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[giga_dude]

I agree with Hutter. I also run mushkin ram ok with aggresive settings and it seems that most users running Crucial, Kingston ram have inherent issues with the 875 chipset.

you might want to try increasing your vdimm to +2.75V

[CrowdAds]

[Steve3128]

Thanks guys,

I spoke to Kingston yesterday below is what he said. He was nice but what got me **** off a little was he made the statement that the 2-3-2-6 is only a recommended setting and to work with my board I may have to adjust it down. Which leaves me asking myself why I bought so called “High Performance Memory” if to make it work I have to set it at a lower setting. I spoke to a Kingston Tech before I bought these sticks and he assured me they work fine and now I have problems. This is just the BS I didn’t want to go through. Can someone give me a better understanding of the differences between CH5 and BH5. I bounce around the net and found several articles saying BH5 is better but no real details. When I told the guy that the chips where CH5 and not reliable with D875 boards he was all over me. Asking me how did I know they were CH5 chips, did I take the heat sinks off, who said they don’t work with D875 boards. When I asked him if they were CH5 chips he wouldn’t answer me. He said he didn’t know. My problem is I’m talking out of my *** since I don’t know the difference.

Kingston suggest increasing the vdimm to +2.65 then to +2.70. How do I increase the vdimm in the BIOS on a D875PBZ board?
Then they suggest if problem still prosist to change the settings from 2-3-2-6 to 2-3-3-6 or even 2-3-3-7.

Also why does Intel desktop control center not pick a problem? Is there more powerful test freeware out there that I should us to test my system?

Last I guess give me some memory choices. I am looking for extra performance but not at the cost of stability. Like I said to Kingston, I want a rock solid stabile system with extra performance.

Thanks

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by Steve3128
Can someone give me a better understanding of the differences between CH5 and BH5. I bounce around the net and found several articles saying BH5 is better but no real details.

Use the search here and at OCforums to get the details. Basically the CH-5 is Winbond's newest RAM made on a different process and it just doesn't work as well on the 875/865 boards as their older, discontinued BH-5 chips do.

Originally posted by Steve3128
Kingston suggest increasing the vdimm to +2.65 then to +2.70. How do I increase the vdimm in the BIOS on a D875PBZ board?
Then they suggest if problem still prosist to change the settings from 2-3-2-6 to 2-3-3-6 or even 2-3-3-7.

You can't increase the Vdimm on the 875PBZ, it's fixed as is the Vcore. Yes, running slower timings would probably help, but you seem concerned with running at the tightest timings possible so that's probably not an option for you.

Originally posted by Steve3128
Also why does Intel desktop control center not pick a problem? Is there more powerful test freeware out there that I should us to test my system?

Because the Intel DCC isn't really designed to do what an app like Prime95 or Memtest86 can do. Those are the best utilities out there for stress-testing your system and they're both free.

Originally posted by Steve3128
Last I guess give me some memory choices. I am looking for extra performance but not at the cost of stability. Like I said to Kingston, I want a rock solid stabile system with extra performance.

Thanks

I'd choose some high quality BH-5 based RAM like Mushkin Level II or the new OCZ PC3500 Platinum Limited Edition (or whatever they call it). This is your best chance for running 2-2-2 timings at default Vdimm.

[Steve3128]

I don’t have my heart fixed on setting it at 2-3-2-6. It is just when I called Kingston about buying these memory sticks for my Intel D875PBZ they left me with the impression it was a sure thing. I asked the guy, “Has it been thoroughly tested” and ask if is has, where are the test results. He was supposed to e-mail them to me but never did. They are not on their wed site but there are ads saying buy the D875PBZ and Kingston KHX3200AK2 memory. Also Intel has a link to Kingston on their Desktop Control Center page. To me that is deception. I had called before buying the memory to confirm compatibility with my board. If they have D875PBZ boards with Kingston KHX3200AK2 memory running all over the place like they claimed they should send me a few. I’m $1600 into this system and I want a Rock Solid Stabile System and those are the words I used when talking to the guy. Enough bitching. All water under the bridge. I need to fine a setting that works or get a refund and buy new sticks from someone else (that is if they will refund it). Does Kingston have any BH5 memory that you know of or do they have any other sticks that are reliable with my motherboard?

Ran test using Prime95:
2-3-2-6 setting. It ran overnight and it did a lot of tests. There must have been 50 plus but in the morning it gave me an error. It had an address but I didn’t write it down (stupid). So I change the settings to 2-3-3-6 and ran it again. This time it ran for 8 hours and gave me a Windows error report message saying “PRIME 95 application has encountered a problem and needs to close” Then the usual send report to Microsoft stuff below. Not sure if this a memory problem or something else.

Some other observation I made when testing. My memory is running between 1018 and 1020. The CPU gauge has both an inner and outer gauge. the inner when running the 1024K test which seems to tax the system the most would run at max 50%. The outer was at 98%. In fact the inner always runs 10% to 50% less then the outer. Not sure what this means just stating it as an observation. Processor temp during the 1024K test hit 52 deg. and systems 35 deg. Other tests the processor 35-39 deg and systems 30-33 deg. I’m gonna set it to 2-3-3-7 tonight and let run over night again.


Audio Clock inaccuracy (+-) 0.2%
I also found out something else odd. I said before I was getting a “Audio Clock inaccuracy (+-) 0.2%” When I first start my system (anytime first time or a reboot) and run the ATI PC Check I get the error message. I even had one time when it said “Capture Drivers not installed” If I run the TV program and then check the PC Check everything is fine and all the test pass. What could this be?

