Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by OldDeadOne

preyingrazor,what kind of connectors do your cooler master extreme power supply have? Thinking about getting one.

Sorry for the late reply. Forum notifications seem not to be working for me anymore.

It has your standard processor and motherboard power connectors.
x2 6-pin PCI-e power connectors
x1 floppy power connector
x3 SATA power connectors
and so MANY molex connectors you'l create pretty flowers from the wires (about 6 i think)

[CrowdAds]

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by Tiger90

<<Aren't you going to RAID 0 at least 2 of your drives? Your two Caviars will run like a VelociRaptor>>

Yes, RAID 0 is in the plans. I decided to use Ghost on this build to save the state of the system at each significant milestone. My case has 1 additonal bay so I plan to get a 4th WD Caviar and use my Ghost image to restore to a RAID 0 setup.

That's great!

Btw, is it possible to RAID 0 four drives? So theoretically performance would be 4 times that of a single drive. How many hard drives can you do this with before SATA bus bandwidth becomes a bottleneck?

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by OldDeadOne

reidcc: dunno about a 1x4 mollex connection on the motherboard,hope someone chimes on this(maybe you might want to try a bios upgrade as well?)

If you have a spare Molex connector, do not be stingy. Connect it to your motherboard. If you have other devices like fans and drives connected on the same chain, it doesn't matter. Typical drives are 9W which means a current draw of only 0.75A.

Needless to say, your motherboard will appreciate the extra power and should go some way to improve system stability.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by reidcc

Thx Old Dead One!!!

FINALLY!!! After an hour of $%^&ing around trying to get this POS to post and load a CD- it finally allowed me to boot to Vista.....

.....I figured that yes 0093 is old, but it seems to be what most have said is the best stable BIOS.

Thanks All
Chris

Glad to see you got it working. Congrats!

[Tiger90]

Originally Posted by preyingrazor

That's great!

Btw, is it possible to RAID 0 four drives? So theoretically performance would be 4 times that of a single drive. How many hard drives can you do this with before SATA bus bandwidth becomes a bottleneck?

I don't know of a max for RAID 0 but with every disk added there is another potential point of failure. If 1 of the disk fails there is no recovering. I am planning to setup 2 RAID 0 with 2 disks each. A friend suggested RAID 5 instead of 4 disks in RAID 0. Apparently I would lose a disk of space but be able to recover from a failure. This is not really interesting to me since I have the system drive backed up with Ghost and the rest of the data is music, games and video of which the only thing I care about is the ripped music which is also backed up.

[preyingrazor]

Originally Posted by Tiger90

I don't know of a max for RAID 0 but with every disk added there is another potential point of failure. If 1 of the disk fails there is no recovering. I am planning to setup 2 RAID 0 with 2 disks each. A friend suggested RAID 5 instead of 4 disks in RAID 0. Apparently I would lose a disk of space but be able to recover from a failure. This is not really interesting to me since I have the system drive backed up with Ghost and the rest of the data is music, games and video of which the only thing I care about is the ripped music which is also backed up.

If you use new quality WD drives and store all your important data on an external USB / eSATA drive (0.5 - 1 TB) then drive failure is the least of your concerns. If any drive does fail, you'll just RMA it for a new one. Reinstalling isn't that much of a hassle. Half day job at max. Besides, like I said, high quality drives that have a MTBF of over a million hours should work without a hiccup.

You say you're going to setup 2 RAID 0's. If either of your RAIDs becomes corrupt you'll probably need to reinstall your OS again anyway. So why not go for the brute performance of 4 drives in RAID 0. Think easily 150MB/s transfer rates and above.

[noochman]

Originally Posted by noochman

mobo DP45SG (402)
cpu intel e8400 wolfdale
memory crucial pc3-10600 1333 cl9 1.5v (2x2gb)
bfg geforce 9800 GTX+
thermaltake toughpower 850w psu

i hooked up all my parts. i used hdd's from a previous system (D975XBX2 mobo) which already had XP pro installed. immediately updated bios to (106) with .exe bios update. re-formatted hdd's; re-installed XP pro. got the system configured as desired. no issues, piece of cake!

once i attempted to install or run pc games, discovered system was extremely un-stable. BSOD! random restarts. system freezes. skipping / stuttering sounds. had to seek out support and found this board.

