Operating System / Software Installation Guide

[redmist]

Originally posted by wayne
Sorry man, you got me beat

[EDITED]
How long have you waited during the install? up to five mikes?

-wayne

i waited at least 15 minutes just to be sure. i hate to RMA, but it looks like i have no other choice

thanks anyway- we tried

[BKA]

Originally posted by redmist
well- i did all i could. i thought i could fix it somehow- but it looks like the same thing is happening. i get a hanging install of the drivers themselves.

RMA time.

thanks very much for your help. i'll probably be back in a week with more problems when i get the new board.

I know that this probably won't help the situation but if the only thing wrong with the MB is the onboard NIC, try using a PCI ethernet card, they seem to fair better than onboard LAN so I hear.

I know when I pay for something, I want exactly what I paid for. But maybe the trouble of doing a RMA when you can use a $10 NIC might not be worth it.

My current MB has screwed up onboard audio but I just threw in a SB live value and I kinda pushed it to the back of my mind. :sad:

[redmist]

yes, i thought of calling it a day and buying a pci LAN card- but that's not the point. like you stated, when i buy something, i want what i paid for! it's the principle.

if for some strange reason, the second one i get does the same thing- perhaps i will but a pci LAN card, but more than likely, i will put up with the aggro, and send it back for a refund and but a different board, not made by asus. i am not pleased at all with he customer department. i hope other companies making motherboards have better customer service departments there.

[Spec]

Hi,

It's my first post so I'm not quite used to this...

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this, but i just built my first computer with a p4p800 deluxe, a p4 2.6 800fsb HT, sapphire atlantis 9600 pro, corsair 1Gb TwinX pc3200, western digital 80gb caviar hd, an antec 400w psu, and an audigy 2. Everthing works well except it hangs when i play 3d games. I've tried a bunch of things including reinstalling the catalyst 3.10 drivers, lowering to 4x and turning fastwrites off, following other ppls suggestions, making sure i uninstalled the video drivers properly, but it still hangs. im wondering if i need to update my bios. the board came with an ami bios, version 2.51 it says. on the asus site it says u need bios version 1009 to run a 2.6 p4 on a p4p800d. of course this is an asus bios, not an ami bios so i cant tell if i need to update it. im a real noob at this and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[caesar_abx]

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
[B]Step-By-Step Procedure


8. For Windows NT/2000/XP be sure “Plug and Play OS” is set to “disabled/No” in BIOS

Why is this? I set mine to yes in BIOS (P4P800 Deluxe) -- since I thought XP is a plug and play OS. Is that bad? Should I change it now?

[wayne_abx]

Originally posted by caesar
Why is this? I set mine to yes in BIOS (P4P800 Deluxe) -- since I thought XP is a plug and play OS. Is that bad? Should I change it now?

Plug N Play was designed for win95/98, it gave the OS more room to adjust hardware configurations.

The BIOS plug n play option is irrelevant since XP uses Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)

Setting the PNP to NO helps reduce hardware conflict during installation and reduces issues with-in power management instsructions.

-wayne

[caesar_abx]

Originally posted by wayne
Plug N Play was designed for win95/98, it gave the OS more room to adjust hardware configurations.

The BIOS plug n play option is irrelevant since XP uses Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)

Setting the PNP to NO helps reduce hardware conflict during installation and reduces issues with-in power management instsructions.

-wayne

Would it matter now if I changed it to "No" in the bios? Or should I leave it alone?

Everything seems to be working fine at the moment. I disabled all power management in the bios. The only power management I use (via Windows XP), is to have my monitor turn off after 20 minutes of inactivity. I do not have any other power settings.

[wayne_abx]

its safe, turn it off

-wayne

[wayne_abx]

Originally posted by Spec
Hi,

It's my first post so I'm not quite used to this...

