ATI RADEON 9600 PRO or FX5600?

Braveheart_abx · 12-07-2003, 04:50 AM

Which is a better card?Tell me your opinions. I am interested in divx , games and dvd's.

bajo · 12-07-2003, 05:28 AM

go ATI ! it's the best card for the money ever !

jcarno · 12-07-2003, 07:06 AM

I've had the fx 5600. It was garbage for playing games. I don't know about the 9600 though. GL.

bajo · 12-07-2003, 07:13 AM

I got the 9600 PRO & it's a winner !!

Braveheart_abx · 12-07-2003, 08:30 AM

Thanks guys!U sure do help me! I've heard that some ati cards have problems with my mobo (p4g8x).I 've opened a thread about that.Feel free to check it out also :

P4G8X and ATI RADEON 9600 PRO

Besides that i would like some more opinions on the big question:

"ATI RADEON 9600 PRO or FX 5600"?

cgarner · 12-07-2003, 12:18 PM

look at the xfx geforce 5900. it is $196 at newegg.com and has better stock speeds than the ATI 9600. ATI has problems with drivers. If I want to play this game I need this driver...but wait, my temp on the GPU is too hot so I need this driver. Your decision....if you want to full around with drivers so you can get the best graphics...go ATI. IF you want nothing to do with it and sacrice FPS and some quality...go geforce.

gaddster · 12-07-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cgarner
look at the xfx geforce 5900. it is $196 at newegg.com and has better stock speeds than the ATI 9600. ATI has problems with drivers. If I want to play this game I need this driver...but wait, my temp on the GPU is too hot so I need this driver. Your decision....if you want to full around with drivers so you can get the best graphics...go ATI. IF you want nothing to do with it and sacrice FPS and some quality...go geforce.

sorry but that is not quite right

ATI drivers have come along way since the old days. I have recently upgraded to a 9800 pro from a GF4 TI4400 and have had zero problems with ati drivers/software. I merely uninstalled my NV drivers, ran drivercleaner, removed GF4, installed ATI card, rebooted and installed omega 3.9 drivers and that is it! never touched them again and i get good scores in benches so i know it's running as it should and I've had zero probs with any games either.... This is my first ever ATI card and I am well chuffed with it

bajo · 12-07-2003, 10:18 PM

Catalysts get better every time

Braveheart_abx · 12-08-2003, 02:28 AM

Thank you very much bajo! I am almost convinced in bying a ati radeon 9600 pro card!Think i'll wait a couple of days 2 c what u guys tell me here and then i'll decide 100%. Thanks again!

phongshader · 12-08-2003, 03:36 AM

if you really want cheap, go with a Radeon 9500 64mb non-pro. You can find one at under 100 bucks, and you can softmod it to a 9500 Pro, which is as fast as a 9600XT.

bajo · 12-08-2003, 04:02 AM

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Originally posted by Braveheart
Thank you very much bajo! I am almost convinced in bying a ati radeon 9600 pro card!Think i'll wait a couple of days 2 c what u guys tell me here and then i'll decide 100%. Thanks again!

you're welcome

Mach_abx · 12-08-2003, 11:30 AM

Get a 9500 pro or 9700 pro. Check Ebay. They will outperform the 9600 and are great cards IMO.

Ice_abx · 12-08-2003, 11:39 AM

I'd go with an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. You can pick one up for about $150 online and it performs well on recent games. This is the card I went with when I helped my friend build his new computer and he's loving it. Keep in mind that there are EZ and Lite versions of the 9600 Pro so make sure you get the regular version, which is about the price I mentioned before.

Braveheart_abx · 12-09-2003, 12:25 PM

I have just bought my ati radeon 9600 pro crad everything looks fine!

My 3dmark2003 score is 3320 and my 3dmark2001 score is 11004. Is this normal?

How big should i set the graphics aperture size through bios?What aboust USWC ir UC?