took me a couple days to read thru all 72 pages! decided trying to set memomory from 1333 9-9-9-24 (automatic default) to 1066 7-7-7-20. i could only choose 1.55V? 1.50 was not an option? i left memory voltage to default; haven't verified what default is? SYSTEM immediately became stable, no more crashing. sound still sucked.

again, based on previous advice, used front panel hd audio connector instead of ac97 connector. sound issues solved!

haven't had any LAN issues, nor have i had any cold start automatic reboot since manually setting the memory timing. nor didn't it happen prior either, but i went immediately to 106 on my 1st post? < i'm knocking wood, knock! knock! knock>

i don't have warm fuzzy's about this mobo? but, for the moment, seems ok. thanks for all the input on this board.

a follow-up to my post on the 72nd page ... contacted crucial about their suggested memory for dp45sg

Crucial 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 memory module
CT2KIT25664BA1339
Module Size: 4GB kit (2GBx2)
Package: 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR3 PC3-10600
Specs: DDR3 PC3-10600 • CL=9 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR3-1333 • 1.5V • 256Meg x 64

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Hello, my name is Darcy . How may I help you?

noochman: recently purchased CT2KIT25664BA1339 for intel motherboard DP45SG (used Crucial Memory Advisor™ tool)

noochman: I had to manually set memory frequency from 1333 Mhz to 1066 Mhz; and tCL - tRCD - tRP - tRASmin from 9-9-9-24 to 7-7-7-20 to run my Intel DP45SG motherboard stable.

Darcy : One moment, please, while I review your inquiry.

noochman: there are other default memory values i did not change. does crucial provide suggested manual configurations for the settings i indicate, or for others i did not change?

noochman:
Performance Memory Profiles Manual - User Defined
System Memory Speed 1066 Mhz
Current Memory Setting 7-7-7-20
Reference Frequency [Default]

Memory Frequency 1066 Mhz
tCL 7
tRCD 7
tRP 7
tRASmin 20
tWR 8
tRFC 48
tWTR 4
tRRD 4
tRTP 4
Memory Voltage [Default]

Total Memory 4096 MB DDR3
Memory Mode Dual Channel
Memory Channel A
Slot 0: 2048 MB (DDR3 1066) SPD: 7-7-7-20
Slot 1: not installed
Memory Channel B
Slot 0: 2048 MB (DDR3 1066) SPD: 7-7-7-20
Slot 1: not installed

Darcy : I am not technical enough to answer your question about our DDR3. I would recommend calling our technical support team.

Darcy : This issue will require some in-depth troubleshooting. To ensure that you get the detailed assistance you need, please contact our Technical Support department at 1-800-336-8896 (U.S. and Canada only) or at 208-363-5790. Contact hours are Monday through Friday from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. (Mountain Time).

noochman: thanks

Darcy : You're welcome. It was my pleasure to help, and I hope you were delighted with my service today. Thank you for visiting Crucial.com. Have a wonderful day.

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called technical support, explained what i listed above, response was simply SPD? chip sets memory automatically for CT2KIT25664BA1339. changing any values will compromise the module. Crucial does not advise manually setting memory configuration for non - Ballistix modules.

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based on this, i don't gamble - i'll use the crucial in another build, and i have acquired and replaced crucial memory with ...

Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model KVR1066D3N7/1G (4 sticks = 4GB total installed)
Cas Latency: 7
Timing: 7-7-7
Voltage: 1.5V
Model #: KVR1066D3N7/1G
Item #: N82E16820134489

this is the 1st time "Crucial Memory Advisor™ tool" didn't work as expected. the Kingston memory i purcahsed is running great. bios was set back to automatic before switching memory.

[riffer]

Originally Posted by noochman

a follow-up to my post on the 72nd page ... contacted crucial about their suggested memory for dp45sg

Crucial 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 memory module
CT2KIT25664BA1339
Module Size: 4GB kit (2GBx2)
Package: 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR3 PC3-10600
Specs: DDR3 PC3-10600 • CL=9 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR3-1333 • 1.5V • 256Meg x 64

....

I have those same modules and have no problem running as per spec 9-9-9-24 @1333 @1.5V (automatically detected).

[riffer]

Funny GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR review from Newegg:

F.N.
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg 1/20/2009 11:12:32 AM Likeable


Pros: Very well made, zero issues, very stable, decent layout, compact.

Cons: None...should have gotten this one from the outset.

