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Old 12-31-2008, 10:47 AM   #931
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Here's some related info. posted on IDCC from Matt at Intel. I'm pretty sure he meant P45, not G45.
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - ** OFFICIAL ** Intel DX38BT & DX48BT2 BoneTrail Thread

It appears IDCC is not a unified program and when Intel starts developing IDCC for a new platform, it means the end of updates for previous platforms.
According to the member above, IDCC is hosed for the X48 still. If/when we see IDCC for this board, hope it is not the last because in my experience it will still have errors when it comes out. My best experience with IDCC was after 2 revisions for the BadAxe. It was hosed all the way through with the D875PBZLK as far as making changes to BIOS. We will be lucky if it just opens and closes properly, shows freq./voltages properly, and can adjust fan speed. Really, expecting IDCC to OC the Skyburg when the board doesn't even like non-auto RAM settings would be ridiculous.
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:34 PM   #932
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

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Thanks for the advice (you and others).

I have a POST card and new memory on order from newegg. If neither of those help, I'll have to contact Intel.
Well memory arrived and it didn't fix the problem. The post card I ordered at the same time is not here thanks to UPS. Both things were ~300 miles away about 12 hours ago. One piece arrived an hour ago at my house, at the same time the other piece arrived several thousand miles to the east in Louisville, KY.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:51 PM   #933
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I haven't used this board with XP. It's odd that the issue would just show up under XP and not under Vista. Do you have an actual sound card installed on the board? Or, just the onboard audio? If you have a sound card, did you install its drivers? If you don't have a sound card, then about the only other thing I can suggest is running Intel's INF drivers for the chipset and see if it picks anything up:

Oh, are you getting sound?
Thanks a lot,DaveLessnan.
I can get sound from IDT audio,and I can saw IDT code in Device Manager,and the audio could work well.
Besides,I only use on board audio,and the latest INF driver was installed.
I suspect the issue is caused by another device but not on board audio.
Good news is that after intalling the driver of Asus ATI 4670 video card,the issue can be fixed,and it showed "ATI function driver for High Definition Audio - ATI AA01" in Windows Device Manager. I used the ATI official 4670 driver before. It seems the ATI official driver don't include "High Definition Audio".
Till now,Intel DP45SG work very well and very stable.
It is a very good board.

Thanks anain for your great help.
And nice to meet you,SanDog.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:55 PM   #934
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

I updated the Bios to 106 and still have the same problem: it will not post with all 4 sticks of ram installed. I set the voltage to 1.75 and it boots and runs fine with 2 gigs. I then shut it down and added the other 2 ram modules and it does not post.

I was excited that the Windows based bios update worked as advertised, even it used the 'double boot feature'. Other than the name change, I do not see any difference so far. The only issue I had was the 4 ram sticks not working, and I still have the same problem.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:42 PM   #935
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I updated the Bios to 106 and still have the same problem: it will not post with all 4 sticks of ram installed. I set the voltage to 1.75 and it boots and runs fine with 2 gigs. I then shut it down and added the other 2 ram modules and it does not post.

I was excited that the Windows based bios update worked as advertised, even it used the 'double boot feature'. Other than the name change, I do not see any difference so far. The only issue I had was the 4 ram sticks not working, and I still have the same problem.
Would you try other DIMM from other vendors,such as Kingston,or Micron?
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:54 PM   #936
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I updated the Bios to 106 and still have the same problem: it will not post with all 4 sticks of ram installed. I set the voltage to 1.75 and it boots and runs fine with 2 gigs. I then shut it down and added the other 2 ram modules and it does not post.

I was excited that the Windows based bios update worked as advertised, even it used the 'double boot feature'. Other than the name change, I do not see any difference so far. The only issue I had was the 4 ram sticks not working, and I still have the same problem.
Maybe you can try to change the memory frequency from 1333MHz to 1066MHz,and see if the four DIMMs could work together or not?
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Old 01-01-2009, 07:24 AM   #937
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

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Here's an IntelBurnTest run. I did it at max. stress and 5 iterations this time. Under Linpack test results, all the numbers match which means a successful run. Check out the min. and max. core temps.


Ran it on my machine. Quite pleased with the max core temps. I applied a blob of thermal paste in the center and never used a blade like you though. That's probably why they are a bit on the higher side. Same thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heat sink though.





Can you run yours for 10 passes and paste the results here please? And is your ambient temperature less than 15 degrees C? Mine is 22 degrees centigrade.

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Here's some related info. posted on IDCC from Matt at Intel. I'm pretty sure he meant P45, not G45.
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - ** OFFICIAL ** Intel DX38BT & DX48BT2 BoneTrail Thread

It appears IDCC is not a unified program and when Intel starts developing IDCC for a new platform, it means the end of updates for previous platforms.
According to the member above, IDCC is hosed for the X48 still. If/when we see IDCC for this board, hope it is not the last because in my experience it will still have errors when it comes out. My best experience with IDCC was after 2 revisions for the BadAxe. It was hosed all the way through with the D875PBZLK as far as making changes to BIOS. We will be lucky if it just opens and closes properly, shows freq./voltages properly, and can adjust fan speed. Really, expecting IDCC to OC the Skyburg when the board doesn't even like non-auto RAM settings would be ridiculous.
End of Jan is what we're hoping for now for the Skyburg. That's what Intel says. If they fail to deliver we keep 'ing them till they do!!

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I updated the Bios to 106 and still have the same problem: it will not post with all 4 sticks of ram installed. I set the voltage to 1.75 and it boots and runs fine with 2 gigs. I then shut it down and added the other 2 ram modules and it does not post.

