Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) - Page 26

**Sandog** · 10-21-2008, 01:19 PM

Newegg has it for $149.00 and has as good or better return policy.

...one more thing on HS grease. You can not rotate the HS like some places tell you to to spread the compound with the push-pin HS's. Some Zalman and Thermalrights you can twist the HS after it is installed but not push-pins HS's. If you install the compound according to Antec you will not have to rotate the HS.

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Damn Dirty Ape · 10-21-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

Newegg has it for $149.00 and has as good or better return policy.

...one more thing on HS grease. You can not rotate the HS like some places tell you to to spread the compound with the push-pin HS's. Some Zalman and Thermalrights you can twist the HS after it is installed but not push-pins HS's. If you install the compound according to Antec you will not have to rotate the HS.

oops - been doing that too.. I need to start coming back here more.

Was looking at this memory - Micro Center - TwinX XMS3 4GB PC-12800 DDR3 Memory Kit (Two 2GB DDR3-1600 Memory Modules)

worth trying or?

**Sandog** · 10-21-2008, 03:39 PM

Right now I am not sure what works with this board the best but if you are not going to OC then I would suggest 1333. Here's some selections of 1333.
Newegg.com - DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666), 4GB (2 x 2GB), 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM, Desktop Memory, Memory, Computer Hardware

Damn Dirty Ape · 10-21-2008, 04:22 PM

Thanks for the link, I probably should stay with the 1.5v too, just in case I want to take them over to an i7 setup at some point?

This might be a little off the topic, perhaps not, but if one is NOT OC'ng, is there any real problem/difference in using 2 memory sticks or 4 these days?

I read on here somewhere that it was mentioned that the memory controllers now just really don't like it.

Der Keyser · 10-22-2008, 01:07 AM

Hi

I was just wondering about all this talk of memory voltage settings (Vdimm).
Most DDR3 memory sticks out there comes with a 1.65, 1.7 or 1.8V specification. When a motherboard like DP45SG is rated for 1.5V memory and has BIOS troubles driving more than that on auto does that mean it is quite random weather you in fact are able to post the board so you can enter BIOS to set a higher Vdimm?

Im waiting for my board and are reading ALOT about people not being able to even post the board because of memory related problems. THe memory I purchased is 4 x 2Gb OZC gold DDR 1333 rated at 1.7v

I'm also interested like Damn Dirty Ape in knowing if I should expect massive amounts of trouble driving 4 sticks instead of 2?

TCRG tv · 10-22-2008, 09:04 AM

I don't have too much room to talk about memory becuase I am still building. The only thing I can add and that I am going to do is use a 1.5v RAM kit. A couple of folks on New Egg have said that theirs worked out of the box. Timing doesn't look so hot with a 1.5v but it seems like it is a safer bet to reduce frustration as a rookie builder. I am going to wait for the board to mature and then maybe we can add some juice to the Ram.

I am a little confused about the GPU though as it is my last component I need. It seems that one slot you can run 16x and the other is 8x which would make them both run at 8x in SLI. (I think, but is not what the review video on Tiger Direct said. They said both would run 16x....grrrr)

Having said that it makes me want to go with like a 9800 GX2 (only $279 now on the Egg) so that effectively I will have SLI in one slot at 16x. I haven't budgeted for a the 4870 X2 but it seems sweet. I have heard of compability issues with the 4870x2 with Intel chipsets though.

Or you can now do an EVGA GTX 260 - 216 core for about the same price at a 9800 GX2but it looks like the GX2 smokes it in benchies. Darn I wish I could make up my mind. Any recommendations?

LOL

By the way thanks for the help on my 2x2 12v supply question Sandog. As it turns out the 750 tx by Corsair had a 4x2 that turns into a 2x2 12v by splitting it and I didn't need an adapter. Thanks for the help though.

chevyvan10 · 10-22-2008, 12:07 PM

FINALLY!

new bios has been posted on the Intel website!!

