EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please

*PeterT* · 12-06-2008, 08:56 AM

I need to get a vid card for the new PC I'm building for my daughter (P45, E7200, 8GB, Vista x64).
She likes racing games. I would like to spend approximately 100USD and have settled on the EVGA 9800GT cards. There are 2 models in the price range. The first is a single slot reference design and the second is a dual slot cooler design (which I like, because it expels hot air out of the case):
Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
The price on the dual slot model is better and I would prefer a dual slot, but the reviews are not as good, so I am undecided.

Any opinions, or better yet, personal experience with these cards?
TIA.

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Drufuss · 12-06-2008, 09:37 AM

Look's like the same card to me, just with better cooling.

What reviews are you talking about?

Greetings

Dru

P.S.: Any cheap hd4850's available for you?

*PeterT* · 12-06-2008, 09:58 AM

Hi Dru.
Yeah, they are basically the same card, different cooler. I was referring to the user reviews on those Newegg pages. The one with the dual slot cooler is 95USD after mail in rebate.

The cheapest 4850 I see is this one, 130USD after mail in rebate:
Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Drufuss · 12-06-2008, 10:53 AM

Hi PeterT!

It looks to me that the reviews for the dual slot cooler card are not so good because it is bigger, and because an additional fan blowing air aout of the case can eventually lead to higher cpu temps (but only 1 or 2 °).
I always liked dual slot coolers the blow the hot air out of the case.

About 35 USD more for the ATI card, hmm, don't know if it's worth it.
What kind of racing games is or would she be playing?
What resolution is or would be the preferred one?
BTW, the HD 4850 is DX10.1 whereas the 9800GT is DX10.

Greetings

Dru

*PeterT* · 12-06-2008, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the input, Dru. She plays Grid racing on my 8800GTS 512 and it runs great. So, the 9800GT should be fine. I think I'll go with the dual slot 9800GT for 95USD. I prefer to use cards with dual slot coolers because they exhaust the hot air out of the case.

Drufuss · 12-07-2008, 07:44 AM

Hi PeterT!

Here's another suggestion:
"RACE DRIVER: GRID

The HD 4830 really comes into its own against the 9800 GT in this game, where it was considerably faster at all resolutions. At 1,920 x 1,200 it recorded a minimum frame rate of 51fps and average frame rate of 64fps while the 9800 GT was well behind with a minimum frame rate of just 39fps and an average frame rate of 50fps. The game was playable on the 9800 GT at 1,920 x 1,200, but the cheaper HD 4830 was faster.

The HD 4850 was much faster than the other cards, recording a minimum frame rate of 58fps and average frame rate of 75fps at 1,920 x 1,200."

Greetings

Dru

*PeterT* · 12-07-2008, 11:26 AM

Hey Dru . After seeing those numbers, I think you changed my mind. The dual slot 8800GT would be 104USD after MIR & shipping. This Asus 4850 would be 130USD after MIR:
Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
That's only a 26USD difference. Unless I change my mind again today, I think I'll get the 4850. It is a little more than I wanted to spend and is not a dual slot cooler, but it will give me considerably better performance and a little future proofing. I hope it doesn't heat up the case too much.
Thanks.

*PeterT* · 12-07-2008, 05:52 PM

Well, I ordered the Asus 4850 TOP. Wish me luck!

Sir Skully · 12-07-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

Well, I ordered the Asus 4580 TOP. Wish me luck!

Here's to ya getting a great card..........

*PeterT* · 12-07-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skully

Here's to ya getting a great card..........

Thank you Sir!

fvbounty · 12-07-2008, 09:19 PM

Good choice enjoy!!!!!!!