I was excited that the Windows based bios update worked as advertised, even it used the 'double boot feature'. Other than the name change, I do not see any difference so far. The only issue I had was the 4 ram sticks not working, and I still have the same problem.
Try to use RAM thats set for 1.5V.

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Old 01-01-2009, 10:57 AM   #940
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Re: Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

Well here is strange development: If I bump the ram voltage up to 1.75 and only use 3 sticks, it will POST and boot. If I add the 4th, it still will not POST. I tried all 4 sticks first and then pulled the 4th one out, and the system noticed the change of ram size and logged it to the event log.

Previously, I had been trying with the memory speed defaulting to 1066. With the voltage at 1.75, I can now run at 1333.

I wish I had some different ram with 1.5v to try. I do have 2X 256k sticks, but they are DDR2 and will not fit.

Anyone interested in some nice OCZ Reaper DDR3 modules? I can make you a good deal on 4 sticks!
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:39 AM   #941
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Well here is strange development: If I bump the ram voltage up to 1.75 and only use 3 sticks, it will POST and boot. If I add the 4th, it still will not POST. I tried all 4 sticks first and then pulled the 4th one out, and the system noticed the change of ram size and logged it to the event log.

Previously, I had been trying with the memory speed defaulting to 1066. With the voltage at 1.75, I can now run at 1333.

I wish I had some different ram with 1.5v to try. I do have 2X 256k sticks, but they are DDR2 and will not fit.

Anyone interested in some nice OCZ Reaper DDR3 modules? I can make you a good deal on 4 sticks!
Have you started a support thread with Intel?
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:09 PM   #942
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Ran it on my machine. Quite pleased with the max core temps. I applied a blob of thermal paste in the center and never used a blade like you though. That's probably why they are a bit on the higher side. Same thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heat sink though.

Can you run yours for 10 passes and paste the results here please? And is your ambient temperature less than 15 degrees C? Mine is 22 degrees centigrade.
You didn't go above 60C which is great. Did you enable error checking and what stress level did you use???

My room temp now is 64F/17.7C. Weather has gotten colder here the last two days but idle temps are the same.

Ten passes doesn't matter IMO for temp. readings, 5 is plenty but here you go.




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Old 01-01-2009, 08:29 PM   #943
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Well here is strange development: If I bump the ram voltage up to 1.75 and only use 3 sticks, it will POST and boot. If I add the 4th, it still will not POST. I tried all 4 sticks first and then pulled the 4th one out, and the system noticed the change of ram size and logged it to the event log.

Previously, I had been trying with the memory speed defaulting to 1066. With the voltage at 1.75, I can now run at 1333.

I wish I had some different ram with 1.5v to try. I do have 2X 256k sticks, but they are DDR2 and will not fit.

Anyone interested in some nice OCZ Reaper DDR3 modules? I can make you a good deal on 4 sticks!
By default,your DIMMs are rated to run at 1333MHz with 6-6-6-18 timings at 1.75v. If you only run well with three DIMMs but not four DIMMs,it is better to check the issue with Intel to see if DP45SG can support OCZ Reaper HPC 2x1GB DDR3-1333 Memory Kit (Model: OCZ3RPR13332GK) with all four DIMMs stuffed or not?
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:22 PM   #944
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Well here is strange development: If I bump the ram voltage up to 1.75 and only use 3 sticks, it will POST and boot. If I add the 4th, it still will not POST. I tried all 4 sticks first and then pulled the 4th one out, and the system noticed the change of ram size and logged it to the event log.

Previously, I had been trying with the memory speed defaulting to 1066. With the voltage at 1.75, I can now run at 1333.

I wish I had some different ram with 1.5v to try. I do have 2X 256k sticks, but they are DDR2 and will not fit.

Anyone interested in some nice OCZ Reaper DDR3 modules? I can make you a good deal on 4 sticks!
One interesting note is that these modules are rated for 1.75v, which is higher than the 1.5v which most mother board's manufacturers (including Intel) tend to use. The tradeoff here is that the overclocking potential will generate more heat, hence the need for the fancy heatspreaders. The other worthwhile comment is that 1333MHz modules by other companies are typically found to be CAS 9 (though you can find a few at CAS 7), but having a CAS 6 here is quite an achievement by OCZ.

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You didn't go above 60C which is great. Did you enable error checking and what stress level did you use???

My room temp now is 64F/17.7C. Weather has gotten colder here the last two days but idle temps are the same.

Ten passes doesn't matter IMO for temp. readings, 5 is plenty but here you go.
Yes, I turned on error checking and used (1) Maximum stress.

Wow! 17.7 degrees C. That is pretty darn cold for room temperature! You must be bundled up from head to toe. But kudos to you. I remember back in the day, I used to pump cold air from outside directly into my computer chassis by placing an inverted exhaust fan at an open window with the computer casing open and directly in front. This was to cool a paltry Ti 4200 AGP 8x card When my friends used to come over to visit they used to say that you'd freeze to death yourself but not let your graphics card even warm up. My answer to that used to be: Yeah baby!

I wanted to see your 10 pass result for the time taken. I wanted to compare it to my Q6600. I guess I could have just doubled your previous time taken. Thanks though.

On a different note, I successfully slipstreamed a WinXP with SP3 CD yesterday and set up RAID on two WD Caviar drives on a D845 board with ICH9R last night. If anyone wants to know how to get rid of floppy drives for a successful RAID setup in Win XP read this:

Integration of Intel's SATA AHCI and RAID drivers - MSFN Forums

So this has got me thinking about a SATA RAID with the VelociRaptor on the Skyburg. How much benefit do you guys think that would give me?
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