About This BIOS:
• October 1, 2008
• SGP4510H.86A.0093.2008.1001.1958
• GBE firmware bin version: 10R_567
• PXE Option Rom file: Intel UNDI,PXE-BA0020Q2.LOM
• ME Version: 1080 (Disable)
• RAID Option Rom version: 8.0.0.1039
New Fixes/Features:
• Updated Intel® Desktop Control Center (IDCC) module.
• Fixed OEM Activation 2.0 failure.
• Fixed issue where User Access Level = View Only.
• Updated MRC 2.40
• Fixed issue where Watchdog Timer does not work during CPU
initiation.
• Fixed issue where default factory setting and the configuration
will remain after reconfiguring.
• Fixed issue where Intel® Integrator Toolkit (ITK) doesn’t
correctly report BIOS flashing result when flashing process fails.
• Fixed issue in ITK with lock/hide state for UQI 6A (Onboard
Audio).
• Fixed issue where bootable devices except Hard Disk Drive
disappear in Intel® Integrator Assistant (IIA) boot order.
• Fixed issue where BIOS update intermittently fails using IIA.
• Fixed issue where boot order list did not propagate in IIA when
user enables bootable devices in F2 BIOS Advance Mode.
• Updated Intel® Desktop Control Center module.
• Fixed issue with supervisor password in Setup and OS.
• Fixed issue with resume on AC Loss (LAST STATE POWER OFF).
• Fixed issue with iFlash to previous BIOS, recovery.
• Updated time verify function.
• Fixed date/time issues.
• Updated UQI
• Updated consumer infrared (CIR) functionality.
• Updates to improve reliability of RTC code.
• Saved/Restored index registers.
• Fixed issue with RTC wake up.

chevyvan10 · 10-22-2008, 12:41 PM

well...

the on/off/on problem is preventing me from updating the bios.

Time to RMA this POS!

If your board has this problem, I'm now pretty damn sure IT'S DEFECTIVE! Have it replaced! The first DP45SG I had didn't do this! It's not a "feature"!

bjbgraphics · 10-22-2008, 01:10 PM

Perhaps Sandog's earlier post #111 could be of use to get around the restart issue and update the BIOS. If that works and the new BIOS fixes the restart issue, you won't have to RMA the board.

BJB

**Sandog** · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevyvan10

well...

the on/off/on problem is preventing me from updating the bios.

Time to RMA this POS!

If your board has this problem, I'm now pretty damn sure IT'S DEFECTIVE! Have it replaced! The first DP45SG I had didn't do this! It's not a "feature"!

I had this problem also. I knew I could not update the BIOS from Windows because of the boot issue so I only tried using Recovery BIOS on a USB thumbdrive and it worked fine. You have to have patience though, it took a while to work (5min.) You don't mess with the computer. If I remember I just stuck the USB thumbdrive in and pulled the BIOS jumper completely off and let her go.

devSpeed · 10-22-2008, 02:32 PM

Updated to new Bios. Still have the reboot after shutdown problem. Still have crazy monitor positions. In other words it didn't fix any of my problems.

**Sandog** · 10-22-2008, 03:43 PM

How did you install the new BIOS?

It looks like Intel skipped BIOS .0088, I will try the new BIOS this evening.

FYI, new spec. update talks about memory some.

http://download.intel.com/support/mo...e4912103us.pdf

devSpeed · 10-22-2008, 04:07 PM

I installed with IFlash. The install from windows would not work for me.

**Sandog** · 10-22-2008, 06:19 PM

How do you make the drive bootable with iFlash on it?

Waterp7 · 10-22-2008, 07:05 PM

Did this new BIOS correct any of the memory issues that has plagued us?

Anyone have memory that reads correctly now?

