need a 3870 - Page 2

iMogal · 01-27-2008, 03:15 PM

yea, just one card.

My OC isn't stable though

The benchmark runs without a hitch, but as soon as I play... crash.
its a new build, and I'm not sure of all these new BIOS features for OCing...
not as easy as the old P4 system

had to reduce the clock to 9x300, seems stable here. (prime95 for the last 45 mins)

iMogal · 01-29-2008, 09:30 AM

Dear Sir,

H387Q512N is a turbo version while H387QS512N is a standard version.

Thanks and Best Regards,
HIS Support

traveler · 01-29-2008, 09:50 PM

Thanks for the info.

bajo · 02-01-2008, 08:31 PM

The new monster, dual gpu hd3870x2 is another option, when it shows up for sale.. for close to $500...!

traveler · 02-02-2008, 12:31 AM

Is that the new case they're being shipped and sold in?

iMogal · 02-03-2008, 11:58 PM

Well, as some may know I've been having issues with a new build.
Finially narrowed it down to this card.
Either stock settings, or OC'd, my new build is locking up/rebooting while playing 3D.
I've finally desided to down clock this card and have been able to play some games.
Set the clocks to 750 core, and 950 mem, and I've finished the crysis demo for the first time.

I've asked for an RMA replacement, cuz I do believe this card has great potential.
With rivatuner controlling the fan that is... lol.

traveler · 02-04-2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMogal

Well, as some may know I've been having issues with a new build.
Finially narrowed it down to this card.
Either stock settings, or OC'd, my new build is locking up/rebooting while playing 3D.
I've finally desided to down clock this card and have been able to play some games.
Set the clocks to 750 core, and 950 mem, and I've finished the crysis demo for the first time.

I've asked for an RMA replacement, cuz I do believe this card has great potential.
With rivatuner controlling the fan that is... lol.

750 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's lower than stock speed of 775 !!!

I hope the new replacement card runs properly. Any other owners having problems like this with this card?

bajo · 02-04-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traveler

Is that the new case they're being shipped and sold in?

who knows.. doubt it, theyre not out as of yet...

iMogal · 02-23-2008, 01:48 PM

So I got my replacement card...
It actually runs at speed this time!!

Although, this one is overheating.

I'm 99% sure it got jarred during shipping, and removing the heatsink and reaplying new thermal compound would salve the overheating, it'll void the warranty

What would you recommend I do? Void the warranty and more then likely fix the overheating;
or would you RMA the card? and hope the (third) one works...

P.S. If I up the fan speed 100% I can run games at 850/1190 speeds without crashing.

traveler · 02-23-2008, 02:51 PM

The fan is supposed to be automaticly heat controlled. It should automatically be at the top speed setting when needed. I'd call tech support if your second card heat sensor isn't working right.

iMogal · 02-26-2008, 11:53 PM

I got a BIOS update from HIs,

I flashed the card, I also removed the heatsink and replaced the thermal compound. Used MX-2

My idle temps are now at 40c idle vise 60c idle before flash and MX-2.
Highest load temp I've seen is 53c (vise 70c +) as monitored through rivatuner's hardwar monitor.(playing fear/crysis)
I no longer have to manually adjust the fan, it works properly now!!! WOOT!

So HUGE improvement through the flash and compound replacement!!!

BUT! (isn't there always one of them?!)

I still get VPU errors?!?!
Although they are ALOT fewer and farther between...
Can this be a driver issue, and not hardware?
Never hard these problems with my 800xl tho...

Thoughts?

traveler · 02-27-2008, 12:15 AM

I read somewhere (an ATI Radeon tweak site) to just turn off the error correction in the driver and just play.

Howard Stern_abx · 03-06-2008, 07:39 PM

Are you still having issues with your HIS card? I returned mine do to my system becoming so unstable and vpu errors. NewEggs reviews also show this card to be a bit unstable. Many complaints on the website. I called newegg and asked them to please let me order a new card. They refunded my money so I ordered the diamond which is scheduled to come in tomorrow. Hope yours is working well.

iMogal · 03-06-2008, 08:38 PM

As a matter of fact, I have got mine working great!!
(just last night) I discovered that in game anti aliasing was causing the crashing.
Most games were fine, Guild Wars was the #1 culprit for crashing with in game AA. (crashed within 10-15 seconds of play)
I've disabled all in game AA, and enable it through CCC. Problems(so far) fixed!

Howard Stern_abx · 03-06-2008, 10:22 PM

Great news, glad you are all set. I hate to see anyone get burned after spending lots of money.