Other Thoughts: Replaced a new but "Extreme"ly disappointing MB with this one, it's vastly better even though it was 50 USD cheaper.

And, if it isn't obvious which board he is "Extreme"ly disappointed with, check out the reviews of the DP45SG, and you will notice a review by F.N.

I didn't check the 70+ pages of this thread to see if he/she posted here

[noochman]

Originally Posted by riffer

I am thinking of trying out Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit and wondered if anyone was having problems with it (other than no 64 bit Dolby software).

edit - If it is running okay, please comment as well.

Riffer - have you tried windows XP 32bit? have CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB (2 x 2GB) ran stable with windows XP 32bit? i did not encoubter any issues till attempting to patch 'company of hereos'; and attempting to play 'left 4 dead'. everything else formatted, installed, updated with out incident till then. and, maybe there's a conflict with my DDR3 nvidia card? i don't have the answers.

[riffer]

Originally Posted by noochman

Riffer - have you tried windows XP 32bit? have CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB (2 x 2GB) ran stable with windows XP 32bit? i did not encoubter any issues till attempting to patch 'company of hereos'; and attempting to play 'left 4 dead'. everything else formatted, installed, updated with out incident till then. and, maybe there's a conflict with my DDR3 nvidia card? i don't have the answers.

I'm using Windows XP 32 bit now without problem.

I tried Vista 32, to see if I could get my SCSI boot drive to work with the onboard SATA controller, but it didn't (BSOD), so I went back to XP. I'll continue to use an add on controller.

I'm lucky I have a spare drive so I can experiment without changing my XP setup. I'll try Windows 7 when I get a chance.

[Sandog]

For anybody who wants/needs an extra jumper for this board you can order one here:

Motherboard 2.54mm Standard Jumper w/ Easy Pull Tab Products Model: JUMPER-TAB [JUMPER-TAB] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come

[Sandog]

New list of 2x2GB DDR3 1333 1.5V.

Newegg.com - 9, 1.5V, 4GB (2 x 2GB), 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM, Desktop Memory, Memory, Computer Hardware

Great prices, mine costs $79.

I tried OCing with my 1600 DDR3 memory again last night. Since this board doesn't support above 1333 I tried setting the strap to 1066 and memory FSB to 1066 and low-latency/high-voltage and then cranked the CPU up to 400 FSB. It was broken even with the dual cycling. Back to 1333, 1.5V for me and probably for good unless a miraculous BIOS appears and I haven't already sold these 1600 sticks.

Also you can get the Intel Q9650 for $333 at NE.

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

I have to say this is the best system I have ever owned. It rules in speed, power, heat, and cost. It also is very dependable with 1333 1.5V RAM and works well with Vista 64. The audio is the best for onboard sound. Can't beat it.

[Sandog]

New list of 2x2GB DDR3 1333 1.5V.

Newegg.com - 9, 1.5V, 4GB (2 x 2GB), 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM, Desktop Memory, Memory, Computer Hardware

Great prices, mine costs $79.

I tried OCing with my 1600 DDR3 memory again last night. Since this board doesn't support above 1333 I tried setting the strap to 1066 and memory FSB to 1066 and low-latency/high-voltage and then cranked the CPU up to 400 FSB. It was broken even with the dual cycling. Back to 1333, 1.5V for me and probably for good unless a miraculous BIOS appears and I haven't already sold these 1600 sticks.

Also you can get the Intel Q9650 for $333 at NE.

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

I have to say this is the best system I have ever owned. It rules in speed, power, heat, and cost. It also is very dependable with 1333 1.5V RAM and works well with Vista 64. The audio is the best for onboard sound. Can't beat it.

Currently I am building a switch plate for my BIOS jumper and I am trying to upgrade to an EVGA GTX 285. That is all I can think of with the case itself. Maybe someday getting a 120Hz LCD might happen.

[PsyChoses]

Dear Sandog :

I noticed you got the same Mobo as I, and I am having same issues with BiOS, I upgraded to the Dec 12 version, had issues so I downgraded to Aug 19 version now I cannot re-upgrade to latest !!!!!

I made a bootable CD and am running iFlash it gets to 35% and tells me error updating, I tried this :

iflash /pf SG0106.bio /rb

the system powered down no fans running either and stayed down, so after 30 minutes I forced it down then up bios stayed @ old version :S

Help It's Urgent !!!!