Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

[BluntSpoon]

Originally Posted by DaveLessnau

Anyone else getting "Error processing SSI file" messages all over Intel's site for the DP45SG:


I'm seeing it with both IE and Firefox (it was fine earlier today).

Yeah - I'm getting it in Chrome... Weird

[hawkeyelom]

Yep,
Error there last night---

Note:
I contacted Intel a couple of months ago about the lack of DCC--escalated and even had someone from Intel call me. pointed out that even new boards had it!

My belief is that there is something different in the board that makes using the DCC difficult or impossible--I doubt we will ever see it---

Maby we should all demand our money back??

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by hawkeyelom

Yep,
Error there last night---

Note:
I contacted Intel a couple of months ago about the lack of DCC--escalated and even had someone from Intel call me. pointed out that even new boards had it!

My belief is that there is something different in the board that makes using the DCC difficult or impossible--I doubt we will ever see it---

Maby we should all demand our money back??

Hey are you close to Hillsboro? Maybe you could pay Intel a visit lol. One of the Intel employee's who responded a couple of times (Matt) told one customer he may never see IDCC for this product but I hope the interest generated here helps persuade Intel to continue working on it. IDCC is a nice program but it is not necessary like drivers or BIOS updates and falls under value-added software so less work goes into it. I remember it took almost a year or more for an update to come out for IDCC when I had a Bad Axe. I also think Intel has fallen behind. IMO the X48 board is still not reached a proper stage after a year already. Intel is also having to design the software for XP/Vista32/Vista64. It might be a long while before it comes out so I would not let myself get upset over it.

[TCRG tv]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Hey are you close to Hillsboro? Maybe you could pay Intel a visit lol. One of the Intel employee's who responded a couple of times (Matt) told one customer he may never see IDCC for this product but I hope the interest generated here helps persuade Intel to continue working on it. IDCC is a nice program but it is not necessary like drivers or BIOS updates and falls under value-added software so less work goes into it. I remember it took almost a year or more for an update to come out for IDCC when I had a Bad Axe. I also think Intel has fallen behind. IMO the X48 board is still not reached a proper stage after a year already. Intel is also having to design the software for XP/Vista32/Vista64. It might be a long while before it comes out so I would not let myself get upset over it.

yeah I remember reading that post too Sandog. I think they said it wouldn't be before January if at all.

Sent my IDCC email too.

[Sandog]

I installed my DDR3 1600 CL7 sticks in again last night and had terrible luck. Wouldn't start/restart, always got a blank monitor when I turn on the computer. Sucks and I tried several voltage and latency settings. I still get bad results or no better than I can with my cheapo 1333 1.5V sticks. Luckily I am fine with running at 1333 1.5V as you know it is stable, fast, and cool. One day when somebody else is nice enough to prove to me they can run 2x2GB 1333 CL7 or lower sticks on this board, I might upgrade. Back to trying to offload my $300 DDR3 1600 sticks again.

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by preyingrazor

Hi Sandog,

I still have the old 083 BIOS. Is it safe for me to overclock? What should I change the values to?


Thanks a lot.

You should be able to do wonders running the memory at 1066. Just manually adjust the processor host frequency up to 333 or a little higher a step at a time and run Windows. If it doesn't crash you are good. I wouldn't mess with any voltages and I would try this with leaving memory in auto. I can OC with my 1.5V sticks at least for a little while

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by Sandog

...IDCC is a nice program but it is not necessary like drivers or BIOS updates and falls under value-added software so less work goes into it. I remember it took almost a year or more for an update to come out for IDCC when I had a Bad Axe. I also think Intel has fallen behind. IMO the X48 board is still not reached a proper stage after a year already. Intel is also having to design the software for XP/Vista32/Vista64. It might be a long while before it comes out so I would not let myself get upset over it.

The thing is, it's not just the Desktop Control Center that's missing. There's no Dolby Control Center (they claim it's "just" not there for x64 operating systems (which fact is not mentioned anywhere) -- but according to their downloads page, it only exists for 4 motherboards: DG33TL, DP35DP, DX38BT, and DX48BT:

Download Software, Drivers and Utilities Search Results

). The Integrator Assistant only exists for x86 operating systems:

Intel® Integrator Assistant

The eSATA port on the back of the motherboard doesn't work properly after the system has slept, and the current state of the BIOS essentially prohibits any kind of over-clocking.

For me, none of these are killers. But, three of the reasons I ended up choosing this board are on that MIA list: Desktop Control Center, Dolby Control Center, and eSATA support (if I were an over-clocker, I'd be really upset). Individually, these are mere irritations and can be worked around (mostly). But, they add up. Right now, chopped liver and red-headed step-children keep coming to mind.

EDIT: An additional note on the Dolby Control Center. According to:

Intel® Desktop Board DX48BT2Â*Dolby* Control Center

There seems to be only one version of the thing (version 1.2.1001) and it was last released almost a year ago: 01/25/2008. So, unless this thing has been folded into the IDT Audio Control Panel available on the downloads page for the DP45SG, I doubt we'll ever see it. Does anyone with a 32-bit OS see the Dolby Control Center?

[Sandog]

Dolby Control Center was suppose to come out for the old Sigmatel codec. Our board has the newest IDT codec. Even though IDT bought Sigmatel I believe, I'm not sure we will see the Dolby Control Center any longer. There is a settings area in the IDT control panel that allows you to enable Dolby. I don't have a 5.1 system hooked up so maybe I would see more.