Razorback · 12-09-2003, 03:07 PM

I think you will like the 9600 Pro. Just put one in a pc I built and it works really well all around. 3dMark03 was around 3300-3500 depending on the settings. 3dMark2001 gave about 12,700. Your scores look right with normal settings (default). If you look in your setup, you probably have let the application decide selected. Set all your sliders to the left for performance. You will see a definite improvement in your scores. I haven't tried ocing but I have heard the card does this pretty well. HTH

Aperature size:
http://www.lostcircuits.com/advice/bios2/12.shtml

I think you want USWC enabled if possible. Here is a post from this site.
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...=2508#post2508

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ATI RADEON 9600 PRO rocks!	16	84.21%
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12-07-2003, 04:50 AM	#1
Braveheart_abx Bill Gates is an alien Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 172	ATI RADEON 9600 PRO or FX5600? Which is a better card?Tell me your opinions. I am interested in divx , games and dvd's. __________________ (1st PC) AMD 3500+(S939),Thermalright XP 90 CPU Cooler with 90 mm Enermax Fan (64cfm) ,MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM , 2X512 MB RAM OCZ REV.2 PLATINUM , MSI 6800 GT PCI-XPRESS , 2X74 GB WD RAPTOR (RAID0),1x200 GB SEAGATE , SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY,LIAN LI Case,FORTRON 550 WATT PSU (2nd PC)P4 2,4GHZ , ASUS P4G8X,GEFORCE 5200,2x256 MB RAM DDR 400 ,1x80 GB HDD SEAGATE,Plaisio Case,ZALMAN 7000ALCU CPU FAN , HAUPPAUGE TV CARD , 1xPLEXTOR PLEXWRITER 16/10/40A,1XDVDROM BTC,HEC 425 WATT PSU.
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12-07-2003, 05:28 AM	#2
bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,254	go ATI ! it's the best card for the money ever ! __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x500GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6002_SP2
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12-07-2003, 07:06 AM	#3
jcarno Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: upstate N.Y. Posts: 751	I've had the fx 5600. It was garbage for playing games. I don't know about the 9600 though. GL. __________________ DFI NF4 SLI-D/X2 4400/2x1024 G-Skill PC4000 /2xBFG 7800GT/1 Maxtor 200g Sata150/1 Maxtor 160g Sata/
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12-07-2003, 07:13 AM	#4
bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,254	I got the 9600 PRO & it's a winner !! __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x500GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6002_SP2
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12-07-2003, 08:30 AM	#5
Braveheart_abx Bill Gates is an alien Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 172	Thanks guys!U sure do help me! I've heard that some ati cards have problems with my mobo (p4g8x).I 've opened a thread about that.Feel free to check it out also : P4G8X and ATI RADEON 9600 PRO Besides that i would like some more opinions on the big question: "ATI RADEON 9600 PRO or FX 5600"? __________________ (1st PC) AMD 3500+(S939),Thermalright XP 90 CPU Cooler with 90 mm Enermax Fan (64cfm) ,MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM , 2X512 MB RAM OCZ REV.2 PLATINUM , MSI 6800 GT PCI-XPRESS , 2X74 GB WD RAPTOR (RAID0),1x200 GB SEAGATE , SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY,LIAN LI Case,FORTRON 550 WATT PSU (2nd PC)P4 2,4GHZ , ASUS P4G8X,GEFORCE 5200,2x256 MB RAM DDR 400 ,1x80 GB HDD SEAGATE,Plaisio Case,ZALMAN 7000ALCU CPU FAN , HAUPPAUGE TV CARD , 1xPLEXTOR PLEXWRITER 16/10/40A,1XDVDROM BTC,HEC 425 WATT PSU.
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12-07-2003, 12:18 PM	#6
cgarner New Title Goes Here. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 100	look at the xfx geforce 5900. it is $196 at newegg.com and has better stock speeds than the ATI 9600. ATI has problems with drivers. If I want to play this game I need this driver...but wait, my temp on the GPU is too hot so I need this driver. Your decision....if you want to full around with drivers so you can get the best graphics...go ATI. IF you want nothing to do with it and sacrice FPS and some quality...go geforce. __________________ Asus A7N8X Deluxe v 1003 AMD 2600+ XFX Geforce FX 5900 overclocked @ 504mhz\910mhz 512 MB Corsair XMS 512 MB OCZ Performance WD 80GB 8MB cache 30GB SG Baracuda Vantec Stealth 420 Coolermaster ATCS 210
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12-07-2003, 10:18 PM	#8
bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,254	Catalysts get better every time __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x500GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6002_SP2
