Operating System / Software Installation Guide - Page 8

Mr Steveo · 02-06-2003, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Gorganzola
HTML disabled? That must make it hard to follow a link. Just click on the username on the left to see a users profile BTW.

Doh! I learn something new everyday Thanks

And youre right, Im thinking of IMG disabling not HTML. Disabling HTML would make for a cumbersome mess

Wow, am I dazed and confused tonight or what?

**Gorganzola** · 02-06-2003, 02:40 AM

hehe, We all have good days and bad. I hope this is a bad day.

This thread will keep you busy for sure. Thanks for putting in the effort.

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Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Doh! I learn something new everyday Thanks

And youre right, Im thinking of IMG disabling not HTML. Disabling HTML would make for a cumbersome mess Wow, am I dazed and confused tonight or what?

Mr Steveo · 02-06-2003, 02:53 AM

No problem glad to help.

Bad day? Nah, not at all. As I was just joking with JP over at AMDMB/MSI, Im posting right now in six threads across three forums. Then MS releases what appears at first to be a new Service Pack, so I got an MS window open on docs.

And now Im just plain getting lost

Time for a soda break

**Gorganzola** · 02-06-2003, 02:59 AM

hehe, been down that road a few times too.

Bubbly all around.

Mr Steveo · 02-06-2003, 03:45 AM

Break time over here

Gorgo, I just learned of some significant issues worth discussiong on this Service Pack 1a deal.

Did you read the related Docs on this SP1a mess and Sun Java and th courts? Oh boy

**Gorganzola** · 02-06-2003, 03:54 AM

Sorry, no I haven't had a chance to read them. I have been studying for midterms, quizzes and assignments. If I have some time I will read it later.

I think I remember reading that MS will have to include Sun Java. One thing I don't like about the Sun Java is that little icon that sits in the taskbar. I really don't need another icon, especially a useless one. I hope they get rid of it.

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Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Break time over here

Gorgo, I just learned of some significant issues worth discussiong on this Service Pack 1a deal.

Did you read the related Docs on this SP1a mess and Sun Java and th courts? Oh boy

Mr Steveo · 02-06-2003, 04:00 AM

Well heres what ive gotten updated on: Its ugly LOL

As everyone knows by now SP1a is based on the Fed Court Decision with Sun Java. So MS gets rid of MS VM. But then MS goes on to say it is going to be required to include Sun Java in all versions of Windows .

Additionally MS, rather than waiting to finish the Sun Java client, they just dropped MS VM. But they say that Sun JVM will be added within 30 days as required by law. At which point they will then roll out Windows XP SP1b !! (Sun Java included)

Of course this means anyone installing a new system today wont have any Java from Microsoft. And surely there will be bugs and bumps when SP1b comes out.

But if that were not bad enough......

Think about the people that have Windows XP SP1 (original). Everyone knows MS VM is not uninstallable. And MS is being very vague on whether or for how long they will support and offer future security patches for MS VM. And as we all know, hackers crack MS VM about three times a year.

So Im curious to know how MS plans to address all those SP1 computers in circulation as time passes. Surely they will have some MS VM uninstaller at some point, no? Otherwise MS VM is going to be a crackers dream as the months pass.

Any thoughts on this mess?

*zapionics<alt>* · 02-06-2003, 04:07 AM

omg, typical! I just picked up a copy of XP pro with SP1 a few days ago! lol

fvlmasl2 · 02-06-2003, 09:20 AM

Very helpful...but for this step here----Installation Order for Software on an Asus Motherboard with Intel Chipset---- what steps would be different if any for VIA?

Thanks
-fvlmasl2

YoBoGo · 02-06-2003, 11:32 AM

So what is the recommendation? If doing a new install should we go with SP1 (assuming it was saved to disk) or with the new SP1a?

Manfredo52 · 02-06-2003, 01:51 PM

Also have a little question here.

After I have installed everytjing, incl the Intel Inf drivers, I just found that there is a new version of the Inf drivers. How can I now update the drivers ? When I run the setup.exe, it does install something, but when I check back the device manager I see that still the old drivers seem to be installed.

What to do ?

regards
Manfredo

Mr Steveo · 02-06-2003, 02:15 PM

Ive got a rather busy day going here folks. If you can wait until this evening I will have the time to

1. List for you the method to reinstall INF drivers where overlying device drivers are mandated a reinstall.

2. My thoughts on whether to install SP1 or SP1a

See you this eve.

FB · 02-06-2003, 02:32 PM

sounds good Mr. Steveo, thanks

YoBoGo · 02-06-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Steveo
Ive got a rather busy day going here folks. If you can wait until this evening I will have the time to

1. List for you the method to reinstall INF drivers where overlying device drivers are mandated a reinstall.

2. My thoughts on whether to install SP1 or SP1a

See you this eve.

Of course, thanks for all the help!

Manfredo52 · 02-06-2003, 11:30 PM

Thanks a lot.

