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Old 12-22-2008, 04:31 PM   #841
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Seems to be a common topic in forums and it appears they are different. I would leave them both on if I could.

I didn't notice C1E is disabled (probably is like yours) but when I am idling I go to x6mult. so it works the same IMO. I guess from reading above EIST is incremental but I have not noticed anything between x6/2GHz and X9/3GHz on my computer. BTW, my CPU idle temps almost equal my ambient room temp. so however it's working I'm happy.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:08 PM   #842
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Looking at the BIOS Settings Glossary, it appears that the C1E setting is in the BIOS Maintenance menu (reached by changing the BIOS jumpers from their default 1:2 setting to 2:3). I haven't actually looked there yet, though.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:15 PM   #843
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

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it appears that the C1E setting is in the BIOS Maintenance menu
I can confirm this for the D975XBX2 board. C1E option is hidden (but enabled here) by default.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:14 PM   #844
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Looking at the BIOS Settings Glossary, it appears that the C1E setting is in the BIOS Maintenance menu (reached by changing the BIOS jumpers from their default 1:2 setting to 2:3). I haven't actually looked there yet, though.
Well, I switched the BIOS jumper over to 2:3 and booted up into the Maintenance menu. There's no C1E setting in the DP45SG's 0106 BIOS. That Maintenance tab looks like this:

Clear BIOS Passwords.......
Fixed Disk Boot Sector.....[Normal]

Intel Enhanced Debug.......[Disable]
Failsafe Watchdog..........[Enable]

Processor Stepping.........0001067A
Microcode Revision.........0A07
Ratio Actual Value.........9
Board ID...................BLKDP45SG

And that's it.

One side note: the manual is a bit inconsistent about the BIOS Jumper. On page 53, there's a sketch of where the BIOS Jumper is and its orientation (front of the motherboard (near the drives) with pin 1 on the left (as you look from the front of the motherboard to the rear) and pin 3 on the right). That sketch is correct. But, at the top of the very next page, there are blowups of the jumper itself. All of them are reversed from the orientation on page 53: so, they show pin 1 on the right and pin 3 on the left.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:21 PM   #845
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Maybe you need the Intel Integrator Toolkit Framework Edition then. It'll show you all BIOS settings and you can apply these to your BIOS then.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:13 PM   #846
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Maybe you need the Intel Integrator Toolkit Framework Edition then. It'll show you all BIOS settings and you can apply these to your BIOS then.
I should have thought of checking that myself since I've got it here. Double-checking all the settings shows no C1E anywhere in the BIOS. The Maintenance tab in the Integrator Toolkit shows the same three modifiable settings that I indicated above. Interesting.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:52 PM   #847
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One side note: the manual is a bit inconsistent about the BIOS Jumper. On page 53, there's a sketch of where the BIOS Jumper is and its orientation (front of the motherboard (near the drives) with pin 1 on the left (as you look from the front of the motherboard to the rear) and pin 3 on the right). That sketch is correct. But, at the top of the very next page, there are blowups of the jumper itself. All of them are reversed from the orientation on page 53: so, they show pin 1 on the right and pin 3 on the left.

I remember a couple of weeks ago I told somebody here that the jumper should go on pins2-3 which are closest to the DIMM sockets but I was wrong. I found out after I got my computer all put back together when I installed my new Thermalright HSF and power supply that pins2-3 are towards the SATA connectors. I could have swore it was the other way around. I made a long cable and put the jumper on the end of the cable. My cable has 1 red wire and 2 black wires solders to a 3pin header I hang off the mobo.

Well, in other news I hastily got my video card ordered. Thought it would be in January. It might be cheaper later or better models later but getting it direct from EVGA and before the new year makes the price suitable.

http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/896-P3-1257-AR.pdf
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:44 AM   #848
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

[ I made a long cable and put the jumper on the end of the cable. My cable has 1 red wire and 2 black wires solders to a 3pin header I hang off the mobo.]

Sorry to be so dumb, but could you explain what is meant by this?

you hang the wire off the header?? It sounds like you put the jumper on the end of a wire to make it easier to find, but I don't understand: the hang off the motherboard or about the header?
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:53 AM   #849
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yeah I remember reading that post too Sandog. I think they said it wouldn't be before January if at all.

Sent my IDCC email too.
Hi All,

Responce from Intel regarding IDCC.

"Thanks for sending the forum posting. I know it's frustrating to see that there are two versions of IDCC posted for the DX58SO motherboard, while there are no versions available for the DP45SG. As the product manager for IDCC, I'm actively working to close this gap. Please let your friends on the forum know that Intel hasn't forgotten about them and it will take at least until the end of January to get this resolved.

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Old 12-23-2008, 02:04 AM   #850
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

I'm new to this forum and just experienced building my first machine as per spec's below:

Zalman HD-135 Chassis - pulled stock fans and replaced with Silenx fans
DP45SG
Quad Core 2.66Ghz
Zalman CNPS8700 NT CPU cooler
Passive Cooled ASUS Nvidia 8600GT
eSTAT boot to a 1TB drive
4GB RAM (not sure what brand)
Running at 32"F

I've hit a few issues and looking for some advise !!