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12-08-2003, 02:28 AM	#9
Braveheart_abx Bill Gates is an alien Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 172	Thank you very much bajo! I am almost convinced in bying a ati radeon 9600 pro card!Think i'll wait a couple of days 2 c what u guys tell me here and then i'll decide 100%. Thanks again! __________________ (1st PC) AMD 3500+(S939),Thermalright XP 90 CPU Cooler with 90 mm Enermax Fan (64cfm) ,MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM , 2X512 MB RAM OCZ REV.2 PLATINUM , MSI 6800 GT PCI-XPRESS , 2X74 GB WD RAPTOR (RAID0),1x200 GB SEAGATE , SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY,LIAN LI Case,FORTRON 550 WATT PSU (2nd PC)P4 2,4GHZ , ASUS P4G8X,GEFORCE 5200,2x256 MB RAM DDR 400 ,1x80 GB HDD SEAGATE,Plaisio Case,ZALMAN 7000ALCU CPU FAN , HAUPPAUGE TV CARD , 1xPLEXTOR PLEXWRITER 16/10/40A,1XDVDROM BTC,HEC 425 WATT PSU.
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12-08-2003, 03:36 AM	#10
phongshader Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8	if you really want cheap, go with a Radeon 9500 64mb non-pro. You can find one at under 100 bucks, and you can softmod it to a 9500 Pro, which is as fast as a 9600XT.
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12-08-2003, 11:30 AM	#12
Mach_abx Overclocker Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 493	Get a 9500 pro or 9700 pro. Check Ebay. They will outperform the 9600 and are great cards IMO.
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12-08-2003, 11:39 AM	#13
Ice_abx Chillin' Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York Posts: 3,038	I'd go with an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. You can pick one up for about $150 online and it performs well on recent games. This is the card I went with when I helped my friend build his new computer and he's loving it. Keep in mind that there are EZ and Lite versions of the 9600 Pro so make sure you get the regular version, which is about the price I mentioned before. __________________ Mobo » DFI LANPARTY PRO875B rev. B1 (BIOS 0913) CPU » Intel 3.0c @ 3.95 GHz (263 FSB) RAM » 1GB OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum Rev. 2 @ 2.5-3-3-6 (DDR526) Video » BFG 6800 Ultra OC @ 470/1260 MHz Storage » Hard Drives » 2x SATA Western Digital SE 80GB in RAID 0 & Western Digital SE 250GB Storage » Optical » NEC ND-3500AG DL 16x DVD±RW & Pioneer DVD-105S 16x Sound » Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Power » OCZ PowerStream 520W Cooling » H2O » Koolance Exos-Al (CPU-300-H06 & VID-NV1-L06) Cooling » Air » Swiftech MCX159-P Chassis » Lian-Li PC-6085A Speakers » Logitech Z-680 Displays » Dell 2001FP & ViewSonic VP171b OS » Windows XP Pro SP2
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12-09-2003, 12:25 PM	#14
Braveheart_abx Bill Gates is an alien Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 172	I have just bought my ati radeon 9600 pro crad everything looks fine! My 3dmark2003 score is 3320 and my 3dmark2001 score is 11004. Is this normal? How big should i set the graphics aperture size through bios?What aboust USWC ir UC? __________________ (1st PC) AMD 3500+(S939),Thermalright XP 90 CPU Cooler with 90 mm Enermax Fan (64cfm) ,MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM , 2X512 MB RAM OCZ REV.2 PLATINUM , MSI 6800 GT PCI-XPRESS , 2X74 GB WD RAPTOR (RAID0),1x200 GB SEAGATE , SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY,LIAN LI Case,FORTRON 550 WATT PSU (2nd PC)P4 2,4GHZ , ASUS P4G8X,GEFORCE 5200,2x256 MB RAM DDR 400 ,1x80 GB HDD SEAGATE,Plaisio Case,ZALMAN 7000ALCU CPU FAN , HAUPPAUGE TV CARD , 1xPLEXTOR PLEXWRITER 16/10/40A,1XDVDROM BTC,HEC 425 WATT PSU.
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12-09-2003, 03:07 PM	#15
Razorback Is this thing on? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,007	I think you will like the 9600 Pro. Just put one in a pc I built and it works really well all around. 3dMark03 was around 3300-3500 depending on the settings. 3dMark2001 gave about 12,700. Your scores look right with normal settings (default). If you look in your setup, you probably have let the application decide selected. Set all your sliders to the left for performance. You will see a definite improvement in your scores. I haven't tried ocing but I have heard the card does this pretty well. HTH Aperature size: http://www.lostcircuits.com/advice/bios2/12.shtml I think you want USWC enabled if possible. Here is a post from this site. http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...=2508#post2508 Last edited by Razorback; 12-09-2003 at 03:37 PM..
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