which CUSL2 mainboard to get??

capridude · 08-10-2001, 09:37 AM

Hi all-

This is my first attempt to assemble a computer.
It is to be used for video movie processing ONLY,
with a Pinnacle capture card, later a Matrox.
The CUSL2 board is definitely the one to get, but
which one??? There's a plain version, a -C, an
-M, and an -LS version out there too, maybe more?
Which board would you all suggest? I find the
different board versions really puzzling!

Many thanks, Jeff

StarTraveller · 08-10-2001, 10:41 AM

Hi Jeff,
Welcome to the forums

You might wanna include the TUSL2-C on your list of options.

AFAIK, the only differences between TUSL2-C and CUSL2-C are the support for Tualatins (of course), the chipset stepping (TUSL2-C uses 815EP B-stepping) and the optional onboard audio (TUSL2-C offers 6-channel audio). So by choosing this board you can pick whatever Socket370 CPU you want and those Tualatins do look nice

.

Even if you just go with the Coppermine now, you could still upgrade later when the Tualatins drop in price and increase in speed

. That is IF Intel permits that

...

You probably don't need the onboard graphics on the CUSL2 and I don't know who other than OEMs are interested in the MicroATX form factor (CUSL2-M).

BTW, where did you see a CUSL2-LS? I wasn't able to find that model on ASUS' website...

- StarTraveller

samlwl · 08-10-2001, 02:21 PM

here's ur link for CUSL2-LS, ST

http://www.asus.com.tw/products/moth...mpro/cusl2-ls/

rdmpe · 08-10-2001, 02:32 PM

This may or may not matter to you, but I think that some portion of the cusl2-c have a faulty monitoring system (for the voltages, temperatures, fan rpms, etc.). A small group of users here (myself included) have found that the use of any hardware monitoring program (such as motherboard monitor or asus probe) for more than a couple of minutes results in corrupted monitor data (all rpms and voltages say zero, cpu temp says 25C, other temps say zero) and then the system hangs at shut down and must be turned off via the power switch. This is only really annoying for those who want to really push or overclock, as monitoring temperatures is important then. Just something to be aware of...

I seem to recall that the TUSL2-C does not provide the ability to change the cpu core voltage. I'm not positive about that though.

swannema · 08-10-2001, 02:40 PM

The TUSL2-C only has the voltage limitations with the new Tualatin Chips not with the PIII.
That's the one I would buy.

**SKI** · 08-11-2001, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capridude
This is my first attempt to assemble a computer.
It is to be used for video movie processing ONLY,
with a Pinnacle capture card, later a Matrox.

2 quick thoughts:

1. Jeff said this will be his first build. While some excellent arguments have been made for TUSL2, I think that for a "1st build", CUSL2-C is more appropriate. Why, you ask? Because we've been "wringing out" this mobo for a while now. Thus, we have a wealth of info on CUSL2's, their quirks, hardware compatability, setup, etc. available here for Jeffs assistance. Also, some of the members here have a LOT of hard-won troubleshooting skills with CUSL2. TUSL2 being relatively new is good from a "latest & greatest" standpoint: it is also a relatively unknown quantity in real-world terms.

2. Jeff wants to do "video movie processing ONLY,
with a Pinnacle capture card, later a Matrox.". The CUSL2-C being available with no on-board audio or video, Jeff can choose the best components for his specific needs. We all know about the limitations of "on-board"...'nuff said. (at least 'till N-Force comes out

)

Jeff is best able to asess his skills and his "comfort level" with new stuff, of course. Just my $0.02

Silverwings · 08-13-2001, 02:50 AM

The CUSL2-C would be an excellent choice for Jeff.
It doesn't come with a graphics chip but it does have the onboard AC97 Audio as an user option. Editing Video also requires sound editing and the onboard Audio chip just wont cut it and there fore would not be used. There is a wide range of excellent Audio apps and sound boards available that would be used instead.