I've tried BIOS 102 and recently 106 but rolled back to 93 on each occasion because I could not get Vista x86 / x64 or Win7 x64 to resume from sleep. I'm OK sticking with 93 as it resumes from sleep, neither 102 or 106 resolved my biggest issue which is audio related.

I'm using the rear SPDIF which is connected to a Harmon Kardon (HK) AVR635If I close, pause or stop an Audio source like Zune, WMP11 or Media Center I hear constant popping noises through the HK until I resume audio or adjust volume level in the system tray. Sometimes the HK will hang up and I have to remove Power to recover.

I was using an Xbox Elite with a SPDIF connection to the HK for a long time without issues, I know this is not a HK issue. This appears to be a problem with the DP45SG, audio driver or BIOS. I'm waiting patiently on a fix but have not seen this issue appear on forums.

How does one go about ensuring this is tracked by Intel for resolution?

If anyone has advise or seen similar issues I'd appreciate some guidance.

Thanks
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:54 AM   #851
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I've tried BIOS 102 and recently 106 but rolled back to 93 on each occasion because I could not get Vista x86 / x64 or Win7 x64 to resume from sleep. I'm OK sticking with 93 as it resumes from sleep, neither 102 or 106 resolved my biggest issue which is audio related.

I'm using the rear SPDIF which is connected to a Harmon Kardon (HK) AVR635If I close, pause or stop an Audio source like Zune, WMP11 or Media Center I hear constant popping noises through the HK until I resume audio or adjust volume level in the system tray. Sometimes the HK will hang up and I have to remove Power to recover.

I was using an Xbox Elite with a SPDIF connection to the HK for a long time without issues, I know this is not a HK issue. This appears to be a problem with the DP45SG, audio driver or BIOS. I'm waiting patiently on a fix but have not seen this issue appear on forums.

How does one go about ensuring this is tracked by Intel for resolution?

If anyone has advise or seen similar issues I'd appreciate some guidance.

Thanks
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To get a problem into Intel's Technical Support system, try:

Intel Corporation - Welcome to E-mail Support

They'll send you an automated "try this" type of reply. If nothing on that helps, then you click on a button at the bottom saying Escalate. After that, a human enters the works.

Regarding the SPDIF connection: during my short experiment with it, I didn't have your popping noises after I turned off an audio source. I did start to get some crackling noise while a source was playing (randomly). That's what caused me to revert back to my analog cables. I still can't see how I (we) are getting interference sounds through a digital optical connection. Since your issue sounds much more reproducible than mine, I'd definitely contact Intel about it. Since Vista x64 warned me once that this was causing problems, you might try going under Control Panel | Sounds and then into Properties for the SPDIF device and Disabling System Effects on the Effects page (just to see if it helps).

About Sleep: I've never had any problem going into or out of Sleep with this motherboard (one of the things I've been very happy about). What were the symptoms?
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:57 AM   #852
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I remember a couple of weeks ago I told somebody here that the jumper should go on pins2-3 which are closest to the DIMM sockets but I was wrong. I found out after I got my computer all put back together when I installed my new Thermalright HSF and power supply that pins2-3 are towards the SATA connectors. I could have swore it was the other way around. I made a long cable and put the jumper on the end of the cable. My cable has 1 red wire and 2 black wires solders to a 3pin header I hang off the mobo.
Definitely a good idea. Reaching that jumper is a bit tough in my Solo case (cramped). Any pictures or methodology?
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:46 AM   #853
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Definitely a good idea. Reaching that jumper is a bit tough in my Solo case (cramped). Any pictures or methodology?
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:10 AM   #854
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Since Intel mentioned support for 1333 1.7V memory in the last BIOS and this type of memory goes down to CL7 I got interested. Now I am thinking that if you had this memory installed and ran auto-mode, the board would still select CL9 because this is the JEDEC spec for 1333. I am sure somebody will get around to trying this out someday, I would llke to know the answer.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:14 PM   #855
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To get a problem into Intel's Technical Support system, try:

Intel Corporation - Welcome to E-mail Support

They'll send you an automated "try this" type of reply. If nothing on that helps, then you click on a button at the bottom saying Escalate. After that, a human enters the works.

Regarding the SPDIF connection: during my short experiment with it, I didn't have your popping noises after I turned off an audio source. I did start to get some crackling noise while a source was playing (randomly). That's what caused me to revert back to my analog cables. I still can't see how I (we) are getting interference sounds through a digital optical connection. Since your issue sounds much more reproducible than mine, I'd definitely contact Intel about it. Since Vista x64 warned me once that this was causing problems, you might try going under Control Panel | Sounds and then into Properties for the SPDIF device and Disabling System Effects on the Effects page (just to see if it helps).

About Sleep: I've never had any problem going into or out of Sleep with this motherboard (one of the things I've been very happy about). What were the symptoms?
Thanks DaveLessnau for the reply.

I've tried adjusting the settings in the IDT Audio Control applet with no luck in the past. Independent of the cyclical popping noises during audio stop or pause the sound quality is excellent for Blu-Ray playback with full DTS support, Vista Media Center and general music, I don't hear any audio distortion as you describe.

Again I have tried Vista x86 / x64 and Win7, numerous installs without resolution to my audio issues.

I’ve used the url you provided and posted a question to Intel support. I’ll update the forum if I achieve resolution.

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