Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

[Der Keyser]

I have a ASUS EAH4870 (512Mb) card in my DP45SG with a HP 30" and a HP 24" screen attached (2560x1600 and 1920x1200) without serious problems.

The only issue: - I have to disable either AERO or the Sidebar as ATI and Microsoft have been batteling for more that a year about who has a problem when the ATI driver stops responding every now and then in a two screen setup with both AERO and Sidebar enabled.

My card runs relatively hot ~ 52C in Idle and ~70C at full load.

-Der Keyser

[CrowdAds]

[Der Keyser]

Seeing the "Supports 9-9-9 1.7v" DDR3 in the 0106 BIOS makes me wonder:

Have anyone tried if the on/off/on problem has gone away when setting memory to more that 1.5v manually?

I'm a little reluctant to participate in this public BETA testing program that Intel seems to have adopted ;-) My rig is stable now. It only needs to run my memory at its rated 9-9-9-24 1333Mhz without the on/off/on problem.

-Der Keyser

[DaveLessnau]

I confirmed that 0106 behaves the same as 0102 regarding Processor Overrides. Here's the core of an email I sent to Intel on it (I'm running an E8400 which is supposed to default to 9x333 = 3GHz):

- At Default, the system behaves normally:
-- the BIOS Main page reports the speed at 3GHz,
-- SpeedStep works by varying the system from 6x333 (2GHz) to 9x333 (3GHz) (confirmed by CPU-Z, HWMonitor, and PIU),
-- CPU VCORE idles at 1.04V,
-- Sandra reports everything correctly and gives the following scores:
--- Processor Arithmetic = 23,841 MOPS
--- Processor Multi-Media = 57,368k Pixels/s
--- Performance Index = 349
- The behaviors at PromptYes and 9x334 are, mostly, identical to each other (and wrong):
-- the BIOS Main and Processor Overrides pages report the speed at about 3.1:
--- for PromptYes, 3.16GHz upon making the change and then 2.00GHz following a reboot,
--- for 9x334, 3.0GHz upon making the change and then 3.1GHz following a reboot,
-- EIST disappears from the Power tab,
-- SpeedStep doesn't work and the system stays at about 6x333 and 2GHz (confirmed by CPU-Z, HWMonitor, and PIU),
-- CPU VCORE idles around 1.20 (which works out to about a 33% increase in processor power use since power varies by the square of the voltage),
-- Sandra reports the processor is running at 50% OC and the memory as PC3-12800 instead of PC3-8500 (which is odd since I never touched the Memory Overrides page and it isn't reflected anywhere else). It gives the following scores:
--- Processor Arithmetic = 15,753 MOPS
--- Processor Multi-Media = 38,111k Pixels/s
--- Performance Index = 319

Which works out to a performance of about 2/3 of Default (confirming the system is running at 6x333 and 2GHz).

EDIT: I forgot my definitions:
- with Processor Overrides left entirely alone (Default),
- with Processor Overrides changed only by accepting the "Do You Wish to Continue?" Prompt from No to Yes (PromptYes),
- with Processor Overrides changed to a Multiplier of 9 and a Frequency of 334 (9x334).

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

...I've got an eSATA enclosure hooked up to the eSATA port on the back of the board. I set up my single, primary, internal drive as RAID (ready) so that I could have hot-swapping on that eSATA drive. As long as I don't let my computer enter sleep mode, I'm fine. If I turn on the eSATA drive, I get that bee-boop sound and see the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the System Tray. Intel's Matrix Storage Manager (MSM) also shows up with the drive listed as External. But, if I let my computer sleep and then wake it up, nothing happens when I turn on that eSATA drive. No bee-boop, no "Safely Remove Hardware," MSM doesn't pop up, and when I manually start it (MSM), the drive isn't there. The drive is also missing from Vista's "Computer Management" screen and Device Manager. In MSM, if I tell it to "Rescan for Plug and Play Devices" from the Actions menu, the drive will show up. But, it's listed as Internal and the only way I can safely disconnect it is to turn off the machine and then turn off the drive. The only ways I've found to get the eSATA drive properly recognized following Sleep is to reboot or to physically unplug/re-plug the eSATA cable...

This, too, has not been fixed with 0106 (though it could very well not be a BIOS problem)

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by Der Keyser

Seeing the "Supports 9-9-9 1.7v" DDR3 in the 0106 BIOS makes me wonder:

Have anyone tried if the on/off/on problem has gone away when setting memory to more that 1.5v manually?

I'm a little reluctant to participate in this public BETA testing program that Intel seems to have adopted ;-) My rig is stable now. It only needs to run my memory at its rated 9-9-9-24 1333Mhz without the on/off/on problem.

-Der Keyser

• Added support for PC3 1066 9-9-9 1.7v DRAM.

PC3 1066(0/6) means DDR3 1333. It looks like Intel added an extra volt stepping which is good. I have not tried it but if you have DDR3 1333 rated for 1.7V and set BIOS\Memory to automatic you should loose the double-cycling problem as you did with 1.5V memory. There are not a lot of DDR3 1333 1.5V sticks available so this broadens your memory choice considerably plus you should have higher/more successful OC's on the CPU FSB running memory in auto at 1333/1.7V.

[rys]

Originally Posted by DrDuranDuran

Ok, while I was sitting here typing how this BIOS update didn't fix the 4870 Video issue, after about 3 mins of nothing the BIOS screen comes up !