dav · 08-13-2001, 09:19 AM

Hi I would go for the Cusl2 as I have one and can o/c above 140 without any AGP 4x loss that is reported by CUSL2c owners-no need for patch file as CUSL2c users on this site all seem to need.......
If you are mainly doing movies it might be better to go for a p4
however,this is the only area P4 is any better than P3 ie rendering(oops and games open GL)
Good Luck

David Lawley

SANJlYAN · 08-13-2001, 03:00 PM

Same exact hardware as CUSL2-C... with the exception of the Tualatin support. I upgraded to it from a CUSL2-C, and I can honestly say that it was just as easy to setup and install an OS onto as it's predecessor. The 1009 bios fixes the IRQ sharing "issue" with Win2K, and I haven't had a single problem with my Win98, ME, or Linux partitions whatsoever.

One point of concern is that ALL the PCI slots are shared on the TUSL2-C, whereas with the CUSL2-C you get 2 or 3 that have exclusive resources. It hasn't caused me any problems at all with my Soundblaster Live! and 3Com NIC, but if you have alot of PCI cards it could be an issue.

All in all, I would say go with the TUSL2-C if you're planning on sticking with the PIII for a while. If you're planning a big jump up to a P4 or a new Athlon, then go with the CUSL2-C. You can't go wrong with either one.

Kai

Zbone · 08-13-2001, 09:06 PM

I own a Cusl2, Cusl2-C, Cusl2-C BP and the new Tusl2-C. All of them awesome boards. You really can't go wrong. The Tusl2-C has the greatest potential for upgrading though. I have 4 expansion cards including my AGP card and never had any trouble installing them from one board to the next. PCI slots 2, 3 and 6 have worked flawlessly throughout all 4 motherboards. Besides, they're all priced about the same so you might as well go with the one with the most potential.

Silverwings · 08-14-2001, 02:27 AM

There is one item that you must concider here. Video capture boards do not like over clocked PCI bus's. Espicially the Pinnacle card. I know. I use that one myself.

Musaki · 08-18-2001, 04:51 PM

Im using a CUSL2-LS here and i must say --> It rocks ! with a Atlas 10KII 10000rpm U160 8megs cache (a bit loud and hot though) humm imagine what it would be with a Cheetah X15 !

O/C pretty well i must say through the scsi card dont like it much so i run at 150/150 with a PIII 800 and 2 x 256Rev2 2-2-2 5/7.

capridude · 08-18-2001, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Musaki
Im using a CUSL2-LS here and i must say --> It rocks ! with a Atlas 10KII 10000rpm U160 8megs cache (a bit loud and hot though) humm imagine what it would be with a Cheetah X15 !

O/C pretty well i must say through the scsi card dont like it much so i run at 150/150 with a PIII 800 and 2 x 256Rev2 2-2-2 5/7.

-----------------------------------------------
Hey Guys-- I did buy an Asus CUSL2-c board!
The system is complete and operational, and has
just a few bugs to work out. So far the video
editing seems to work without crashing or anything
bad to this date.
Though the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card does seem to
have slight problem- On the start up screen I see
"SCSI BIOS not installed" even though the lone
SCSI device works great. I'll have to look it up
in the System file......
Many thanks to ALL of you who answered my
questions!!!

Cheers, JT

Musaki · 08-19-2001, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by capridude

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Hey Guys-- I did buy an Asus CUSL2-c board!
The system is complete and operational, and has
just a few bugs to work out. So far the video
editing seems to work without crashing or anything
bad to this date.
Though the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card does seem to
have slight problem- On the start up screen I see
"SCSI BIOS not installed" even though the lone
SCSI device works great. I'll have to look it up
in the System file......
Many thanks to ALL of you who answered my
questions!!!

Cheers, JT

Cool im happy for you

hope it will do the job for long time.
For the "SCSI BIOS not installed" msg you got it's because your not using any SCSI HD.

