P4T-E How t update to 1005e with a northwood - Page 2

**k0NG0** · 02-16-2002, 06:29 PM

I fixed the jumper settings for all current Northwoods on the P4T-E.

Northwood 1.6A

Northwood 1.8A

Northwood 2.0A

Northwood 2.2A

All are set for the 100MHz (QDR) FSB.

-kONGO

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Miles · 02-16-2002, 06:31 PM

Great Post KONGO:eek:

I think this thread deserves to be STICKY

Racer78 · 02-16-2002, 08:39 PM

Nice work Kongo

Builder_abx · 02-20-2002, 08:54 AM

I just finished install of P4T-E and all went smooth. But I was getting a CPU ID error at boot. So I figured i just needed to update the bios to reconize the 1.8A Norwood. I went to asus site and flashed the dam thing with the wrong bios. I used 1005e, but the one for the 423 socket. Well now I get nothing. You guys are talking about in this thread setting jumper manually to boot and have it reconize the new CPU. Will this help in my case or are we talking about two different problems. I am assuming the only chance I have is try the jumper shorting method. Can some please walk me through this. I think i need to remove the battery and short out Cmos solder points and with the points shorted I need to power board back up. will this clear the cmos and allow me to reboot and flash again? any help would greatly appreciated.

**k0NG0** · 02-20-2002, 10:42 AM

Builder, the problem that will be solved by using the jumper setting is to make the P4T-E boot enough to allow the BIOS to be flashed when the current revision is earlier than 1005e.

What you'll probably have to do is to send the motherboard to ASUS and have them flash the BIOS to a P4T-E one again (or if the BIOS chip is removable, and you know someone with a P4T-E also, you could do a hot swap).
Shorting the solder points or removing the battery will only clear the settings in the BIOS that are stored in SRAM. The BIOS itself is stored in Flash EEPROM and must be deleted using Aflash or special hardware tools.

The hot swap I mean is where you boot another P4T-E and then swap it's BIOS chip with yours, and then flash yours with the right BIOS, and then swap them back when the flash is done.

IOSS have a nice product called BIOS Savior that allows you to have two BIOS chips, using one as a backup. (Chek out their nice spelling of BIOS

).

This all depends on if you have a removable BIOS chip. If you don't, then you'll have to send it to Asus unfortunately

.

-kONGO

Solomon_abx · 02-20-2002, 10:45 AM

hey kONGO, how's it goin'?
I don't think any of the P4T-Es have removable BIOS chips...

Solomon_abx · 02-20-2002, 10:52 AM

Builder:
To use an IT technical term, you are "hosed". I think you will have to send the board to ASUS for a reflash.

Builder_abx · 02-20-2002, 10:53 AM

Ok thanks for the help...that's what i figured. i just bought the board from mwave so i'll just order another and RMA the one I messed up back to them. Won't send it back to asus, the last time i did that I didn't see the board for 8 weeks. But what was strange my norwood booted fine with 1004 bios but just got the CPU ID error. but what you are saying is when the new board comes in boot it in manual jumper mode if it dosen't boot in jumperless mode, is that correct? Once i flash with 1005e and assuming it works will the bios now correctly reconize the norwood? thanks for all your help.

builder

**k0NG0** · 02-20-2002, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaxMan
hey kONGO, how's it goin'?

Can't complain... You?

Quote:

Originally posted by Builder
Ok thanks for the help...that's what i figured. i just bought the board from mwave so i'll just order another and RMA the one I messed up back to them. Won't send it back to asus, the last time i did that I didn't see the board for 8 weeks. But what was strange my norwood booted fine with 1004 bios but just got the CPU ID error. but what you are saying is when the new board comes in boot it in manual jumper mode if it dosen't boot in jumperless mode, is that correct? Once i flash with 1005e and assuming it works will the bios now correctly reconize the norwood? thanks for all your help.

