I give up - Page 2

pointreyes · 09-08-2003, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kONGO
Registered memory and ECC memory are two different things. There is non-registered ECC memory.

-kONGO

Yeah, I know.

Stinkin' Canterwood chipset board uses unbuffered ECC (PC3200) whereas my AMD760 chipset board is using buffered registered ECC (PC2100). Sometimes I really hate AMD and Intel.

Why does the stupid Canterwoods require unbuffered RAM?

---------------------------------------------Upon further checking:
Note: I just double-checked Crucial's site and the RAM I have in my Canterwood will work in my AMD760. This means that I can upgrade to an Opteron; however, I will be using only PC2100 RAM. If this link works it shows both types of ECC RAM I have works on the AMD760.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...MPX2&submit=Go

Current RAM in MPX2: http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpe...72Y265&cat=RAM
Current RAM in Gigabyte 8KNXP: http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpe...72Z40B&cat=RAM

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 10:50 AM

Well I called in sick to work today to see if I could fix these problems I'm having. Its driving me nuts! I woke up this morning and turning on the computer and it got to the windows xp splash screen then rebooted loaded again to the splash screen then rebooted again. Then I got the fans powering in and everything in my system powering on but a black screen. I hit the reset button and it finally made it into windows xp desktop. I'm going to take the motherboard out of the computer case and power it up and see if that helps. Then I'm going to try another power supply, I have an old antec 400 watt one. So begins the great debugging game today :-) I'll keep you updated....

Falcon26

CrocHammer · 09-08-2003, 11:10 AM

Eliminating the reset button by disconnecting it at the board would help. I have a power on switch pulled out of an old Compactto start up a board outside the box. Hope you are comfortable just jumping the PWR pegs to start it up.

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 11:17 AM

Ok did what you said about unchecking the restart thing in advanced options and then I rebooted and I got the following blue screen:

Bad_Pool_Caller
Stop : 0x000000C2 ( ox00000041, ox864EE000, ox000064EE, ox0003ffzf

Ok so what the heck does "Bad_Pool_Caller" mean?

Anyone Falcon26

Lars A · 09-08-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcon26
Ok did what you said about unchecking the restart thing in advanced options and then I rebooted and I got the following blue screen:

Bad_Pool_Caller
Stop : 0x000000C2 ( ox00000041, ox864EE000, ox000064EE, ox0003ffzf

Ok so what the heck does "Bad_Pool_Caller" mean?

Anyone Falcon26

http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1

Sounds like u have a faulty mobo. Running it outside the case is a good idea. Turn it upside down and shake it for metal scrap to fall off. Could come from badly done screwholes etc. They like to find their resting places between legs of small IC's. Who doesnt want to rest between legs? (well if theyre female, that is...)

Lars A

CrocHammer · 09-08-2003, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Ok did what you said about unchecking the restart thing in advanced options and then I rebooted and I got the following blue screen:

Where did that come from?

Sorry no idea what the message means Falcon.

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 11:48 AM

Ok Just for the heck of it I unplugged my 2 120 mm Vantec Stealth fans. Both were plugged into the MB, via the Front Fan 3 pin plug and the Rear 3 pin Fan plug. I have start the computer a few times and no problem and I have also restarted the computer a few times no problem. I wonder if it could be the vantec 120 mm fans? I am going to start and reboot my computer a few times and see what happens.....

Falcon26

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 12:14 PM

Well it worked for a while then I got the Bad_Pool_caller thing again. I took out my audigy 2 sound card that didn't help. Now I changed my keyboard and mouse from a logitech USB keyboard and mouse to a microsoft usb mouse and a microsoft PS2 keyboard lets see how this does.....

Falcon26

JoeBar · 09-08-2003, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrocHammer
Where did that come from?

Sorry no idea what the message means Falcon.

There is an option for windows not automatically restarting when they find an error. U can find it in: my computer-properties> advanced- startup and recovery> settings> uncheck automatically restart.

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 12:35 PM

I'm running a hard drive check, but so far that seems ok too. I was wondering if maybe the On-Board Lan might be a problem, I am going to put in a nic card and see what happens....

