Hi! I could make 3 USB memory keys bootable from DOS. You need some weird procedures like below. 1. Prepare a USB memory key and a DOS bootable floppy diskette. (note: The DOS bootable floppy diskette must be a one that can use "format /s" command. A WinME system disk can't do this.) 2. Insert a USB memory key and a DOS bootable floppy diskette, and boot. 3. Enter the BIOS setup. 4. Go to "Advanced">"USB Configuration">"USB Mass Storage Device Configuration" section, and set your USB memory key's "Emulation Type" to "Hard Disk". 5. Go to "Exit" and "Exit & Save". 6. Boot from the DOS bootable floppy diskette, and format /s your USB memory key. (note: Be sure to check the drive letter assigned to your USB memory key before formatting.) 7. Reboot and enter the BIOS setup. 8. Go to "Boot">"Removale Drives", and set the "1st Drive" to "[your USB memory key]. 9. Go to "Exit" and "Exit & Save". 10. Remove the DOS bootable floppy diskette and reboot. That's all. Check if it works. Good luck!
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05-10-2003, 06:21 PM	#7
mwave86 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4	Whoops, I missed one thiing... This could be done with P4C800 with AMI BIOS. Perhaps most motherboards with Award BIOS can't boot from a USB device.
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05-10-2003, 09:01 PM	#8
MarkZ2k Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 52	I did about the same thing, but left the USB config for the Pen drive at Auto, which treats anything below 520M as a floppy. Then boot off a 98 floppy, and do a SYS B:. The BIOS assigned it drive b: Too bad the F8 popup menu won't let you choose between multiple Removable devices. Everytime you remove the key, you have to go back into the Bios to configure the pen drive as the first removable device. I'm also using the P4C800 - for now. Don't know if it can be done with the Award/Phoenix used in the IC7(-G), but I hope so. __________________ Asus P4C800-E "Deluxe" P4 2.4A (@192FSB) 2 x 512M OCZ PC-3200 Platinum NEC ND-3500 WD 2500JD WD 2500JB Antec Plus660 case/TruePower 330 SCEPTRE 19" LCD ATI AIW-9800 Logitech MX700 MS Internet K/B Pro Canon Pixma 3000
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05-11-2003, 12:21 AM	#9
ZenmasteR ABXZONE EXPERT Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Posts: 316	I have not had any luck in booting on IC7G I copied some files from a floppy over but no luck
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05-11-2003, 04:07 AM	#11
robzila Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 36	I stand corrected. Perhaps I had it reversed. Thanks for straightening it out
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05-11-2003, 04:46 AM	#12
johnnychangs IT Dojo Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 136	I GOT IT TO WORK!!! On the IC7, I set the boot order to "USB-ZIP" and my USB pen drive booted right up. I've got a 64MB "Pen Drive Plus 2.0". I copied the files from a boot floppy to it, then booted from a Win98 floppy and ran a "Sys B:". Rebooted and tried every boot option. Booted from USB after setting to "USB-ZIP". Its fairly fast and is much bigger than a floppy. I copied all my DOS utlilties to it, like Paragon Partition Manager and some other stuff. To create your own Bootable USB drive, Just go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and download the Win98SE image, then create a floppy. Copy the contents of the disk to the USB drive in Windows, then boot up with the floppy and type "SYS B:". I'm still iffy about running a bios flash from this though....anyone have the balls to try it? Cheers __________________ Abit IC7(.13 Bios) P4 3Ghz 800 - Zalman CPNS-7000-Cu 2x512MB Geil PC3500 Ultra Platinum Hercules 3D Prophet 9700Pro (330gpu/330m) SB Audigy 2 Vantec Stealth 520w PSU Lite-on 52x/24x/52x 150GB Seagate SATA-RAID 1x80GB Maxtor ATA133 2x40GB IBM ATA100 Coolermaster ATC-201 Aluminum Case Windows XP Pro/Windows Server 2003 Std Last edited by johnnychangs; 05-11-2003 at 02:17 PM..
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05-11-2003, 04:52 PM	#14
Underwater Mike Thoroughly water-cooled Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere, beyond the sea Posts: 2,606	Don't have my board set up yet, but do you think this procedure would work with a USB CF/SD reader with a card inserted? Should be seen as another USB storage device, right?
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05-11-2003, 09:30 PM	#15
ajm786_abx ajm786 = ??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 4,220	johnnychangs, nice work bud!!! Now I truly can ditch my floppy!!!! __________________ That's right. BITE me. Abit IC7 w/BIOS 24 * P4 2.6C @ 3.25 w/Zalman CNPS7000-Cu * Corsair TWINX1024-3200LLPT 1GB * Samsung SP1614C and SP0812C SATA; Toshiba SD-M1712; NEC ND-2510A * BFG 6800 OC* Intel PRO/100+ LAN; Audigy 2 ZS Platinum; WinTV Go * Antec 480W TruePower in CoolerMaster ATCS 201-SX * Viewsonic 19" P90f Flat, and WinXP Pro/SP2 * Natural Multimedia Keyboard and Logitech MX500 PC/HT audio setup: Cambridge MC50 center, Athena AS-B1 mains, Megaworks 510D sub, Sonance Mariner 100 rear; connected to Onkyo TX-SR500 via Audigy 5.1 multichannel
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