Oh, I DL one of those links and it is the same type of software we have. I did not see the Dolby Control Center in the files DL and the readme.doc did not mention it either, just to remove old IAS.

[hawkeyelom]

Re my location, I am in Beaverton, Oregon close to Intel--I used to work for them as a contractor afew years ago doing software integration for their processors & mmx---I have a call into a friend at Intel, who I will talk to about this mess.

Dolby Control Center: I have two old Yamaha speakers, which still sound pretty good, and the dolby control center is installed and works, but does not offer much with just two speakers.., OS is Vista Ultimate 32 bit...

O: I am skipping the latest Bios update as everything seems to work OK and as specified in my system. I assume I could install the next bios update after 106 without having to install 106?? correct?

[Tiger90]

I am planning to install this board and use Vista Ultimate 64-bit. I have a new Bluray/HD DVD combo to drive my home theatre. Does anyone have any first hand experience with this board driving a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker setup using the SPDIF port? All these posts around the Dolby Control Center have me a bit worried. Maybe I don't fully understand the issue being discussed.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by hawkeyelom

O: I am skipping the latest Bios update as everything seems to work OK and as specified in my system. I assume I could install the next bios update after 106 without having to install 106?? correct?

Yes, you won't have to install 106. It's not like game patches. The BIOS is released as complete standalone versions. But in this boards case the completeness still has much to be desired.

Originally Posted by Sandog

You should be able to do wonders running the memory at 1066. Just manually adjust the processor host frequency up to 333 or a little higher a step at a time and run Windows. If it doesn't crash you are good. I wouldn't mess with any voltages and I would try this with leaving memory in auto. I can OC with my 1.5V sticks at least for a little while

Thanks for that! I thought I HAD to change the memory if I changed the host frequency. Now I can do it with peace of mind 333 sounds good. I'll let you know how it goes.

Originally Posted by TCRG tv

Sent my IDCC email too.

Loving the mass mail guys! They will surely start to wonder what in Moore's world is going on

Originally Posted by BluntSpoon

Yeah - I'm getting it in Chrome... Weird

Getting it too.

Maybe they were using a DP45SG as their server motherboard and they pushed a BIOS update on it that it didn't like

[preyingrazor]

i just overclocked it (didn't work btw, bios shows new clock but no diagnostic software does) and now my ethernet port won't connect to my network

I remember having read something about that in this thread. Time to put google to the test.

Edit: Guys no luck what do i do to make my ethernet work again. i've tried uninstalling reinstalling drivers, disabling lan from bios and re-enabling. sigh i should never have overclocked. i've set bios to optimal values again. still i get the limited or no connectivity problem.

[DaveLessnau]

Originally Posted by preyingrazor

i just overclocked it (didn't work btw, bios shows new clock but no diagnostic software does) and now my ethernet port won't connect to my network

I remember having read something about that in this thread. Time to put google to the test.

Edit: Guys no luck what do i do to make my ethernet work again. i've tried uninstalling reinstalling drivers, disabling lan from bios and re-enabling. sigh i should never have overclocked. i've set bios to optimal values again. still i get the limited or no connectivity problem.

I remember seeing some posts about ethernet cutouts, but I don't think they were related to overclocking. But, just to make sure you're back to default values for the processor, make sure you change the prompt: "Do You Wish to Continue?" (on the Processor Overrides page of the BIOS) back to "No." If you leave it at "Yes," it doesn't seem to matter that the actual values on that page might be default: you'll be stuck (in my experience, anyway) at 2GHz in your OS.

EDIT: I found the following about Ethernet issues in one of Sandog's old posts here (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/f41/in...#post1421292):

"I am not sure who had the networking issue but I had the same issue he was having again when I updated my BIOS. What happens is you do not get an internet connection in Vista (cannot connect to DNS or something server). The mobo is assigning the wrong address. See if you have an address beginning with 169.??? If so then here's what you do.
1. Turn off computer and unplug AC from computer.
2. Disconnect power, ethernet cable, modem cable from modem.
3. Plug in modem power for 15s min. and unplug.
4. Plug in modem cable.
5. Plug in modem power and wait for all LED's.
6. Plug in modem ethernet.
7. Plug in AC to computer and reboot."

[hawkeyelom]

re internet problem--unplug your router and modem, wait at least ten seconds and reconnect power to both. and try internet again.---i doubt if BIOs is your problem.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Good tip!

I found that in my Device Manager/Network adapters/Properties>Power Management menu. I unclicked the two 'wake on LAN' options. I also have boot from LAN disabled in BIOS.

I am not sure who had the networking issue but I had the same issue he was having again when I updated my BIOS. What happens is you do not get an internet connection in Vista (cannot connect to DNS or something server). The mobo is assigning the wrong address. See if you have an address beginning with 169.??? If so then here's what you do.
1. Turn off computer and unplug AC from computer.
2. Disconnect power, ethernet cable, modem cable from modem.
3. Plug in modem power for 15s min. and unplug.
4. Plug in modem cable.
5. Plug in modem power and wait for all LED's.
6. Plug in modem ethernet.
7. Plug in AC to computer and reboot.

This works for me. I get my correct IP address back and I'm good to go.

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH got it working again! Phew! Woe betide me if I ever try to overclock this board ever again! Gave me quite a scare, and didn't even work. I had some funny startups too. The pc would go off then come back on then go off then come back on. WEIRD! and sometimes when I tried to get into the BIOS it would say that a failed POST was detected, press n to enter bios. press y to revert to previous settings.

Edit: Thanks for the help guys! Much appreciated!