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this, but i just built my first computer with a p4p800 deluxe, a p4 2.6 800fsb HT, sapphire atlantis 9600 pro, corsair 1Gb TwinX pc3200, western digital 80gb caviar hd, an antec 400w psu, and an audigy 2. Everthing works well except it hangs when i play 3d games. I've tried a bunch of things including reinstalling the catalyst 3.10 drivers, lowering to 4x and turning fastwrites off, following other ppls suggestions, making sure i uninstalled the video drivers properly, but it still hangs. im wondering if i need to update my bios. the board came with an ami bios, version 2.51 it says. on the asus site it says u need bios version 1009 to run a 2.6 p4 on a p4p800d. of course this is an asus bios, not an ami bios so i cant tell if i need to update it. im a real noob at this and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

what cards (if any) do you have installed and in to what PCI slot?

Welcome to the [AB] Spec

-wayne

[Mr Steveo]

To add to what Wayne has indicated:

PnP OS IMHO is a setting that should be re-named as it does tend to be confusing. It is not really asking per se, "Do you have a plug and play OS?" What its actually asking is, "Do you want the mobo/BIOS or the operating system to initialize non boot hardware?"

Additionally, this setting has nothing to do with installing new devices. Leaving the setting at disabled will not affect your computers general plug and play ability to detect newly installed hardware or USB devices.

With modern Windows OS's and modern hardware this setting can be disabled to allow initialization to take place at the harware level. Theres only rare occasions over the last few years where I have seen people need to enable this setting. Some include: with a mobo that is poorly designed, with PCI hardware or drivers that are poorly designed, or with certain models of analog PCI dial up modems. In nearly every other case, PnP OS can be left at disabled with Windows 2000 and XP.

Ive written a few extensive things on this setting around the forum but for the life of me I cant find them right now LOL If interested, you might have luck pulling up those posts with the forum search button

HTH

[Spec]

Originally posted by wayne
what cards (if any) do you have installed and in to what PCI slot?

Welcome to the [AB] Spec

-wayne

thanks for the response wayne. the only card i installed in a pci slot was the audigy 2, which i put in the 4th slot. i thought i should put it as far away from the video card for heat issues, but could this be causing the problem?

thanks again

-tom

[Cole_abx]

No I dont think it should cause you any issues but you can check and see how your system has allocated IRQ #'s by running MSInfo from your start menu/run box

[wayne_abx]

Originally posted by Spec
thanks for the response wayne. the only card i installed in a pci slot was the audigy 2, which i put in the 4th slot. i thought i should put it as far away from the video card for heat issues, but could this be causing the problem?

thanks again

-tom

3rd and 4th PCI slots look like good slots to use, have you gone into the DirectX diag to see if it reports any problems?

-wayne

[Spec]

yeah i just went through dxdiag and it reported no problems. i looked though my bios and should i have "assign irq for pci vga" enabled or disabled? the default is enabled, but my video card is in the agp slot. so does this mean it's trying to assign an irq value to a pci video graphics accelerator? plus i can run 3dmark 2001se and 2003, the free ones, without any problems. the problems arise in games like medal of honor allied assault (have the latest patch), quake 3 and the call of duty demo. i dont really have any other games to test with.

-tom

[auldar]

@ Mr. Steveo

Firstly, thanks for your excelent guide (I've had it bookmarked for months, but finally used it last month). I've pointed a few other people here who have also appreciated it


I just wanted to share my experience with you - after reading it, you might want to update one of your steps in your guide.

I was installing a new system:

2.8C P4
P4C800-E Deluxe
2 X 512 DDR400
160GB Seagate SATA
HIS Excalibur 9800 Pro
Antec Sonata (love this case)
etc

So, in your guide, it suggests formatting the remaining unpartitioned space on your HDD prior to installing XP SP1. In my case, until I installed XP SP1, XP did not properly recognise the size of my disk.

I had created a 20GB system partition, and left the remaining space unpartitioned. At that stage of the install process, XP was telling me I only had 106GB in that unpartitioned space, when I really had 129GB. After I installed XP SP1, the remaining space was properly recognised as 129GB.


My suggestion would be to move the step for formatting the remaining disk space to be after installing SP1, so that people using larger SATA drives don't format their partitions prior to XP recognising the entire disk.

Thanks again..

-Auldar