View Poll Results: For video movie capture/processing, which board model works best?
plain jane CUSL2	2	18.18%
CUSL2-M	0	0%
CUSL2-C	9	81.82%
CUSL2-LS	0	0%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

08-10-2001, 09:37 AM	#1
capridude Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 4	which CUSL2 mainboard to get?? Hi all- This is my first attempt to assemble a computer. It is to be used for video movie processing ONLY, with a Pinnacle capture card, later a Matrox. The CUSL2 board is definitely the one to get, but which one??? There's a plain version, a -C, an -M, and an -LS version out there too, maybe more? Which board would you all suggest? I find the different board versions really puzzling! Many thanks, Jeff
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08-10-2001, 10:41 AM	#2
StarTraveller Retired Modder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cloud Nine Posts: 6,494	Hi Jeff, Welcome to the forums You might wanna include the TUSL2-C on your list of options. AFAIK, the only differences between TUSL2-C and CUSL2-C are the support for Tualatins (of course), the chipset stepping (TUSL2-C uses 815EP B-stepping) and the optional onboard audio (TUSL2-C offers 6-channel audio). So by choosing this board you can pick whatever Socket370 CPU you want and those Tualatins do look nice . Even if you just go with the Coppermine now, you could still upgrade later when the Tualatins drop in price and increase in speed . That is IF Intel permits that ... You probably don't need the onboard graphics on the CUSL2 and I don't know who other than OEMs are interested in the MicroATX form factor (CUSL2-M). BTW, where did you see a CUSL2-LS? I wasn't able to find that model on ASUS' website... - StarTraveller __________________ MSc at last! Read all about my highly acclaimed thesis (in Danish) about a method for evaluating teaching. An English version of the web site is also available. StarTraveller.net - see Computers for current setup! Well, it used to be current... Right now, my primary computer is a ThinkPad T43p 2668-H7U upgraded to 2 GB RAM Motto: If it is worth doing then it is worth doing right! Caution: The light at the end of a tunnel may be an oncoming train...
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08-10-2001, 02:21 PM	#3
samlwl Folding@Home Team ABXZone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the Fold! Posts: 2,122	here's ur link for CUSL2-LS, ST http://www.asus.com.tw/products/moth...mpro/cusl2-ls/
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08-10-2001, 02:32 PM	#4
rdmpe A sandwich in every glass Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,610	This may or may not matter to you, but I think that some portion of the cusl2-c have a faulty monitoring system (for the voltages, temperatures, fan rpms, etc.). A small group of users here (myself included) have found that the use of any hardware monitoring program (such as motherboard monitor or asus probe) for more than a couple of minutes results in corrupted monitor data (all rpms and voltages say zero, cpu temp says 25C, other temps say zero) and then the system hangs at shut down and must be turned off via the power switch. This is only really annoying for those who want to really push or overclock, as monitoring temperatures is important then. Just something to be aware of... I seem to recall that the TUSL2-C does not provide the ability to change the cpu core voltage. I'm not positive about that though. __________________ Check out my auctions!
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08-10-2001, 02:40 PM	#5
swannema ???????????????? Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 9,630	The TUSL2-C only has the voltage limitations with the new Tualatin Chips not with the PIII. That's the one I would buy.
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08-13-2001, 02:50 AM	#7
Silverwings Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Green Cove Springs Florida Posts: 135	The CUSL2-C would be an excellent choice for Jeff. It doesn't come with a graphics chip but it does have the onboard AC97 Audio as an user option. Editing Video also requires sound editing and the onboard Audio chip just wont cut it and there fore would not be used. There is a wide range of excellent Audio apps and sound boards available that would be used instead. __________________ Raymond an ol Scott of the Armstrongs TUSL2-C 1011twk BIOS Tualatin 1.13@1351 512 megs Mushkin Rev3+ 4 80JB(SE) WD HD's Promise Fast Track TX4 Raid O TDK 48X, Kenwood 72X Philips 228 DVD+/-RW/R, 16XDVD Pinnacle DV500, SB Audigy 2 Pinnacle IE1394's DV/DV-AV Visionteck G3 (3DMark2001: 7634) with lots of fans and other stuff