You're correct. If it doesn't boot in JumperFree mode, set the jumpers according to the 1.8A pic above, and then boot with the flash floppy. Aflash it to 1005e (for the P4T-E

), and then you'll be able to boot it with the JumperFree mode from that point.

-kONGO

Solomon_abx · 02-20-2002, 11:22 AM

kONGO, as usual, you give good advice.
builder, you may want to delete your other thread...

deadkenny · 03-09-2002, 12:49 PM

So kONGO, what you're saying with your dip switch settings picture is that I have to physically remove switch 5 in order for this to work?

**k0NG0** · 03-09-2002, 02:06 PM

Yes.

-kONGO

Slovak · 03-12-2002, 06:15 PM

Although I do not have a P4, but reading this thread how in the world do you just remove a dip switch? I mean it has either an on or an off setting, so if it were removed wouldn't it be either on or off still depending on the switch position when it was removed?
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but I was just wondering KONGO

VCTech · 03-12-2002, 06:27 PM

If your referring to jumper 5 ....it is reserved and he means just leave it in the default position.

**k0NG0** · 03-13-2002, 12:52 AM

JohnBoy, it was a joke back at that dead kenny-character

. As VCTech said, it's a reserved jumper, so you needn't remove it.

-kONGO

02-16-2002, 06:29 PM	#16
k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,749	I fixed the jumper settings for all current Northwoods on the P4T-E. Northwood 1.6A Northwood 1.8A Northwood 2.0A Northwood 2.2A All are set for the 100MHz (QDR) FSB. -kONGO Last edited by k0NG0; 04-27-2002 at 06:11 PM..
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02-16-2002, 06:31 PM	#17
Miles Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,560	Great Post KONGO:eek: I think this thread deserves to be STICKY __________________ Regards, Miles ________________________________ Intel I7 965 \| ASUS P6T \| 3 x 2Gb Corsair DDR-3 \| XFX GTX 260\| 2 - Seagate 750GB Barracuda ES \| Thermalright 1200 watt \| Lian Li G70 \| Windows 7 64-bit Professional \| Dell 2407 FPW Monitor
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02-16-2002, 08:39 PM	#18
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02-20-2002, 08:54 AM	#19
Builder_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: NC Posts: 23	Ok guys help me out here please!! I just finished install of P4T-E and all went smooth. But I was getting a CPU ID error at boot. So I figured i just needed to update the bios to reconize the 1.8A Norwood. I went to asus site and flashed the dam thing with the wrong bios. I used 1005e, but the one for the 423 socket. Well now I get nothing. You guys are talking about in this thread setting jumper manually to boot and have it reconize the new CPU. Will this help in my case or are we talking about two different problems. I am assuming the only chance I have is try the jumper shorting method. Can some please walk me through this. I think i need to remove the battery and short out Cmos solder points and with the points shorted I need to power board back up. will this clear the cmos and allow me to reboot and flash again? any help would greatly appreciated. __________________ Case: Enermax CS5190AL Black, PSupply Enermax 430 W/ Manual Fan Control CPU: 1.8A Norwood @ 2.160 Gig Heatsink Swift Tech MCX 478 MB Asus P4T-E Bios 1005 W/ DRCG Clock Gens Memory Mushkin RAMBUS SAMSUNG 256 X 2 Non ECC 800 MHZ Video Card GForce3 250/500 Sound Card Sound Blaster Live
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02-20-2002, 10:42 AM	#20
k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,749	Builder, the problem that will be solved by using the jumper setting is to make the P4T-E boot enough to allow the BIOS to be flashed when the current revision is earlier than 1005e. What you'll probably have to do is to send the motherboard to ASUS and have them flash the BIOS to a P4T-E one again (or if the BIOS chip is removable, and you know someone with a P4T-E also, you could do a hot swap). Shorting the solder points or removing the battery will only clear the settings in the BIOS that are stored in SRAM. The BIOS itself is stored in Flash EEPROM and must be deleted using Aflash or special hardware tools. The hot swap I mean is where you boot another P4T-E and then swap it's BIOS chip with yours, and then flash yours with the right BIOS, and then swap them back when the flash is done. IOSS have a nice product called BIOS Savior that allows you to have two BIOS chips, using one as a backup. (Chek out their nice spelling of BIOS ). This all depends on if you have a removable BIOS chip. If you don't, then you'll have to send it to Asus unfortunately . -kONGO
