Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

[Sandog]

Well I confirmed load CPU temps by running C&C KW on high settings for 30min and HWM topped out at 31C. 32C is the highest I've seen so far with this cooler running 4 CPUBurns. The results are astounding IMO. My buddy has the same heat sink but runs normally in the 40'sC with his 4.2GHz Wolfdale. I really believe my results are much better because of the type of heat paste (Antec) I use and the way it is applied. So far in my case the hottest item is the video card at 42C max. load. I know even a 55nm GTX260 will not get this low but I am getting the card ASAP.

[CrowdAds]

[sintricate]

Originally Posted by WillisDM

My board came with Bios 0088 on it, and I'm still in the process of getting that update, but am obviously running into issues of boot order, so can't flash from windows because I have too much ram, can't flash from CD because it just won't boot to it. So I'm in the process of getting ready to attempt flashing by USB.

How much ram is too much? I can update fine with 4gb as long as the ram is set to auto. (as long as there's no on/off/on crap going...on :P)

[WillisDM]

Originally Posted by sintricate

How much ram is too much? I can update fine with 4gb as long as the ram is set to auto. (as long as there's no on/off/on crap going...on :P)

I have 8GB installed, and I'm seeing a few people say you can only flash with the windows exe with more than 2GB. I tried running the exe, and when it shut the machine down, it just sat there at a black screen with the fans running at mid speed. (this was with CPU and Ram set to auto). I let it sit there for approximately 7 minutes before forcing it off.

Got a hold of the HP flash boot utility, and now it says it doesn't support my OS, which is news to me, it used to work... back to trying more ways to flash my BIOS.

[hawkeyelom]

Sandog

How do you get your GPU to run cool? I have a saphire 4850 :1 GB that runs at ~60C with the fan at about 1085 at idle. I briefly installed CCC and it said the fan was at 50%.

Normaly I do no have CCC installed--ATI support said my temps were normal-- and from what I have seen on the Web, tihs board just runs hot. Should I use CCC to up fan speed? and to waht?

[WillisDM]

Originally Posted by WillisDM

My board came with Bios 0088 on it, and I'm still in the process of getting that update, but am obviously running into issues of boot order, so can't flash from windows because I have too much ram, can't flash from CD because it just won't boot to it. So I'm in the process of getting ready to attempt flashing by USB.

After further investigation, the ISO file listed on Intel's support site isn't even bootable! I've verified in 3 programs, and burning with two burners and programs. All utilities that open ISOs say this is a data CD/DVD, non-bootable.

Brilliant, well done Intel.

[rys]

Does anyone have a fix for the "Boot Failure" error? I upgraded to 0102, and started encountering the "Boot Failure" issue (without a CD in the drive - if the XP64 CD is in drive, it boots.)

I then down graded to 0093, but I am still having the issue.

I have a revision 403 board, Q9550, 4GB memory, 2 disks running in RAID Mirroring.

Everything on this machine was okay until I flashed to 0102, now I can't seem to get it to boot without the XP CD in the drive.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-Brian

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by rys

Does anyone have a fix for the "Boot Failure" error? I upgraded to 0102, and started encountering the "Boot Failure" issue (without a CD in the drive - if the XP64 CD is in drive, it boots.)

I then down graded to 0093, but I am still having the issue.

I have a revision 403 board, Q9550, 4GB memory, 2 disks running in RAID Mirroring.

Everything on this machine was okay until I flashed to 0102, now I can't seem to get it to boot without the XP CD in the drive.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-Brian

That's odd. Only being able to boot with the CD in the drive implies that it's only looking at the CD for a bootable image. When you flashed the BIOS, did you hit F9 to restore the optimized (factory) defaults after flashing? Also, double-check the Boot Device Priority in the BIOS and make sure your hard drive is in the list. And, are you running any kind of AHCI or RAID setup? If you did restore the factory defaults, that puts the SATA mode back to IDE (under Advanced | Drive Configuration | Configure SATA as... (or something like that)). In that case, it's highly likely the system won't recognize the hard drive until you change that Drive Configuration back).

