Intel D875PBZLK

[Crasher]

Originally posted by David Rolfe
Hi Crasher,

Nothing suitable unfortunately! Before starting I updated the BIOS to the latest P22.

Out of interest,where actually is the sensor which records the CPU temperature?... on the motherboard itself presumably... or is it part of the HS/CPU assembly?

Providing that the HS, which is only really a 'lump' of aluminium and copper is firmly clamped onto the top of a clean CPU... which AFAIK it is, and the standard Intel fan is spinning at an appropriate speed, I can't really see where anything can go wrong, but as we all know in the magical world of computers, nothing is rarely as simple or logical as it first seems!

If the temperature really was 90 I would have thought I would have experienced major problems in even trying to run XP... or anything else for that matter.

-David-

Honestly I have no clue where the CPU sensor might be at. I guess is on the CPU socket area of the board. Try to touch the HSF as like Cole said you'll noticed if is hot. My PC normally runs around 44C load and I can feel the heatsink is warm after a few minutes on load temperature. 90C sounds crazy for a CPU, and like you said it wouldn't even let you get logon screen on XP. I thought when I first saw your post, it might be 90F but there's no option on the BIOS that let you change between F and C. I would try to flash the BIOS to a different version and see what temps you get. Who knows if you board didn't like the BIOS at the first flash

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[BillC]

Originally posted by David Rolfe
Hi Crasher,

Nothing suitable unfortunately! Before starting I updated the BIOS to the latest P22.

Out of interest,where actually is the sensor which records the CPU temperature?... on the motherboard itself presumably... or is it part of the HS/CPU assembly?

Providing that the HS, which is only really a 'lump' of aluminium and copper is firmly clamped onto the top of a clean CPU... which AFAIK it is, and the standard Intel fan is spinning at an appropriate speed, I can't really see where anything can go wrong, but as we all know in the magical world of computers, nothing is rarely as simple or logical as it first seems!

If the temperature really was 90 I would have thought I would have experienced major problems in even trying to run XP... or anything else for that matter.

-David-

90c is 194F. Ain't no way that your CPU is even close to that. The thermal throttling of the P4 would shelve it back long before it reached that point. Besides that, you wouldn't even be able to boot at that temp. My guess is that you have a wayward sensor. Wish I had more to offer, but that's the most likely culprit.

Best,
Bill

[Crasher]

Originally posted by USA_Boy
And here is my awesome Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Cooler.. Enjoy

Looks pretty cool!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cole_abx]

Originally posted by USA_Boy
Here is my IDCC stress test results.

Go in to the options and change the usage levels on the CPU up to 100% and then run it for 2 hrs and see how you do.

But if you do do this dont leave it un-attended so you can keep any eye on your CPU temp and if it gets up to 59c or 60c stop the test so you dont hurt nothing.


It is good to do this to a new system for a few hours and give things a chance to warm up a little bit and this way you will be able to detect a bad piece of hardware before you get to far down the road and end up losing important stuff when something fail's. If it is gonna fail make it fail right from the beginning by stress testing (for more than 15 min) that aint even long enough for your system to even feel its doing anything at all hardly and if the stress testing doesnt find a bad piece of hardware for you after 3-4 hrs at least then you would be safe to assume you may not have any faulty Hardware.


This is just my opnion on things and Im sure others have their methods for new builds and what they like to put them through before they are satisfied with things.

Coleski

[Crasher]

Originally posted by Cole
Go in to the options and change the usage levels on the CPU up to 100% and then run it for 2 hrs and see how you do.

But if you do do this dont leave it un-attended so you can keep any eye on your CPU temp and if it gets up to 59c or 60c stop the test so you dont hurt nothing.


It is good to do this to a new system for a few hours and give things a chance to warm up a little bit and this way you will be able to detect a bad piece of hardware before you get to far down the road and end up losing important stuff when something fail's. If it is gonna fail make it fail right from the beginning by stress testing (for more than 15 min) that aint even long enough for your system to even feel its doing anything at all hardly and if the stress testing doesnt find a bad piece of hardware for you after 3-4 hrs at least then you would be safe to assume you may not have any faulty Hardware.


This is just my opnion on things and Im sure others have their methods for new builds and what they like to put them through before they are satisfied with things.

Coleski

Good point!!!!!!!!

[David Rolfe]

Originally posted by BillC
90c is 194F. Ain't no way that your CPU is even close to that. The thermal throttling of the P4 would shelve it back long before it reached that point. Besides that, you wouldn't even be able to boot at that temp. My guess is that you have a wayward sensor. Wish I had more to offer, but that's the most likely culprit.

Best,
Bill

Thanks Bill... the BIOS screen confirms that your conversion is correct!

Those were my thoughts also... I have just turned it on again (from 'cold') and went straight into the BIOS temps which immediately showed 88c. The heat sink wasn't even warm to the touch though!

It does therefore look like a sensor problem I reckon... and on a brand new board too! I will talk to Intel tech support tomorrow, to see what they have to say for themselves!

Am I right in thinking that the BIOS and IDCC both get their CPU temperature readings from the same sensor do you know?... I would have thought that they did but am not really 100% sure!