Originally Posted by DrDuranDuran

Is anyone on here using the Asus Dark Knight PCI-E card ? I am returning the Sapphire one to try it at this point. Same chipset and 1 gig of GDDR5 ram, so it seems like a total roll of the dice.

I'm running an ATI Diamond Radeon 4870 (1GB of DDR5), and it is _booting_ fine, it runs okay too with the exception that the system crashes when I try to wake it from S3 Sleep.

This is a small step above BIOS 0102 for me, where when I woke the system from S3, it would run through an on-off-on cycle, and then sit there forever with no video at all.

At the current BIOS revision (0106), my memory is now manually configured correctly (Crucial brand 1066 6-6-6-20 @ 1.8V.) I am running XP 64 SP2, with the latest ATI drivers (to date, Catalyst 8.12.) but when I wake the system, I get a BSOD complaining about ati2dvag.dll.

Anyone else have a similar issue? At this point I am not sure if it is the software or the BIOS.

-Brian

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

This, too, has not been fixed with 0106 (though it could very well not be a BIOS problem)

I would try a different sleep state. With S3 which I take it you are using (BIOS default) turns everything off and saves necessary OS drive files to RAM. Try opening Explorer to some files on the eSATA drive and leave it open while you go to sleep. You can change power settings in Vista to leave drives on in stdby I believe or you might have to change it in BIOS. Also if you have Intel Matrix Storage Manager installed try looking at the drive properties in there or in Windows Device Manager to change properties.

Re: Keeping eSATA drive alive

[Sandog]

In auto memory mode with 1333 1.7V RAM you can get lower latency. Whereas 1.5V sticks of 2x2GB were all CL9, 1.7V sticks will do CL7.

Newegg.com - 7, 1.7V, DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666), 4GB (2 x 2GB), 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM, Desktop Memory, Memory

I remember getting better Everest memory scores at 1066 CL7 than at what I am at now (1333 CL9). 1333 CL7 should be a good improvement.

As 1333 memory improves with lower latency/voltage, I hope Intel upgrades the BIOS to it. The most stable this board runs is in auto memory mode and this board will never support higher than 1333.

[preyingrazor]

Hi Sandog,

I still have the old 083 BIOS. Is it safe for me to overclock? What should I change the values to?

These are some screendumps: (Never overclocked before)



I'm running everything at stock frequencies right now. I sometimes overclock the graphics cards. The minimum / maximum temps you see above are after an extended burn-in of both the cpu and gpu and an hours worth of running crysis. So I expect the system can handle a little overclocking.

These are the specs:

CPU: Q6600 SLARC 1066 MHz FSB 8 MB L2 Cache 2.40 GHz
Motherboard: Intel Desktop Board DP45SG
GPU: 2x Palit Radeon HD 4850 512 MB (crossfireX)
RAM: KVR1066D3N7K2/4G 4GB 1066MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL7 DIMM (Kit of 2)
PSU: CoolerMaster eXtreme power 650W
Casing: Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case
HDD: WD VelociRaptor 300 GB, 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 10,000 RPM
DVD RW: Optiarc AD-7200S-0B 20x Internal DVDRWRAM Black Bare SATA
CPU HS: ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme Heat Sink with 2x Noctua NF-S12 1200RPM 120mm Silent Case Fan - 3 Pin

So, I'm looking for the BIOS values I need to change. Memory timings FSB etc

Should I use Everest to compare the memory before and after overclocking?

I'm a bit confused cos I get 5.6 as my windows experience index for memory, whereas my friend, who runs 667 MHz (dual-channel 1333 MHz) DDR2 gets 5.9.

Thanks a lot.

[DaveLessnau]

I just noticed this on the Desktop Control Center (DCC) site:

Intel® Desktop Control Center

Along with the blurb about the BIOS for the DP45SG not supporting the DCC yet, there's now a new beta for the DX58SO board:

"v4.4 beta with auto-tuning for Microsoft Windows XP* (32bit and 64bit) and Vista* (32bit and 64bit)"

According to that site, 11 boards that came out prior to ours have this software. The board that came out after ours, not only has the software, it has another, new, beta for the software. Yet, we still have nothing.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

I just noticed this on the Desktop Control Center (DCC) site:

Intel® Desktop Control Center

Along with the blurb about the BIOS for the DP45SG not supporting the DCC yet, there's now a new beta for the DX58SO board:

"v4.4 beta with auto-tuning for Microsoft Windows XP* (32bit and 64bit) and Vista* (32bit and 64bit)"

According to that site, 11 boards that came out prior to ours have this software. The board that came out after ours, not only has the software, it has another, new, beta for the software. Yet, we still have nothing.

Frustrating! Overclocking would be a whole lot easier if they came out with it already.

[BluntSpoon]

I think everyone from this forum should email Intel and complain.

Maybe they will realize that there are some people that want to make this mobo work for them.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by BluntSpoon

I think everyone from this forum should email Intel and complain.

Maybe they will realize that there are some people that want to make this mobo work for them.

Right after the last post I did.

Hi,

I was wondering when you would have a version out for the DP45SG. I understand you are waiting for a compatible BIOS. Any ETA on that?

There are hundreds of users waiting for this.

Thanks.

To: idccfeedback@intel.com

[BluntSpoon]

Originally Posted by preyingrazor

Right after the last post I did.

To: idccfeedback@intel.com

I have sent my email.

[DaveLessnau]

Anyone else getting "Error processing SSI file" messages all over Intel's site for the DP45SG:

Intel ® -

I'm seeing it with both IE and Firefox (it was fine earlier today).

EDIT: and, yes, I've sent my email, too.