Regards
Manfredo

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02-06-2003, 02:59 AM	#109
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02-06-2003, 03:45 AM	#110
Mr Steveo Stayed @HolidayInn Xpress Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,326	Break time over here Gorgo, I just learned of some significant issues worth discussiong on this Service Pack 1a deal. Did you read the related Docs on this SP1a mess and Sun Java and th courts? Oh boy __________________ Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 * Intel DX38BT "Bone Trail" mobo * 2 x 2 Gig Patriot PC3 10666 1333MHz 7-7-7-20 * eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX * WD 150G Raptor * Seagate 500G SATA HDD * Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality * 2 x Plextor PX-810SA DVD burners * CoolerMaster 850W PSU * Silverstone TJ10-SW case * Silverstone FP34 card reader * Logitech G7 mouse * Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard * Sony 19" LCD * Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64 * Larry The Squirrel* Last edited by Mr Steveo; 02-06-2003 at 04:00 AM..
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02-06-2003, 04:00 AM	#112
Mr Steveo Stayed @HolidayInn Xpress Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,326	Well heres what ive gotten updated on: Its ugly LOL As everyone knows by now SP1a is based on the Fed Court Decision with Sun Java. So MS gets rid of MS VM. But then MS goes on to say it is going to be required to include Sun Java in all versions of Windows . Additionally MS, rather than waiting to finish the Sun Java client, they just dropped MS VM. But they say that Sun JVM will be added within 30 days as required by law. At which point they will then roll out Windows XP SP1b !! (Sun Java included) Of course this means anyone installing a new system today wont have any Java from Microsoft. And surely there will be bugs and bumps when SP1b comes out. But if that were not bad enough...... Think about the people that have Windows XP SP1 (original). Everyone knows MS VM is not uninstallable. And MS is being very vague on whether or for how long they will support and offer future security patches for MS VM. And as we all know, hackers crack MS VM about three times a year. So Im curious to know how MS plans to address all those SP1 computers in circulation as time passes. Surely they will have some MS VM uninstaller at some point, no? Otherwise MS VM is going to be a crackers dream as the months pass. Any thoughts on this mess? __________________ Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 * Intel DX38BT "Bone Trail" mobo * 2 x 2 Gig Patriot PC3 10666 1333MHz 7-7-7-20 * eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX * WD 150G Raptor * Seagate 500G SATA HDD * Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality * 2 x Plextor PX-810SA DVD burners * CoolerMaster 850W PSU * Silverstone TJ10-SW case * Silverstone FP34 card reader * Logitech G7 mouse * Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard * Sony 19" LCD * Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64 * Larry The Squirrel*
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02-06-2003, 04:07 AM	#113
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02-06-2003, 09:20 AM	#114
fvlmasl2 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 625	Very helpful...but for this step here----Installation Order for Software on an Asus Motherboard with Intel Chipset---- what steps would be different if any for VIA? Thanks -fvlmasl2 __________________ ASUS P5K-E Intel Q6600 G.Skill 2X2 4GB Vista Ultimate 32 SP1 8600GT WD 74G SATA Raptor 10K RPM - Boot Seagate 250G SATA 7200.8 RPM - Data Toshiba 16X DVD-Rom Lite-On DVD Burner HP 832C Inkjet
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02-06-2003, 11:32 AM	#115
YoBoGo Watered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,030	So what is the recommendation? If doing a new install should we go with SP1 (assuming it was saved to disk) or with the new SP1a? __________________ ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe * AMD 64 FX62 * Water Cooled w/ DANGERDEN TDX BLOCK * 2GB Corsair DDR2 2 x XFX 7900GTX - SLI w/Water Cooled DANGERDEN Blocks* AUDIGY 2ZS * LOGITECH 580'S * LITE-ON CDRW * PLEXTOR COMBO CDRW/DVDRW 2 x 150GB WD Raptors SATA RAID0 * CM Stacker Case Silver * PC POWER & COOLING 510 SLI PSU * Custom Wiring, Switches WIN XP PRO SP2 * NFORCE 91.31 * DIRECTX 9.0C NEW 3DMARK2003: 37,618 NEW 3DMARK2005: 16,012 NEW 3DMARK2006: 10,203
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02-06-2003, 01:51 PM	#116
Manfredo52 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	Inf drivers, how to update old installation Also have a little question here. After I have installed everytjing, incl the Intel Inf drivers, I just found that there is a new version of the Inf drivers. How can I now update the drivers ? When I run the setup.exe, it does install something, but when I check back the device manager I see that still the old drivers seem to be installed. What to do ? regards Manfredo
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02-06-2003, 02:15 PM	#117
Mr Steveo Stayed @HolidayInn Xpress Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,326	Ive got a rather busy day going here folks. If you can wait until this evening I will have the time to 1. List for you the method to reinstall INF drivers where overlying device drivers are mandated a reinstall. 2. My thoughts on whether to install SP1 or SP1a See you this eve. __________________ Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 * Intel DX38BT "Bone Trail" mobo * 2 x 2 Gig Patriot PC3 10666 1333MHz 7-7-7-20 * eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX * WD 150G Raptor * Seagate 500G SATA HDD * Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality * 2 x Plextor PX-810SA DVD burners * CoolerMaster 850W PSU * Silverstone TJ10-SW case * Silverstone FP34 card reader * Logitech G7 mouse * Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard * Sony 19" LCD * Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64 * Larry The Squirrel*
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02-06-2003, 02:32 PM	#118
FB Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: in my mind and in your hearts Posts: 24,879	sounds good Mr. Steveo, thanks __________________
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02-06-2003, 11:30 PM	#120
Manfredo52 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	Thanks a lot. Regards Manfredo
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