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by WillisDM

After further investigation, the ISO file listed on Intel's support site isn't even bootable! I've verified in 3 programs, and burning with two burners and programs. All utilities that open ISOs say this is a data CD/DVD, non-bootable.

Brilliant, well done Intel.

I don't know your OS, and I apologize for bringing up something that's probably obvious, but are you sure you downloaded the right file? It should be the last one in the list on this page:

Intel® Desktop Board DP45SGÂ*BIOS Update [SGP4510H.86A]

"ISO Image BIOS Update [SGP4510H.86A.0102.ISO] - Bootable ISO image BIOS update; this is the recommended method to update the BIOS on systems running Linux*. It requires a blank CD and a read/writeable CD drive."

If that file is truly non-bootable, then you'll probably need the Recovery BIOS Update (the first file on that same page (and, I believe, that produces a non-bootable CD -- the recovery process forces it to read from the CD (again, I believe -- I've never done this))):

"Recovery BIOS Update [SG0102.BIO] - A .BIO file to be used for BIOS recovery process, regardless of operating system. In the unlikely event that a BIOS update is interrupted, it is possible the BIOS may be left in an unusable state. Use the Recovery BIOS update to recovering from this condition. It requires a blank floppy diskette or CD."

That will require you to remove the BIOS Configuration Jumper as noted here:

Desktop Boards - Instructions for Recovery BIOS update

[rys]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

That's odd. Only being able to boot with the CD in the drive implies that it's only looking at the CD for a bootable image. When you flashed the BIOS, did you hit F9 to restore the optimized (factory) defaults after flashing? Also, double-check the Boot Device Priority in the BIOS and make sure your hard drive is in the list. And, are you running any kind of AHCI or RAID setup? If you did restore the factory defaults, that puts the SATA mode back to IDE (under Advanced | Drive Configuration | Configure SATA as... (or something like that)). In that case, it's highly likely the system won't recognize the hard drive until you change that Drive Configuration back).

Actually, I didn't hit F9, but I don't believe there was an option to do that. I did the flash back to 0093 using IFLASH from a bootable. When the machine came up, all BIOS settings were at default, so I reconfigured the machine to regard the disks as a RAID.

The disk are configured using the Intel RAID (CTRL-I on the second boot screen.) They were not reconfigured on the RAID screen when the BIOS was reflashed. (No need since the RAID configuration is stored on the disks, also, any de-configure, re-configure changes in the RAID screen will wipe the disks out.)

Boot device priority is:
[CD/DVD-ROM Drive]
[Hard Disk Drive]
[Floppy Drive]

Hard Drive Order is:
[Intel Raid]

Believe me, the drives are configured right, and the system boots, but only so long as the XP 64 CD is in the drive.

-Brian

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by rys

...so I reconfigured the machine to regard the disks as a RAID.

The disk are configured using the Intel RAID (CTRL-I on the second boot screen.) They were not reconfigured on the RAID screen when the BIOS was reflashed. (No need since the RAID configuration is stored on the disks, also, any de-configure, re-configure changes in the RAID screen will wipe the disks out.)

What's on the disks, now? Was the OS installed onto the disks as while the BIOS was set to RAID? Or, was it installed with the BIOS set to IDE? Any multi-boot going on?

[Sandog]

I had the 'no boot drive' issue a couple of times. You need to go into BIOS and play around with the boot order then set it back to the hard drive. Or you can try hitting F9 and resetting to defaults and then make custom settings. This is what fixed it for me. Welcome to BIOS 0102

Also you can still continue to boot with this problem without the CD. You hit F10 when you are booting, select the hard disk, then hit escape, then you will see WindowsXP/Vista. Select this and hit enter and it will boot into Windows.

[WillisDM]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

I don't know your OS, and I apologize for bringing up something that's probably obvious, but are you sure you downloaded the right file? It should be the last one in the list on this page:

Intel® Desktop Board DP45SGÂ*BIOS Update [SGP4510H.86A]

"ISO Image BIOS Update [SGP4510H.86A.0102.ISO] - Bootable ISO image BIOS update; this is the recommended method to update the BIOS on systems running Linux*. It requires a blank CD and a read/writeable CD drive."

