HELP, TV out is black & white, UGH!!!!!

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:02 PM

Setup:
TNT2 Ultra: using svideo out, going thru the s-video-to-yellow RCA adapter to connect to my Sony 27" Trinitron.
nVidia 41.09
98SE

ALL I see is B&W! No matter what I try I can not get color.
The picture I see on my TV is mostly clear. It does have a slight distortion, yet visable enough to see the desktop and to operate the controls.

I'm in the US so I'm using M/NTSC. I've tried other formats(PAL, etc.) for fun/troubleshooting, but it is clear that NTSC is the right format, it's just stuck in B&W.

I've tried all kinds of settings within the nVidia driver app with no luck. I've also tried TVTool 6.8 with no luck either. I'm confident in my yellow Video RCA INPUT into my TV. It works, for I use it all the time with my handycam. I'm not positive that my S-Video OUT on my TNT2 Ultra is functioning properly. I think it is otherwise I would see NO picture on my TV.

Also, I do see a few patches of color. While I have the desktop displayed on the TV, a couple icons do have a little bit of color around the edges(i.e. around the My Computer icon, it's slightly orangish, and only orangish on the let edge of the icon). Also while using TVTool, with the test bars displayed, a couple of "blocks" of color appears, as if in a pattern.

What am I over looking? All suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated?

TIA,
etalon

KingTermite · 03-08-2003, 12:12 PM

Why are you going through yellow on an RCA adatper?

If you have a Sony Triniton 27" (same as mine), then you can just go S-video to S-video. Mine works fine that way.

Sir Skully · 03-08-2003, 12:16 PM

All I could see for about 15 yrs was black & white TV. From the 1950's into the 60's.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:28 PM

Good point, that is my next step, go out and buy an s-video-to-s-video cable.

I own the s-video-to-yellow RCA adapter so I thought what the heck, try it. It's supposed to work right? Why would Creative Labs package it with the TNT2 Ultra in the first place?

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:30 PM

Skully, I appreciate that!

I don't quite remember only B&W, but I do remember just having 3 channels of color via the good old rabbit ears. hehe

KingTermite · 03-08-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by etalon
Good point, that is my next step, go out and buy an s-video-to-s-video cable.

I own the s-video-to-yellow RCA adapter so I thought what the heck, try it. It's supposed to work right? Why would Creative Labs package it with the TNT2 Ultra in the first place?

I don't know, I"ve never used those cables. But since there are other color cables, it seems that maybe its only transmitting one part of the signal and not enough to get the color.

I think I did have to buy an S-video to S-video for my Ti4400 too, but it was only about $6 or something at circuit city.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:40 PM

KingTermite,
Yeah, I figure I'd give RadioShack a try, they're 3 minutes down the road. Otherwise, it's Compusa or BestBuy, 15 minutes, which is a toss-up really...

I was hoping this would be a simple fix, even by using the RCA.
I'll post my results of using and s-video-to-s-video, sometime later today....

Thanks for your input!

EdRush · 03-08-2003, 12:40 PM

Ive had that happen once with my V8200 Asus GF3 deluxe..

Turned out that either my TV was set to the wrong video in or that i had used the wrong setting or plug.

I believe that the SVIDEO uses a seperate channel for each color while Composite is just one signal containing all colors. Check your wiring and setup on both the TV and vid card. Make sure that the input for your TV is the correct one as most TVs have Video 1 IN for SVideo and Video 2 for composite. If i remember correctly the composite signal actually worked when i was using the Svideo in but since it wasnt on the right video input mode (2) it displayed it all in B/W since i think the inputs for both SVIDEO and Composite have common hardwired signal sharing.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:44 PM

Ah, i just thought of another question.
What's the difference between 4 pin and I think 7 pin s-video.

My TNT2 ultra has the 7 pin variety.
My Handycam has the 4 pin variety.
As I was troubleshooting I tried plugging in my svid-to-yellowRCA adapter that came with my vid card into my handycam. No Love. I looked at the connector and saw the pin difference. I was hoing to rule out the adapter as faulty.