01-27-2008, 03:15 PM	#16
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 yea, just one card. My OC isn't stable though The benchmark runs without a hitch, but as soon as I play... crash. its a new build, and I'm not sure of all these new BIOS features for OCing... not as easy as the old P4 system had to reduce the clock to 9x300, seems stable here. (prime95 for the last 45 mins) __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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01-29-2008, 09:30 AM	#17
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 Dear Sir, H387Q512N is a turbo version while H387QS512N is a standard version. Thanks and Best Regards, HIS Support __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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01-29-2008, 09:50 PM	#18
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,491	Thanks for the info.
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02-01-2008, 08:31 PM	#19
bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,254	Re: need a 3870 The new monster, dual gpu hd3870x2 is another option, when it shows up for sale.. for close to $500...! __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x500GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6002_SP2
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02-02-2008, 12:31 AM	#20
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,491	Is that the new case they're being shipped and sold in?
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02-03-2008, 11:58 PM	#21
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 Well, as some may know I've been having issues with a new build. Finially narrowed it down to this card. Either stock settings, or OC'd, my new build is locking up/rebooting while playing 3D. I've finally desided to down clock this card and have been able to play some games. Set the clocks to 750 core, and 950 mem, and I've finished the crysis demo for the first time. I've asked for an RMA replacement, cuz I do believe this card has great potential. With rivatuner controlling the fan that is... lol. __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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02-23-2008, 01:48 PM	#24
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 So I got my replacement card... It actually runs at speed this time!! Although, this one is overheating. I'm 99% sure it got jarred during shipping, and removing the heatsink and reaplying new thermal compound would salve the overheating, it'll void the warranty What would you recommend I do? Void the warranty and more then likely fix the overheating; or would you RMA the card? and hope the (third) one works... P.S. If I up the fan speed 100% I can run games at 850/1190 speeds without crashing. __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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02-23-2008, 02:51 PM	#25
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,491	The fan is supposed to be automaticly heat controlled. It should automatically be at the top speed setting when needed. I'd call tech support if your second card heat sensor isn't working right.
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02-26-2008, 11:53 PM	#26
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 I got a BIOS update from HIs, I flashed the card, I also removed the heatsink and replaced the thermal compound. Used MX-2 My idle temps are now at 40c idle vise 60c idle before flash and MX-2. Highest load temp I've seen is 53c (vise 70c +) as monitored through rivatuner's hardwar monitor.(playing fear/crysis) I no longer have to manually adjust the fan, it works properly now!!! WOOT! So HUGE improvement through the flash and compound replacement!!! BUT! (isn't there always one of them?!) I still get VPU errors?!?! Although they are ALOT fewer and farther between... Can this be a driver issue, and not hardware? Never hard these problems with my 800xl tho... Thoughts? __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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02-27-2008, 12:15 AM	#27
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,491	I read somewhere (an ATI Radeon tweak site) to just turn off the error correction in the driver and just play.
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03-06-2008, 07:39 PM	#28
Howard Stern_abx King Of All Media Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: VA Posts: 793	Re: need a 3870 Are you still having issues with your HIS card? I returned mine do to my system becoming so unstable and vpu errors. NewEggs reviews also show this card to be a bit unstable. Many complaints on the website. I called newegg and asked them to please let me order a new card. They refunded my money so I ordered the diamond which is scheduled to come in tomorrow. Hope yours is working well. __________________ Windows Vista 64\| E8500@4.14Gig\| Zalman 9700 LED \| Asus Rampage Formula \| 2 WD 74 gig Raptors \|1 250 GIG WD 16 meg cache\| 4 GIGS of Corsair Dominator DDR-2 1066 \| Diamond Viper 3870 \| NEC AD-7170A DVD burner\| Lite-on LH-20A1H \| SB X-fi Fatal1ty\| Logitech 5300E 5.1 speakers\| Onboard GIG Nic\| Verizon FIOS Internet service 30 megs down/5 up \| ViewSonic VX 2640W 1080P \| Full Size Gigabyte Aurora Tower with 4 case fans\| FSP 600W power supply\| Canon 8400F Scanner\| Canon I850 Photo Printer\| Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
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03-06-2008, 08:38 PM	#29
iMogal Zoom Zoom... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,189	Re: need a 3870 As a matter of fact, I have got mine working great!! (just last night) I discovered that in game anti aliasing was causing the crashing. Most games were fine, Guild Wars was the #1 culprit for crashing with in game AA. (crashed within 10-15 seconds of play) I've disabled all in game AA, and enable it through CCC. Problems(so far) fixed! __________________ SilverStone LG-08 Asus P5E-VM HDMI Intel e2180 O/C'd 2.85Ghz (8x355) 2x2Gb G.Skill DDR2-1000 (5,5,4,14) (2:3 533Mhz) Maxotr 120 Gig SATA 8Mb HIS 3870 Iceq3 Turbo 850 Corsair HX620 Modular PSU Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW Monsoon MM-700 2.1 Speakers __________________
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03-06-2008, 10:22 PM	#30
Howard Stern_abx King Of All Media Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: VA Posts: 793	Re: need a 3870 Great news, glad you are all set. I hate to see anyone get burned after spending lots of money. __________________ Windows Vista 64\| E8500@4.14Gig\| Zalman 9700 LED \| Asus Rampage Formula \| 2 WD 74 gig Raptors \|1 250 GIG WD 16 meg cache\| 4 GIGS of Corsair Dominator DDR-2 1066 \| Diamond Viper 3870 \| NEC AD-7170A DVD burner\| Lite-on LH-20A1H \| SB X-fi Fatal1ty\| Logitech 5300E 5.1 speakers\| Onboard GIG Nic\| Verizon FIOS Internet service 30 megs down/5 up \| ViewSonic VX 2640W 1080P \| Full Size Gigabyte Aurora Tower with 4 case fans\| FSP 600W power supply\| Canon 8400F Scanner\| Canon I850 Photo Printer\| Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
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