GeForce FX 5200 or ATI 9500 Pro?

[overclocker23]

Hello,
Right now I have a GeForce4 MX440 (64MB) and I have overclocked it to the speeds of TI4600. Anyways, I was looking for video cards and my dad knows this guy who is selling a GeForce4 FX5200 for $100.00 and I was looking to buy an ATI 9500 Pro and then change it's BIOS to make it work as a 9700 Pro.

I was wondering which one should I go for.
Both of them support DirectX 9.0 and both of them have 128MB.
Let me know which is best in overclocking and total performance.

Specs for GeForce4 FX5200.
Gainward PRO660/TV 128MB 8XAGP GEFORCE FX5200 WITH TV OUT, GeForce FX 5200 128MB

[CrowdAds]

[Scoundrel]

You have a MX440 OC'd to match a TI4600.......Yeah right

Dont expect a GFX 5200 to be faster than a TI4200

GeForce FX 5200 Ultra:
Memory Bandwidth: 10.4GB/sec.
Fill Rate: 1.3 billion texels/sec.
Vertices per Second: 81 million/sec.
Maximum Memory: 128MB


GeForce 4 TI4200:
Memory Bandwidth: 8.GB/sec.
Fill Rate: 4 billion AA samples sec.
Vertices per Second: 113 million/sec.
Operations per Second: 1.03 Trillion
Maximum Memory: 128MB

[min_abx]

quite a price difference between the two ur comparing
the 9500pro is about 170 and the gainward gf.fx 5200 is 79 dollars on pricewatch...
imo, i dont like the 5200 just b/c its like a mx version

[Sir_JaKoNT|L]

9500Pro is a good performance card!

but don't be wrong, the later version of 9500Pro use different PCB than of 9700 series, unless it is the earlier version, i doubt it that you could match 9700 Pro

but till 9500Pro performs good when flashed to 9700

[DOA]

The 9500 Pro is clearly much better than a 5200. The 5600 might be a little better competition but still can't beat the Radeon. My Radeon 9500 Pro goes beyond Radeon 9700 Pro speeds quite easily but loses a bit due to the 128-bit memory.

If you want something that overclocks and performs well then the 9600 Pro is your card. Using the 0.13um core, this card is reported to go past 500MHz on the core. The performance is a little below the 9500 Pro but still better than the 5600 so you're best off with a 9500/9600 Pro.

[barureddy]

I like the concept of a dx9 card that is below $80 and has decent performance. Quite fankly if I had to do it all over again I would have gone for the cheap good card at the time ti 4200 and not buy the ti 4600. I don't need to play games more than 60 fps at 1200x1024 (though sometimes 1600x1200 is really nice). At the current rates of graphics cards, a new generation comes out almost once every 6 months. So basically 6 months from now the new cards will be much better and your $400 card will be worth half as much if yor lucky.

So basically you between nvidia and ati. All I have to say in my experience from tnt2 ultra to gf4, nvidia has had very reliable products and great drivers.

[computergeek]

Neither go for the 9600 pro. Hardcop did some test and the thing is supposed to be a crazy overclocker! But I would wait for some more reivews before you make a final choice.

[overclocker23]

Thanks, I will go for either 9500 Pro or 9600 Pro. " Scoundrel" I think you are having some problems not believing me. If you look in the "Intel General" forum, you can see that someone overclocked their 1.8GHZ CPU TO 3.0 Ghz which is very rare and the owner got pretty lucky. I think I have the same thing with my Video Card. I am running at Ti4600 Speeds. Besdies, I am water cooling the card. Thanks guys for your help. Really appreciate it.

[Sir_JaKoNT|L]

Originally posted by overclocker23
Thanks, I will go for either 9500 Pro or 9600 Pro. " Scoundrel" I think you are having some problems not believing me. If you look in the "Intel General" forum, you can see that someone overclocked their 1.8GHZ CPU TO 3.0 Ghz which is very rare and the owner got pretty lucky. I think I have the same thing with my Video Card. I am running at Ti4600 Speeds. Besdies, I am water cooling the card. Thanks guys for your help. Really appreciate it.

don't be wrong, may be scoundrel thinks that you Overclock your MX to perform as good as Ti4600

i believe that it is easy to overclock the lower range of Nvidia series

most Ti4200 can run as high as Ti4600 in terms of speed

[Scoundrel]

Originally posted by overclocker23
Thanks, I will go for either 9500 Pro or 9600 Pro. " Scoundrel" I think you are having some problems not believing me. If you look in the "Intel General" forum, you can see that someone overclocked their 1.8GHZ CPU TO 3.0 Ghz which is very rare and the owner got pretty lucky. I think I have the same thing with my Video Card. I am running at Ti4600 Speeds. Besdies, I am water cooling the card. Thanks guys for your help. Really appreciate it.

The highest score at Futuremark.com for a GF4MX is 10863 3dmarks nowhere near the performance people get with a TI4600 (18533 is the highest @ futuremark ) So yes I have a hard time believing that.

With those speeds why would you want to downgrade to a ATI 9500 or GFX5200 ?

[Sir_JaKoNT|L]

Originally posted by Scoundrel
The highest score at Futuremark.com for a GF4MX is 10863 3dmarks nowhere near the performance people get with a TI4600 (18533 is the highest @ futuremark ) So yes I have a hard time believing that.

With those speeds why would you want to downgrade to a ATI 9500 or GFX5200 ?

that's what i thought, performance wise? no but speed wise? may be

[Scoundrel]

Originally posted by Sir_JaKoNT|L
that's what i thought, performance wise? no but speed wise? may be

Hi Jakz (long time no see)

What's the difference between Performance & Speed ?

[Sir_JaKoNT|L]

Originally posted by Scoundrel
Hi Jakz (long time no see)

What's the difference between Performance & Speed ?

yeah mate, was looking for you!

but glad to see u back now budd

in speed, it is the core speed when overclocked and performance, we talking here about 3DMark and stuff like that

so what i meant was, it may be overclocked as high as Ti4600 series, around 300 MHz core speed, but in terms of performance, i don't think it comes anywhere near Ti4600 performance (based on 3DMark bench and any kind), well that is what i believe though

[Scoundrel]

Originally posted by Sir_JaKoNT|L
yeah mate, was looking for you!

but glad to see u back now budd

in speed, it is the core speed when overclocked and performance, we talking here about 3DMark and stuff like that

so what i meant was, it may be overclocked as high as Ti4600 series, around 300 MHz core speed, but in terms of performance, i don't think it comes anywhere near Ti4600 performance, well that is what i believe though

Right on buddy, that's exactly what i mean too

[overclocker23]

I want to buy a ATI9500pro or 9600 Pro because of DirectX 9 Support. My video may run at the speeds of TI4600 but that doesn't mean that it gives me equal performance. Thnaks for replying.