Cheers,

-David-

[BillC]

Originally posted by David Rolfe
Am I right in thinking that the BIOS and IDCC both get their CPU temperature readings from the same sensor do you know?... I would have thought that they did but am not really 100% sure!

Cheers,

-David-

I don't know, David. Like you, I assume that they do, but that is only an assumption on my part.

Let us know what happens with Intel tech support -- I'm interested to see how they respond to this issue.

Thanks,
Bill(ski)

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by BillC
90c is 194F. Ain't no way that your CPU is even close to that. The thermal throttling of the P4 would shelve it back long before it reached that point. Besides that, you wouldn't even be able to boot at that temp. My guess is that you have a wayward sensor. Wish I had more to offer, but that's the most likely culprit.

Best,
Bill

Back in my P4PE days, I had those high temps from an non-oc'ed 2.53. Fortunately, I had another computer to test the proc on and sure enough the proc went bad on me. Had to RMA through Intel.

After dealing with AMD and Intel, I now pay the extra fee through newegg for the additional warranty that allows you to deal with newegg instead of AMD or Intel.

[Cole_abx]

Originally posted by BillC
Don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that 38.25 minutes is sufficient for cleaning. And you can also use regular-clean alcohol instead of super-clean alcohol and save 20 or 30 cents.

Glad to help,
Bill

Well from the start I am doing exactly what you said not to but I think it is for a just cause......



I am such a nice person () that, I wanted to let both Billski, and Usa-Boy know, that the amount of actual, time a needed for the de-contamination process of a CPU with a substance refered to as crappy Intel compound is less than 2 minutes and believe it or not the Thermal Compound cleaning POLICE will allow you to clean not one but 2 !!!! Yes thats right 2 in 2 minutes ! Just imagine the possibilites one could achieve with such abilities !

However, the catch is this... completion can only be achieved once a 38 minute NASA Laser Eletronic Microscope is used to ensure that all possibilities of a single proton of the crappy Intel compount is not found on the CPU . So the absolute most pure form of Artic Silver Thermal compound (also refered to by some as- " Not " the Intel Crappy compound) will achieve total harmony with the Zalman that will be installed and thus Smash the freshly de-contaminated microscopic pores once again full of a Similar substance to the Intel crappy compound and causing total and complete touchiness between components.

I hope this priceless offering of my useless tid-bit of knowledge can show others the importance of Heatsink installation.


On a final note-

Science experts studying the process I have mentioned above have found that the Artic Silver crappy compound is very lonely due to the lack of other crappy compound protons to share their experiences with.

As of this moment things are being done to ensure that future procedures of removal is done in a way to allow for full functionality of Artic Silver Thermal crappy compound as well as plenty of non Artic protrons around for the lonelyness will be a thing of the past.


Im confused....
And I have a headache too..

Coleski


I am sorry Billski but in conclusion the 40 min amount of time mentioned is the correct ammount of time and any who spent even a second less time cleaning their CPU will begin to see their temps rise untill the correct method is used for the full amount of time (40 minutes and not a second less)

Oh and I forgot that the addition option of 38 inspections can be done before applying the desired non Intel yet still very similar to crappy compound can applied by the owner.

[Cole_abx]

Originally posted by USA_Boy
And here is my awesome Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Cooler.. Enjoy

That has to be the cleanest Zalman ever built I couldnt see even one speck of dirt.

You did a real mighty good job of not touching it on any of its surfaces directly with your skin, so the super sensitve copper doesnt start to decompose, right?

Just kidding!

Good job though!

Coleski

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by Cole
That has to be the cleanest Zalman ever built I couldnt see even one speck of dirt.

You did a real mighty good job of not touching it on any of its surfaces directly with your skin, so the super sensitve copper doesnt start to decompose, right?

Just kidding!

Good job though!

Coleski

Oh, I guess you didn't know.

You see, the super sensitive copper does indeed decompose-that way the dust is eaten away and bascially when the fins are gone you have to replace the HSF with another. It's Zalman's latest and greatest way to generate more profit. I think they call this technology: Foist.

[Zeppelin]

UT total NOOB here. Finally decided to see what all the fuss is about. And I thought that the text based Zork was the poop! Pleased to note that system is more than equal to the task in every aspect...wonder when I will have a chance to do some work?

[BillC]

Originally posted by Cole
Well from the start I am doing exactly what you said not to but I think it is for a just cause......

blah...blah....blah....

Cole(ski), I think this is a textbook definition of "too much free time on your hands."



HTH,
Bill

[USA_Boy]

Originally posted by pointreyes


Oh, I guess you didn't know.

You see, the super sensitive copper does indeed decompose-that way the dust is eaten away and bascially when the fins are gone you have to replace the HSF with another. It's Zalman's latest and greatest way to generate more profit. I think they call this technology: Foist.

Okayyyyyyyy.... You guys are scaring me

[USA_Boy]

Originally posted by David Rolfe
Thanks Bill... the BIOS screen confirms that your conversion is correct!

The heat sink wasn't even warm to the touch though!

I read in techworthy magazine (PC upgrade edition) that one way to make sure that the heatsink is working, is if you slighlty touch to make sure it's warm. If it is, the the heat is going away from the CPU to the heatsink....