Any info on the difference?
Thanks again.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EdRush
Ive had that happen once with my V8200 Asus GF3 deluxe..

Turned out that either my TV was set to the wrong video in or that i had used the wrong setting or plug.

I believe that the SVIDEO uses a seperate channel for each color while Composite is just one signal containing all colors. Check your wiring and setup on both the TV and vid card. Make sure that the input for your TV is the correct one as most TVs have Video 1 IN for SVideo and Video 2 for composite. If i remember correctly the composite signal actually worked when i was using the Svideo in but since it wasnt on the right video input mode (2) it displayed it all in B/W since i think the inputs for both SVIDEO and Composite have common hardwired signal sharing.

Hmm,.. I'm confident that my video selection is correct on my TV, which happens to be video2(im using the front plugs)

Interesting point about the composite and svideo selection for Vid1 and Vid2, respectively. I just tried them both. Both appear the same, I can not distinguish between the two - again, I'm pluggged into Vid2 on my TV. Both display B&W, both are equally clear, with slight distortion.

<edit> I've also tried, thru the nVidia app, the Auto-select(auto between composite and svideo). Here again I see no difference in video quality.

Thanks for your input.

KingTermite · 03-08-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by etalon
Ah, i just thought of another question.
What's the difference between 4 pin and I think 7 pin s-video.

My TNT2 ultra has the 7 pin variety.
My Handycam has the 4 pin variety.
As I was troubleshooting I tried plugging in my svid-to-yellowRCA adapter that came with my vid card into my handycam. No Love. I looked at the connector and saw the pin difference. I was hoing to rule out the adapter as faulty.

Any info on the difference?
Thanks again.

I'm not sure, precisely, but I think its just a special version for small devices. Just like the camera USB connectors have a smaller connector than the standard USB.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 01:35 PM

Ah.. perhaps KingTermite. Strangely tho, they are the same physical size. hmm..

KingTermite · 03-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by etalon
Ah.. perhaps KingTermite. Strangely tho, they are the same physical size. hmm..

Could be a different standard for the smaller devices. Kind of like RS232 standard has a 9-pin (COM port) and a 25-pin (old printer ports) standard.

etalon · 03-08-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingTermite
Could be a different standard for the smaller devices. Kind of like RS232 standard has a 9-pin (COM port) and a 25-pin (old printer ports) standard.

Yeah I bet your right.

ibarnett · 03-08-2003, 03:29 PM

Try the setup in your TV menu.
I had the same problem playing USA DVD's on one of my TV's in Australia (PAL). One set was OK the other was B & W. On the TV set went into setup and changed from PAL to Auto - now colour!