Falcon26

StefanPI · 09-08-2003, 12:43 PM

Hi, i did some searches on the web and:

"The Stop 0xC2 error message indicates that a kernel-mode process or driver incorrectly attempted to perform a memory operation. This error message is typically caused by a faulty device driver or software"

"Parameter 1 = 0x41 : Attempt to free a non-allocated nonpaged pool address

Parameter 2 = Starting address
Parameter 3 = physical page frame
Parameter 4 = highest physical page frame"

So it looks like one of your drivers is trying to free non-allocated memory. To see what driver it is see if you got a minidump file in c:\windows\minidump and read this article it will help you interpret the minidump file: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;315263.

Here is a small article on what pool memory is and how it works in XP: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1156058,00.asp.

There is also a possibility this could be a hardware error.

CrocHammer · 09-08-2003, 12:45 PM

For starters I would not have case fans plugged into the mobo headers at all, let alone 120mm fans. Check the wattage specs on the Vantecs and see what they say. I have NO fans plugged into the motherboard at all.

I thought you were going to try and diagnose by taking the board out of the case and eliminate the possibility of a bad power or reset switch?

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 01:12 PM

Well I tried the reset switch as well as the power switch no go. I just now plugged in my old Antec 400 watt PSU, and my 12V rail went from 11.7 to 12.1 I wonder if I didn't have enough power on my 12V rail........will continue to look at the power supply...

falcon26

pointreyes · 09-08-2003, 01:26 PM

Once I installed my Audigy 2 drivers I got the bsod regarding faulty drivers. If you installed the Intel Accel. software before installing the Audigy 2 drivers this could cause the bsod. Just by removing the Audigy 2 from the board cannot fix the bsod because the drivers are still going to try to load.

falcon26 · 09-08-2003, 01:43 PM

Well I pulled the auidgy 2 card out and it still did it. But now I have unplugged my network cable and disabled the on board lan. I have restarted my computer about 20 times it hasn't BOSD once. Could a bad cable or on board lan be the problem? Should I try another drive for the on board lan?