10-21-2008, 01:19 PM	#376
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Newegg has it for $149.00 and has as good or better return policy. ...one more thing on HS grease. You can not rotate the HS like some places tell you to to spread the compound with the push-pin HS's. Some Zalman and Thermalrights you can twist the HS after it is installed but not push-pins HS's. If you install the compound according to Antec you will not have to rotate the HS. Last edited by Sandog; 10-21-2008 at 01:25 PM..
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10-21-2008, 03:39 PM	#378
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Right now I am not sure what works with this board the best but if you are not going to OC then I would suggest 1333. Here's some selections of 1333. Newegg.com - DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666), 4GB (2 x 2GB), 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM, Desktop Memory, Memory, Computer Hardware
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10-21-2008, 04:22 PM	#379
Damn Dirty Ape Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 67	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Thanks for the link, I probably should stay with the 1.5v too, just in case I want to take them over to an i7 setup at some point? This might be a little off the topic, perhaps not, but if one is NOT OC'ng, is there any real problem/difference in using 2 memory sticks or 4 these days? I read on here somewhere that it was mentioned that the memory controllers now just really don't like it.
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10-22-2008, 01:07 AM	#380
Der Keyser Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 36	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Hi I was just wondering about all this talk of memory voltage settings (Vdimm). Most DDR3 memory sticks out there comes with a 1.65, 1.7 or 1.8V specification. When a motherboard like DP45SG is rated for 1.5V memory and has BIOS troubles driving more than that on auto does that mean it is quite random weather you in fact are able to post the board so you can enter BIOS to set a higher Vdimm? Im waiting for my board and are reading ALOT about people not being able to even post the board because of memory related problems. THe memory I purchased is 4 x 2Gb OZC gold DDR 1333 rated at 1.7v I'm also interested like Damn Dirty Ape in knowing if I should expect massive amounts of trouble driving 4 sticks instead of 2?
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10-22-2008, 09:04 AM	#381
TCRG tv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 85	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) I don't have too much room to talk about memory becuase I am still building. The only thing I can add and that I am going to do is use a 1.5v RAM kit. A couple of folks on New Egg have said that theirs worked out of the box. Timing doesn't look so hot with a 1.5v but it seems like it is a safer bet to reduce frustration as a rookie builder. I am going to wait for the board to mature and then maybe we can add some juice to the Ram. I am a little confused about the GPU though as it is my last component I need. It seems that one slot you can run 16x and the other is 8x which would make them both run at 8x in SLI. (I think, but is not what the review video on Tiger Direct said. They said both would run 16x....grrrr) Having said that it makes me want to go with like a 9800 GX2 (only $279 now on the Egg) so that effectively I will have SLI in one slot at 16x. I haven't budgeted for a the 4870 X2 but it seems sweet. I have heard of compability issues with the 4870x2 with Intel chipsets though. Or you can now do an EVGA GTX 260 - 216 core for about the same price at a 9800 GX2but it looks like the GX2 smokes it in benchies. Darn I wish I could make up my mind. Any recommendations? LOL By the way thanks for the help on my 2x2 12v supply question Sandog. As it turns out the 750 tx by Corsair had a 4x2 that turns into a 2x2 12v by splitting it and I didn't need an adapter. Thanks for the help though. Last edited by TCRG tv; 10-22-2008 at 09:17 AM..
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10-22-2008, 12:07 PM	#382