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08-13-2001, 09:19 AM	#8
dav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 96	Hi I would go for the Cusl2 as I have one and can o/c above 140 without any AGP 4x loss that is reported by CUSL2c owners-no need for patch file as CUSL2c users on this site all seem to need....... If you are mainly doing movies it might be better to go for a p4 however,this is the only area P4 is any better than P3 ie rendering(oops and games open GL) Good Luck David Lawley
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08-13-2001, 03:00 PM	#9
SANJlYAN Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 7	I can vouch for the TUSL2-C... Same exact hardware as CUSL2-C... with the exception of the Tualatin support. I upgraded to it from a CUSL2-C, and I can honestly say that it was just as easy to setup and install an OS onto as it's predecessor. The 1009 bios fixes the IRQ sharing "issue" with Win2K, and I haven't had a single problem with my Win98, ME, or Linux partitions whatsoever. One point of concern is that ALL the PCI slots are shared on the TUSL2-C, whereas with the CUSL2-C you get 2 or 3 that have exclusive resources. It hasn't caused me any problems at all with my Soundblaster Live! and 3Com NIC, but if you have alot of PCI cards it could be an issue. All in all, I would say go with the TUSL2-C if you're planning on sticking with the PIII for a while. If you're planning a big jump up to a P4 or a new Athlon, then go with the CUSL2-C. You can't go wrong with either one. Kai
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08-13-2001, 09:06 PM	#10
Zbone PC Fanatic Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA, WISCONSIN Posts: 229	I own a Cusl2, Cusl2-C, Cusl2-C BP and the new Tusl2-C. All of them awesome boards. You really can't go wrong. The Tusl2-C has the greatest potential for upgrading though. I have 4 expansion cards including my AGP card and never had any trouble installing them from one board to the next. PCI slots 2, 3 and 6 have worked flawlessly throughout all 4 motherboards. Besides, they're all priced about the same so you might as well go with the one with the most potential. __________________ Asus P4C800 Deluxe (Bios v.1014) Intel P4 3.0c 800fsb currently @221fsb 3.315Ghz Cooler Master IHC-H71 Everest HSF 1024megs (2x512mb) OCZ PC3500 Ltd. Edition memory @2-2-3-6 1:1 70Gig HDD (2x36.7Gig Raptor 10,000rpm SATA in RAID 0) BFG Geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256meg 500/900 Sblaster Audigy2 with Promedia GMX DD5.1 Logitech MX300 Mouse Yamaha CRW-F1 CD-R/RW Pioneer 16x DVD Antec TruePower 550 PSU Windows XP Pro
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08-14-2001, 02:27 AM	#11
Silverwings Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Green Cove Springs Florida Posts: 135	Important concideration There is one item that you must concider here. Video capture boards do not like over clocked PCI bus's. Espicially the Pinnacle card. I know. I use that one myself. __________________ Raymond an ol Scott of the Armstrongs TUSL2-C 1011twk BIOS Tualatin 1.13@1351 512 megs Mushkin Rev3+ 4 80JB(SE) WD HD's Promise Fast Track TX4 Raid O TDK 48X, Kenwood 72X Philips 228 DVD+/-RW/R, 16XDVD Pinnacle DV500, SB Audigy 2 Pinnacle IE1394's DV/DV-AV Visionteck G3 (3DMark2001: 7634) with lots of fans and other stuff
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08-18-2001, 04:51 PM	#12
Musaki GOA Freak !!! ;-) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: QC, CA Posts: 62	Im using a CUSL2-LS here and i must say --> It rocks ! with a Atlas 10KII 10000rpm U160 8megs cache (a bit loud and hot though) humm imagine what it would be with a Cheetah X15 ! O/C pretty well i must say through the scsi card dont like it much so i run at 150/150 with a PIII 800 and 2 x 256Rev2 2-2-2 5/7.
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