If that file is truly non-bootable, then you'll probably need the Recovery BIOS Update (the first file on that same page (and, I believe, that produces a non-bootable CD -- the recovery process forces it to read from the CD (again, I believe -- I've never done this))):

"Recovery BIOS Update [SG0102.BIO] - A .BIO file to be used for BIOS recovery process, regardless of operating system. In the unlikely event that a BIOS update is interrupted, it is possible the BIOS may be left in an unusable state. Use the Recovery BIOS update to recovering from this condition. It requires a blank floppy diskette or CD."

I'm an advanced PC user, I was doing everything correctly, their ISO image, specifically supposed to be a bootable image, was in fact not bootable.

And to prove how little attention Intel pays to their processes, one of the options they give you is to put their 12MB BIOS image on a floppy drive. Yeah, that'll work well.


Now for some fun facts in my BIOS flashing adventures:

0102 Exe: (8GB Ram) Unit restarts and does nothing. Physically shuts off, re-powers up and stops at a black screen, never posting to BIOS.
0102 Bootable ISO; doesn't have a boot image, obviously doesn't work.
0102 iFlash on USB: unable to find a working bootable floppy image to work with the HP utility on Vista x64 without having an actual floppy drive or install a bunch of drive emulation software.
0102 Recovery (CD): no BIOS screen, initializes CD (spins up, access, then spins down), system sits on black screen doing nothing.
0093 Exe: After clicking finish to restart, popped up some random error saying it couldn't do anything.
0102 Exe: (4GB Ram) Removed half my ram for testing. Same results as first test.
0102 Exe: (2GB) Removed 3 of my 4 sticks of ram... FINALLY a successful flash.


rys: As per the the "boot failure" message, make sure your booth method is set to "Normal" and not "Advanced". That solved the "boot failure" issues I was having.



On 0102, still no multiplier/bus control, overall, this board has been incredibly disappointing.

[rys]

Originally Posted by Sandog

I had the 'no boot drive' issue a couple of times. You need to go into BIOS and play around with the boot order then set it back to the hard drive. Or you can try hitting F9 and resetting to defaults and then make custom settings. This is what fixed it for me. Welcome to BIOS 0102

Also you can still continue to boot with this problem without the CD. You hit F10 when you are booting, select the hard disk, then hit escape, then you will see WindowsXP/Vista. Select this and hit enter and it will boot into Windows.

Sandog has it right, I have been set to "Normal" this whole time, but it took a round of F9 Load optimized defaults, changing the boot order up (I put ethernet first.), save and exit, then jumping back into the BIOS to set it all right again.

It's fine now.

Thanks all for the suggestions, I appreciate your responses!

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by hawkeyelom

Sandog

How do you get your GPU to run cool? I have a saphire 4850 :1 GB that runs at ~60C with the fan at about 1085 at idle. I briefly installed CCC and it said the fan was at 50%.

Normaly I do no have CCC installed--ATI support said my temps were normal-- and from what I have seen on the Web, tihs board just runs hot. Should I use CCC to up fan speed? and to waht?

I have the Sapphire Toxic 4870. It has the liquid fusion cooling heat sink. When I first got the card it would hit 52C under load. After a little over a week of breaking in it never hits over 43C now. I only have about a 8-10C difference between idle and load with the card. Very cool running. My case doesn't get hot either from the card. I really want the GTX260 but I don't want 70C temps again lol. I am waiting for the 55nm version.

Edit: My Sapphire Toxic cools better than some water blocks I have seen where temps got up to 45C.

[hawkeyelom]

Sandog,--or anyone else that wants to reply

re:
" I have a saphire 4850 :1 GB that runs at ~60C with the fan at about 1085 at idle. I briefly installed CCC and it said the fan was at 50%.
Normaly I do no have CCC installed--ATI support said my temps were normal-- and from what I have seen on the Web, tihs board just runs hot. Should I use CCC to up fan speed? and to what?"

Thanks for the reply---do you think I should use CCC to raise fan speed and to what--do you think this would do any good?

thanks in advance for any input