chevyvan10 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 23	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) FINALLY! new bios has been posted on the Intel website!! About This BIOS: • October 1, 2008 • SGP4510H.86A.0093.2008.1001.1958 • GBE firmware bin version: 10R_567 • PXE Option Rom file: Intel UNDI,PXE-BA0020Q2.LOM • ME Version: 1080 (Disable) • RAID Option Rom version: 8.0.0.1039 New Fixes/Features: • Updated Intel® Desktop Control Center (IDCC) module. • Fixed OEM Activation 2.0 failure. • Fixed issue where User Access Level = View Only. • Updated MRC 2.40 • Fixed issue where Watchdog Timer does not work during CPU initiation. • Fixed issue where default factory setting and the configuration will remain after reconfiguring. • Fixed issue where Intel® Integrator Toolkit (ITK) doesn’t correctly report BIOS flashing result when flashing process fails. • Fixed issue in ITK with lock/hide state for UQI 6A (Onboard Audio). • Fixed issue where bootable devices except Hard Disk Drive disappear in Intel® Integrator Assistant (IIA) boot order. • Fixed issue where BIOS update intermittently fails using IIA. • Fixed issue where boot order list did not propagate in IIA when user enables bootable devices in F2 BIOS Advance Mode. • Updated Intel® Desktop Control Center module. • Fixed issue with supervisor password in Setup and OS. • Fixed issue with resume on AC Loss (LAST STATE POWER OFF). • Fixed issue with iFlash to previous BIOS, recovery. • Updated time verify function. • Fixed date/time issues. • Updated UQI • Updated consumer infrared (CIR) functionality. • Updates to improve reliability of RTC code. • Saved/Restored index registers. • Fixed issue with RTC wake up.
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10-22-2008, 12:41 PM	#383
chevyvan10 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 23	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) well... the on/off/on problem is preventing me from updating the bios. Time to RMA this POS! If your board has this problem, I'm now pretty damn sure IT'S DEFECTIVE! Have it replaced! The first DP45SG I had didn't do this! It's not a "feature"!
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10-22-2008, 01:10 PM	#384
bjbgraphics Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Posts: 656	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Perhaps Sandog's earlier post #111 could be of use to get around the restart issue and update the BIOS. If that works and the new BIOS fixes the restart issue, you won't have to RMA the board. BJB __________________ Cybertron: Antec SX600II - SeaSonic M12 SS-700HM - 3x80mm Nexus Real Silent Fans - Intel D875PBZ v205 P27 - P4 3.4c - 2x512MB, 2x1024MB Corsair XMS 3200C2 DDR - Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 512MB AGP - 36.7GB Western Digital Raptor - 40GB Western Digital Caviar Special Edition - JVC Lite-On HD166S DVD-Rom VectorSigma: Antec SLK1600 - Corsair VX450W - Vantec Stealth 1x92mm & 1x80mm Fans - Asus TUSL2 1012 - PIII-S 1.4 - 2x256MB PC133 Kingston Technology KVR133X64CS (CL2) - Apollo GeForce FX 5200 128MB AGP - 200GB Western Digital WD2000JB - 3ware 7006-2 RAID / RAID 1 / 2x300GB Maxtor MaXLine III - JVC Lite-On 851S DVD-RW Junkion: Dell Dimension 4100 - PC Power & Cooling Silencer 360 Dell - Vantec Stealth 1x92mm Fan - PIII 733 - 2x256MB PC133 Atlas Precision (CL3) - ATI Radeon 9800 - 20GB Quantum Fireball Teletran1: Dell Latitude C600 - 512MB Ram - 30GB Hard Drive Last edited by bjbgraphics; 10-22-2008 at 01:34 PM.. Reason: Clarity
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10-22-2008, 02:32 PM	#386
devSpeed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Posts: 14	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Updated to new Bios. Still have the reboot after shutdown problem. Still have crazy monitor positions. In other words it didn't fix any of my problems. __________________ Start right, Stay right
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10-22-2008, 03:43 PM	#387
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) How did you install the new BIOS? It looks like Intel skipped BIOS .0088, I will try the new BIOS this evening. FYI, new spec. update talks about memory some. http://download.intel.com/support/mo...e4912103us.pdf
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10-22-2008, 04:07 PM	#388
devSpeed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Posts: 14	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) I installed with IFlash. The install from windows would not work for me. __________________ Start right, Stay right
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10-22-2008, 06:19 PM	#389
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) How do you make the drive bootable with iFlash on it?
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10-22-2008, 07:05 PM	#390
Waterp7 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40	Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg) Did this new BIOS correct any of the memory issues that has plagued us? Anyone have memory that reads correctly now?
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