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02-20-2002, 10:45 AM	#21
Solomon_abx Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,634	hey kONGO, how's it goin'? I don't think any of the P4T-Es have removable BIOS chips...
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02-20-2002, 10:52 AM	#22
Solomon_abx Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,634	Re: Ok guys help me out here please!! Builder: To use an IT technical term, you are "hosed". I think you will have to send the board to ASUS for a reflash.
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02-20-2002, 10:53 AM	#23
Builder_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: NC Posts: 23	Thanks Kango, one more thing Ok thanks for the help...that's what i figured. i just bought the board from mwave so i'll just order another and RMA the one I messed up back to them. Won't send it back to asus, the last time i did that I didn't see the board for 8 weeks. But what was strange my norwood booted fine with 1004 bios but just got the CPU ID error. but what you are saying is when the new board comes in boot it in manual jumper mode if it dosen't boot in jumperless mode, is that correct? Once i flash with 1005e and assuming it works will the bios now correctly reconize the norwood? thanks for all your help. builder __________________ Case: Enermax CS5190AL Black, PSupply Enermax 430 W/ Manual Fan Control CPU: 1.8A Norwood @ 2.160 Gig Heatsink Swift Tech MCX 478 MB Asus P4T-E Bios 1005 W/ DRCG Clock Gens Memory Mushkin RAMBUS SAMSUNG 256 X 2 Non ECC 800 MHZ Video Card GForce3 250/500 Sound Card Sound Blaster Live
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02-20-2002, 11:22 AM	#25
Solomon_abx Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,634	kONGO, as usual, you give good advice. builder, you may want to delete your other thread...
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03-09-2002, 12:49 PM	#26
deadkenny Dead Technophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 918	So kONGO, what you're saying with your dip switch settings picture is that I have to physically remove switch 5 in order for this to work? __________________
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03-09-2002, 02:06 PM	#27
k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,749	Yes. -kONGO
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03-12-2002, 06:15 PM	#28
Slovak Expert at nothing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Olmsted, Ohio Posts: 1,169	Although I do not have a P4, but reading this thread how in the world do you just remove a dip switch? I mean it has either an on or an off setting, so if it were removed wouldn't it be either on or off still depending on the switch position when it was removed? I know this sounds like a stupid question, but I was just wondering KONGO __________________ Mobo: Abit AB9 QuadGT CPU: C2D E6400 HSF: Big Typhoon w/Silverstone FM121 HDD: 2x WD 1600YS SATA w/16mb cache Optical: LG DVD-RAM, Liteon CDRW, Toshiba DVD-ROM Memory: 2Gb Buffalo Firestix D9's Video: X1950XT Audio: Audigy 2 ZS PSU: OCZ GameXtream 600W Mouse: Razer Copperhead Keyboard: Logitech G15 Case: Lian-Li OS: XP Pro SP2
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03-12-2002, 06:27 PM	#29
VCTech Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: WA state Posts: 224	If your referring to jumper 5 ....it is reserved and he means just leave it in the default position. __________________ Intel 945P Antec True550 Pentium4 3.2w/HT 2Gig Corsair DDR2 eVGA 7800GT WD 250Gig 3.0Gb/s Sound Blaster Audigy 2 LS LiteOn 16X DVD NEC DVDR WinXP Pro SP2 Antec Sonata II Samsung 20.1 widescreen
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03-13-2002, 12:52 AM	#30
k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,749	JohnBoy, it was a joke back at that dead kenny-character . As VCTech said, it's a reserved jumper, so you needn't remove it. -kONGO
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