Falcon26

09-08-2003, 10:50 AM	#17
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Called in Sick Well I called in sick to work today to see if I could fix these problems I'm having. Its driving me nuts! I woke up this morning and turning on the computer and it got to the windows xp splash screen then rebooted loaded again to the splash screen then rebooted again. Then I got the fans powering in and everything in my system powering on but a black screen. I hit the reset button and it finally made it into windows xp desktop. I'm going to take the motherboard out of the computer case and power it up and see if that helps. Then I'm going to try another power supply, I have an old antec 400 watt one. So begins the great debugging game today :-) I'll keep you updated.... Falcon26
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09-08-2003, 11:10 AM	#18
CrocHammer Croc - OlderOvercrocker Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 1,340	Eliminating the reset button by disconnecting it at the board would help. I have a power on switch pulled out of an old Compactto start up a board outside the box. Hope you are comfortable just jumping the PWR pegs to start it up. __________________ C2D6600 on Asus P5B Deluxe with ArcticCooling Pro7 heatsink fan EVGA 8800GTS with Samsung 226BW 4 x 1024 Mushkin HP2-6400 1XS. Barracuda 640 gig 7200.11 2 x S. Barracuda 320 gig 7200.10 in RAID O LG sATA DVD/RW Logitech G5 Laser mouse & G11 keyboard Corsair HX-520 watt modular PSU Lian-li PC60U -updated mod & lighting 4 x 80mm inlet and 2 x 80mm exit fans on Hexus fan controller
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09-08-2003, 11:17 AM	#19
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Unchecking Ok did what you said about unchecking the restart thing in advanced options and then I rebooted and I got the following blue screen: Bad_Pool_Caller Stop : 0x000000C2 ( ox00000041, ox864EE000, ox000064EE, ox0003ffzf Ok so what the heck does "Bad_Pool_Caller" mean? Anyone Falcon26
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09-08-2003, 11:48 AM	#22
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Weird Ok Just for the heck of it I unplugged my 2 120 mm Vantec Stealth fans. Both were plugged into the MB, via the Front Fan 3 pin plug and the Rear 3 pin Fan plug. I have start the computer a few times and no problem and I have also restarted the computer a few times no problem. I wonder if it could be the vantec 120 mm fans? I am going to start and reboot my computer a few times and see what happens..... Falcon26
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09-08-2003, 12:14 PM	#23
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Dam Well it worked for a while then I got the Bad_Pool_caller thing again. I took out my audigy 2 sound card that didn't help. Now I changed my keyboard and mouse from a logitech USB keyboard and mouse to a microsoft usb mouse and a microsoft PS2 keyboard lets see how this does..... Falcon26
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09-08-2003, 12:35 PM	#25
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Running I'm running a hard drive check, but so far that seems ok too. I was wondering if maybe the On-Board Lan might be a problem, I am going to put in a nic card and see what happens.... Falcon26
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09-08-2003, 12:43 PM	#26
StefanPI Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 567	Hi, i did some searches on the web and: "The Stop 0xC2 error message indicates that a kernel-mode process or driver incorrectly attempted to perform a memory operation. This error message is typically caused by a faulty device driver or software" "Parameter 1 = 0x41 : Attempt to free a non-allocated nonpaged pool address Parameter 2 = Starting address Parameter 3 = physical page frame Parameter 4 = highest physical page frame" So it looks like one of your drivers is trying to free non-allocated memory. To see what driver it is see if you got a minidump file in c:\windows\minidump and read this article it will help you interpret the minidump file: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;315263. Here is a small article on what pool memory is and how it works in XP: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1156058,00.asp. There is also a possibility this could be a hardware error. __________________ Chaintech 9PJL3 (865PE-ICH5) 2x512MB Geil Ultra PC3200 (2-3-3-6) Intel P4 2.8C PC Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 80GB ZyXEL Prestige 645MP-A1 Adsl-modem Yes i know, the little maggots are stomping all over my big Panzer IV tank. Last edited by StefanPI; 09-08-2003 at 01:01 PM..
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09-08-2003, 12:45 PM	#27
CrocHammer Croc - OlderOvercrocker Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 1,340	For starters I would not have case fans plugged into the mobo headers at all, let alone 120mm fans. Check the wattage specs on the Vantecs and see what they say. I have NO fans plugged into the motherboard at all. I thought you were going to try and diagnose by taking the board out of the case and eliminate the possibility of a bad power or reset switch? __________________ C2D6600 on Asus P5B Deluxe with ArcticCooling Pro7 heatsink fan EVGA 8800GTS with Samsung 226BW 4 x 1024 Mushkin HP2-6400 1XS. Barracuda 640 gig 7200.11 2 x S. Barracuda 320 gig 7200.10 in RAID O LG sATA DVD/RW Logitech G5 Laser mouse & G11 keyboard Corsair HX-520 watt modular PSU Lian-li PC60U -updated mod & lighting 4 x 80mm inlet and 2 x 80mm exit fans on Hexus fan controller
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09-08-2003, 01:12 PM	#28
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Well Well I tried the reset switch as well as the power switch no go. I just now plugged in my old Antec 400 watt PSU, and my 12V rail went from 11.7 to 12.1 I wonder if I didn't have enough power on my 12V rail........will continue to look at the power supply... falcon26
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09-08-2003, 01:26 PM	#29
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	Once I installed my Audigy 2 drivers I got the bsod regarding faulty drivers. If you installed the Intel Accel. software before installing the Audigy 2 drivers this could cause the bsod. Just by removing the Audigy 2 from the board cannot fix the bsod because the drivers are still going to try to load.
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09-08-2003, 01:43 PM	#30
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Tried Well I pulled the auidgy 2 card out and it still did it. But now I have unplugged my network cable and disabled the on board lan. I have restarted my computer about 20 times it hasn't BOSD once. Could a bad cable or on board lan be the problem? Should I try another drive for the on board lan? Falcon26
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