NUMLOCK
What’s up with this? It would be on after startup after I turned it on and off a couple of times but ever since I loaded this wireless keyboard I can’t get it to be on at startup anymore at all. There is no option in the keyboard controls anywhere. The only place I found to set this is in the BIOS. Is this a keyboard issue or board issue.

[slicknick1986]

I just have a simple question.

If there are newer BIOS and drivers for my motherboard than the ones that came with the mobo, should I download the newer ones and use them, or first set up the mobo with the BIOS versions and drivers it came with, then - when the PC is set up update to the latest BIOS?


by the way i'm getting an Abit IC7

thanks in advance

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by Steve3128
I don’t have my heart fixed on setting it at 2-3-2-6. It is just when I called Kingston about buying these memory sticks for my Intel D875PBZ they left me with the impression it was a sure thing.

Then they're lying to you. About the only thing even close to a sure thing with regards to 875/865 boards and memory compatability is something like Crucial running at it's default SPD of 3-3-3. Once you start going for fast timings you open up a Pandoras box with these chipsets. As I stated in this thread, I had trouble getting this same Kingston memory to work on my first 875PBZ too, so I got rid of it.

Originally posted by Steve3128
Does Kingston have any BH5 memory that you know of or do they have any other sticks that are reliable with my motherboard?

They used to. It's the HyperX PC3200 "non-A" version. See how your model number is "KHX3200AK2"? You need to look for some "KHX3200K2". This stuff used the BH-5s.

Originally posted by Steve3128
Ran test using Prime95:
2-3-2-6 setting. It ran overnight and it did a lot of tests. There must have been 50 plus but in the morning it gave me an error. It had an address but I didn’t write it down (stupid). So I change the settings to 2-3-3-6 and ran it again. This time it ran for 8 hours and gave me a Windows error report message saying “PRIME 95 application has encountered a problem and needs to close” Then the usual send report to Microsoft stuff below. Not sure if this a memory problem or something else.

Could be something else, or it could be the memory. You need to test your memory with Memtest86 to narrow it down.

Originally posted by Steve3128
NUMLOCK
What’s up with this? It would be on after startup after I turned it on and off a couple of times but ever since I loaded this wireless keyboard I can’t get it to be on at startup anymore at all. There is no option in the keyboard controls anywhere. The only place I found to set this is in the BIOS. Is this a keyboard issue or board issue.

If it's set to "ON" in the BIOS and it doesn't come on when you boot into Windows then it's either a problem with your keyboard, or more likely a registry problem. I know there's a registry setting related to this setting because there's a hack that let's you fix a certain WinXP Numlock+multiple user accounts bug.

[AHLnut]

I just have a simple question.

If there are newer BIOS and drivers for my motherboard than the ones that came with the mobo, should I download the newer ones and use them, or first set up the mobo with the BIOS versions and drivers it came with, then - when the PC is set up update to the latest BIOS?

On this motherboard, I would update to the latest bios. I have this board and it is ROCK SOLID with the newest bios(18 I think?).

I have heard that earlier bios' for this board have a few issues.

[Steve3128]

OK gonna run MemTest86

My brother has Kingston SPD 3-3-3-8 memory and never has any problems. That along with the ads made me buy these Kingston sticks.

I can’t find any KHX3200K2/1G. They do have KHX3500K2/1G and KHX4000K2/1G (see link). Will this work or will it only worsen the problem because of Intel’s LOCKS on adjustments.

http://www.shop.kingston.com/12khx/d...e=shop_hx_spot

Also, I’m gonna start posting these in the “Intel 875PBZLK” string? There seems to be people there with the same system (board, graphics, sound, drives, etc) as I have, in there. I appreciate your help Ralf but maybe other people will chime in with some info instead of me bothering you all the time.
Thanks again

Monday Dec. 1 2003 02:15 PM
Ran MemTest86 for 8 hrs in Std mode then ran it for 11 hrs in the All mode. I got got no errors on either test. Ran at a setting of 2-3-3-7. Gonna try it tonight again at 2-3-3-6 or 2-3-2-6 and see how it fairs at those settings. What is the difference between MemTest86 and Prime95?

[Steve3128]

Ran Prime95 since midnight (12 hrs) at 2-3-3-7. It was still running and showed no errors. Also ran MemTest86 and passed (see last post).

[Mr Steveo]

Hi gang. LTNS

I should have some time for the forums in the week ahead. Ill try to get caught up on this thread in the next day or so.

[FB]

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Hi gang. LTNS

I should have some time for the forums in the week ahead. Ill try to get caught up on this thread in the next day or so.

nice to see you back

[byGeorge]

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Hi gang. LTNS

I should have some time for the forums in the week ahead. Ill try to get caught up on this thread in the next day or so.

Welcome back, you 'da man!

George

[Mr Steveo]

THanks for the welcome.

A question for those of you out there who installed either

Q820128
Q812415

Can some of the few of you who got these updates offer some feedback? So far for me they have been golden, but Im wondering what other peoples expereices have been?

Thanks

[JoeBar]

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Hi gang. LTNS

I should have some time for the forums in the week ahead. Ill try to get caught up on this thread in the next day or so.

A warm welcome to our installation guru!

[JoeBar]

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
THanks for the welcome.

A question for those of you out there who installed either

Q820128
Q812415

Can some of the few of you who got these updates offer some feedback? So far for me they have been golden, but Im wondering what other peoples expereices have been?

Thanks

I've been using Q820128 without any probs m8!
What is Q812115 though?