03-08-2003, 12:02 PM	#1
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	HELP, TV out is black & white, UGH!!!!! Setup: TNT2 Ultra: using svideo out, going thru the s-video-to-yellow RCA adapter to connect to my Sony 27" Trinitron. nVidia 41.09 98SE ALL I see is B&W! No matter what I try I can not get color. The picture I see on my TV is mostly clear. It does have a slight distortion, yet visable enough to see the desktop and to operate the controls. I'm in the US so I'm using M/NTSC. I've tried other formats(PAL, etc.) for fun/troubleshooting, but it is clear that NTSC is the right format, it's just stuck in B&W. I've tried all kinds of settings within the nVidia driver app with no luck. I've also tried TVTool 6.8 with no luck either. I'm confident in my yellow Video RCA INPUT into my TV. It works, for I use it all the time with my handycam. I'm not positive that my S-Video OUT on my TNT2 Ultra is functioning properly. I think it is otherwise I would see NO picture on my TV. Also, I do see a few patches of color. While I have the desktop displayed on the TV, a couple icons do have a little bit of color around the edges(i.e. around the My Computer icon, it's slightly orangish, and only orangish on the let edge of the icon). Also while using TVTool, with the test bars displayed, a couple of "blocks" of color appears, as if in a pattern. What am I over looking? All suggestions and advice are greatly appreciated? TIA, etalon
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03-08-2003, 12:12 PM	#2
KingTermite The Shade of Lazarus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PM me to keep in contact Posts: 26,003	Why are you going through yellow on an RCA adatper? If you have a Sony Triniton 27" (same as mine), then you can just go S-video to S-video. Mine works fine that way. __________________ Bye Bye ABXZone.....Rest In Peace.
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03-08-2003, 12:16 PM	#3
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,239	All I could see for about 15 yrs was black & white TV. From the 1950's into the 60's. __________________ .....................................................................................................................
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03-08-2003, 12:28 PM	#4
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	No s-video cable Good point, that is my next step, go out and buy an s-video-to-s-video cable. I own the s-video-to-yellow RCA adapter so I thought what the heck, try it. It's supposed to work right? Why would Creative Labs package it with the TNT2 Ultra in the first place?
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03-08-2003, 12:30 PM	#5
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	Skully, I appreciate that! I don't quite remember only B&W, but I do remember just having 3 channels of color via the good old rabbit ears. hehe
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03-08-2003, 12:40 PM	#7
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	KingTermite, Yeah, I figure I'd give RadioShack a try, they're 3 minutes down the road. Otherwise, it's Compusa or BestBuy, 15 minutes, which is a toss-up really... I was hoping this would be a simple fix, even by using the RCA. I'll post my results of using and s-video-to-s-video, sometime later today.... Thanks for your input!
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03-08-2003, 12:40 PM	#8
EdRush DAW/Audio Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Montreal Quebec Canada Posts: 2,059	Ive had that happen once with my V8200 Asus GF3 deluxe.. Turned out that either my TV was set to the wrong video in or that i had used the wrong setting or plug. I believe that the SVIDEO uses a seperate channel for each color while Composite is just one signal containing all colors. Check your wiring and setup on both the TV and vid card. Make sure that the input for your TV is the correct one as most TVs have Video 1 IN for SVideo and Video 2 for composite. If i remember correctly the composite signal actually worked when i was using the Svideo in but since it wasnt on the right video input mode (2) it displayed it all in B/W since i think the inputs for both SVIDEO and Composite have common hardwired signal sharing. __________________ P4 2.6C @ 3.45Mhz 1.60V ASUS P4C800-E DLX CORSAIR XMS4400C25 2x512 @ 265mhz 1:1 @ 2.5/3/3/6 BFG 6800 ULTRA OC @ 450 / 1200 WD RAPTOR 74GB x 2 on SATA RAID 0 WD 800JB 80GB (8MB) x 2 on IDE RME HDSP HAMMERFALL 9632 PCI DSP PLEXSTOR PX-712A DVD+/-R 12X ANTEC 1080Plus true550w
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03-08-2003, 12:44 PM	#9
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	types of s-video Ah, i just thought of another question. What's the difference between 4 pin and I think 7 pin s-video. My TNT2 ultra has the 7 pin variety. My Handycam has the 4 pin variety. As I was troubleshooting I tried plugging in my svid-to-yellowRCA adapter that came with my vid card into my handycam. No Love. I looked at the connector and saw the pin difference. I was hoing to rule out the adapter as faulty. Any info on the difference? Thanks again. Last edited by etalon; 03-08-2003 at 12:58 PM..
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03-08-2003, 01:35 PM	#12
etalon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	Ah.. perhaps KingTermite. Strangely tho, they are the same physical size. hmm..
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03-08-2003, 03:29 PM	#15
ibarnett Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Robina Posts: 63	Try the setup in your TV menu. I had the same problem playing USA DVD's on one of my TV's in Australia (PAL). One set was OK the other was B & W. On the TV set went into setup and changed from PAL to Auto - now colour!
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