12-06-2008, 08:56 AM	#1
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,937	EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please I need to get a vid card for the new PC I'm building for my daughter (P45, E7200, 8GB, Vista x64). She likes racing games. I would like to spend approximately 100USD and have settled on the EVGA 9800GT cards. There are 2 models in the price range. The first is a single slot reference design and the second is a dual slot cooler design (which I like, because it expels hot air out of the case): Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards The price on the dual slot model is better and I would prefer a dual slot, but the reviews are not as good, so I am undecided. Any opinions, or better yet, personal experience with these cards? TIA. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-06-2008, 09:37 AM	#2
Drufuss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Netherland Posts: 2,914	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Look's like the same card to me, just with better cooling. What reviews are you talking about? Greetings Dru P.S.: Any cheap hd4850's available for you? __________________ System specs: Asus P5Q (watercooled) Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz @ 3.42 GHz (watercooled) 4 x 2GB DDR2-Ram PC2-1066 Corsair Dominator @ 800MHz 2 x WD green 1TB SATA-II in Raid0 (watercooled) Sapphire HD4870X2 2048MB (watercooled) Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro, Hauppauge HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T, Dlink DWL-G510, Logitech Z-5450 5.1 THX Wireless Logitech DiNovo MediaDesktop 2.0 Enermax Modu82+ 625W Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit retail CUSL2-C ruled! ..äh... RulEd! Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
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12-06-2008, 09:58 AM	#3
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,937	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Hi Dru. Yeah, they are basically the same card, different cooler. I was referring to the user reviews on those Newegg pages. The one with the dual slot cooler is 95USD after mail in rebate. The cheapest 4850 I see is this one, 130USD after mail in rebate: Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-06-2008, 10:53 AM	#4
Drufuss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Netherland Posts: 2,914	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Hi PeterT! It looks to me that the reviews for the dual slot cooler card are not so good because it is bigger, and because an additional fan blowing air aout of the case can eventually lead to higher cpu temps (but only 1 or 2 °). I always liked dual slot coolers the blow the hot air out of the case. About 35 USD more for the ATI card, hmm, don't know if it's worth it. What kind of racing games is or would she be playing? What resolution is or would be the preferred one? BTW, the HD 4850 is DX10.1 whereas the 9800GT is DX10. Greetings Dru __________________ System specs: Asus P5Q (watercooled) Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz @ 3.42 GHz (watercooled) 4 x 2GB DDR2-Ram PC2-1066 Corsair Dominator @ 800MHz 2 x WD green 1TB SATA-II in Raid0 (watercooled) Sapphire HD4870X2 2048MB (watercooled) Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro, Hauppauge HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T, Dlink DWL-G510, Logitech Z-5450 5.1 THX Wireless Logitech DiNovo MediaDesktop 2.0 Enermax Modu82+ 625W Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit retail CUSL2-C ruled! ..äh... RulEd! Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. Last edited by Drufuss; 12-06-2008 at 10:59 AM..
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12-06-2008, 01:36 PM	#5
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,937	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Thanks for the input, Dru. She plays Grid racing on my 8800GTS 512 and it runs great. So, the 9800GT should be fine. I think I'll go with the dual slot 9800GT for 95USD. I prefer to use cards with dual slot coolers because they exhaust the hot air out of the case. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-07-2008, 07:44 AM	#6
Drufuss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Netherland Posts: 2,914	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Hi PeterT! Here's another suggestion: "RACE DRIVER: GRID The HD 4830 really comes into its own against the 9800 GT in this game, where it was considerably faster at all resolutions. At 1,920 x 1,200 it recorded a minimum frame rate of 51fps and average frame rate of 64fps while the 9800 GT was well behind with a minimum frame rate of just 39fps and an average frame rate of 50fps. The game was playable on the 9800 GT at 1,920 x 1,200, but the cheaper HD 4830 was faster. The HD 4850 was much faster than the other cards, recording a minimum frame rate of 58fps and average frame rate of 75fps at 1,920 x 1,200." Greetings Dru __________________ System specs: Asus P5Q (watercooled) Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz @ 3.42 GHz (watercooled) 4 x 2GB DDR2-Ram PC2-1066 Corsair Dominator @ 800MHz 2 x WD green 1TB SATA-II in Raid0 (watercooled) Sapphire HD4870X2 2048MB (watercooled) Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro, Hauppauge HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T, Dlink DWL-G510, Logitech Z-5450 5.1 THX Wireless Logitech DiNovo MediaDesktop 2.0 Enermax Modu82+ 625W Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit retail CUSL2-C ruled! ..äh... RulEd! Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
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12-07-2008, 11:26 AM	#7
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,937	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Hey Dru . After seeing those numbers, I think you changed my mind. The dual slot 8800GT would be 104USD after MIR & shipping. This Asus 4850 would be 130USD after MIR: Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards That's only a 26USD difference. Unless I change my mind again today, I think I'll get the 4850. It is a little more than I wanted to spend and is not a dual slot cooler, but it will give me considerably better performance and a little future proofing. I hope it doesn't heat up the case too much. Thanks. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-07-2008, 05:52 PM	#8
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,937	Re: EVGA 9800GT Models - Opinions Please Well, I ordered the Asus 4850 TOP. Wish me luck! __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate * Last edited by PeterT; 12-07-2008 at 07:46 PM..
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12-07-2008, 09:19 PM	#11
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