nVidia drivers

Manuel Gomes · 02-24-2003, 06:33 PM

I already asked this here before but no replies. Let's see if I get lucky this time.
How can we modify, this was already explained in the past but can't find it, nVidia based drivers (Asus' version in my case) so that it will install in English only, not in the language of the currently set locale. I have the English version of Windows but my regional settings are Portuguese, so the drivers install in Portuguese instead of English. How can I change this?

spookyload · 02-28-2003, 11:20 AM

I would say change your regional settings back to english, then install the driver, restart and set your regional settings back to portugese.

Frenjon · 02-28-2003, 02:28 PM

What text are you annoyed about?
The nVIDIA tray icon? - the sound setup? - what?

Baud · 02-28-2003, 04:38 PM

I believe he's talking about the nVidia features you get in display properties.
Mine are in dutch, because it's the local language setting, but my WinXP version is english, and I understand he wants to have it all in english.
Spookyload idea looks fine, and is worth trying

Manuel Gomes · 03-05-2003, 05:10 PM

It's a no go, I've tried that long ago - that would have been easy. It switches back to Portuguese. All the files (help, dll) are installed, and they must be selected at startup or something, it detects the changes. I guess I'll have to dwell some more and with more attention to the inf files and all and check out if there's an auto option for the install that you can select manual override to English or something. There are I believe stripped down versions of the drivers with only English installation (for file size sake mostly I believe) but not all versions.
Correct, it's the display properties that get all messed up, strings are not of the same size and get cut, bad translations, incomplete sentences, some strings are not translated yet, you name it! And it's a mess having both languages mixed up.
Let me know if you can do it. By the way, I'm using 98SE maybe it's different for XP.
Why can't nVidia let us decide what language to use like everyone else (it's starting to look like Intel, forcing the way things should go), ask during install?

Frenjon · 03-06-2003, 09:40 AM

Manuel Gomes - I know this isn't you excact problem - but it could get you an idea of what to do...

I posted this on another board about a week ago...

A followup to the Tray program...

The files SSTraXX.dll and SStrmXX.dll (Where XX is the language) are located in the WinNT/System32 folder - all in all there are 26 languages...

If you delete the 26*2 dll files you save 44,6 MB! - and the tray program just uses the default language english

Great to finally get rid of the lame danish translations that the program decided to install on itself..

(I haven't tested it with "startup" - but the proggie works fine with manual startup of sstray.exe)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Works fine when booting - there are also 26 SSCplXX.dll files - now a total of 45,5 mb saved

I thing that just comes to mind - when installing detonator drivers - just extract the files from the .exe (I asume you are using the .exe-file drivers from nVIDIA) Then delete all the language files except english.. - I'm almost certain this will work

Frenjon · 03-06-2003, 10:16 AM

Followup Manuel Gomes....

I went ahead and downloaded Win2KXP3140H.exe (graphics drivers for asus nvidia based graphic cards..)

There are alot of these files...

nvcpXX.hlp
nvwcpXX.hlp
nvwrsXX.dll
nvrsXX.dll

So - of course XX is the language - try deleting every one of these files except:

nvrseng.dll
nvwrseng.dll
nvcpeng.hlp
nvwcpeng.hlp

Note there are 15 other .dll files you shouldn't delete...

Then just go ahead and reinstall the driver... First remember to uninstall the current drivers... - this SHOULD work

Manuel Gomes · 03-06-2003, 10:16 AM

That is the idea, yes. I'm not sure if I tried that already (my experiments were long ago now) but I'll give it another try, hope I don't get any lockups for files missing, but it seems the right way to do it. I believe what I did was delete the files prior to installing and it would complain about missing files, not deleting after installation. I'll try that. Thanx.
My issue is exactly the sometimes silly and incorrect tranlations that we're forced to use since the install program never asks what language you wish to use.

Thanx again.

Manuel Gomes · 03-06-2003, 01:44 PM

Hi Frenjon

That was quick, thanks. I had those already dowloaded as well, I'll remove the other languages (arrghh) files tonight and if I have the time install the drivers from scratch.
Hope this works.
Thanks again.
BTW, how did you find these drivers? They work for you, no problems? Too bad Asus doesn't keep up with nVidia reference ones, they're always a few (quite) versions behind.
Again, thanx for your time.

Manuel Gomes · 03-06-2003, 07:06 PM

I'm looking at the asusnv9x.inf right now again (it should be asusnv2k.inf or asusnvxp.inf for other OSes - w2k/xp) and I guess if we remove the NV.Copy.Hlp.Localized and NV.Copy.TeakFiles.Localized strings (in the beginning of the file) and fields (in the end of the file) it could work also. Maybe I'll have to download a stripped file (from Guru3d or something, that have English only versions for size sake) and compare the infs to see if this was what they did.
Too bad Asus has no 43,00 version yet, people say they're the best yet.

Frenjon · 03-07-2003, 05:52 AM

Hey again Manuel Gomes

I just grabbed the "Win2KXP3140H.exe" from the asus homepage to help you out.. I'm using another brand Geforce 2 MX card ATM - Until the 9800pro comes out

I'm using the 41.09 from nVIDIA - with - yes danish text - it doesn't bother me that much - I'm not tweaking with it that much.. I was more annoyed with the nVIDIA SoundStorm text in the mixer.. Which now is english

These are the drivers I got... Looks like it's an older version yes...
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...n2KXP3140H.exe

But why don't you just use the nVIDIA 41.09 or 43.00 drivers? - What does the Asus drivers offer that makes them better?

jbw · 03-07-2003, 06:11 AM

I doubt there is any difference between the Asus drivers and the Nvidia drivers... apart from the filenames.

Manuel Gomes · 03-07-2003, 12:23 PM

The thing that sets them apart from the reference nVidia drivers is the Asus shell, let's you run the Asus utilities like Asus probe for mobo monitoring (board's status - temps, rpm, voltages...) and Asus SmartDoctor (monitoring your graphics card) and Tweak (oc). Apart from that, they're the same I guess, only in much earlier versions :-(
I guess I can always install the Asus drivers and then do an update with the nVidia ones to mantain the Asus dlls and stuff.

02-24-2003, 06:33 PM	#1
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	nVidia drivers I already asked this here before but no replies. Let's see if I get lucky this time. How can we modify, this was already explained in the past but can't find it, nVidia based drivers (Asus' version in my case) so that it will install in English only, not in the language of the currently set locale. I have the English version of Windows but my regional settings are Portuguese, so the drivers install in Portuguese instead of English. How can I change this?
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02-28-2003, 11:20 AM	#2
spookyload IN-n-Out Expert Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Probably stuck in Iraq! Posts: 2,935	I would say change your regional settings back to english, then install the driver, restart and set your regional settings back to portugese.
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02-28-2003, 02:28 PM	#3
Frenjon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	What text are you annoyed about? The nVIDIA tray icon? - the sound setup? - what?
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02-28-2003, 04:38 PM	#4
Baud Member LOL Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 940	I believe he's talking about the nVidia features you get in display properties. Mine are in dutch, because it's the local language setting, but my WinXP version is english, and I understand he wants to have it all in english. Spookyload idea looks fine, and is worth trying
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03-05-2003, 05:10 PM	#5
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	locale It's a no go, I've tried that long ago - that would have been easy. It switches back to Portuguese. All the files (help, dll) are installed, and they must be selected at startup or something, it detects the changes. I guess I'll have to dwell some more and with more attention to the inf files and all and check out if there's an auto option for the install that you can select manual override to English or something. There are I believe stripped down versions of the drivers with only English installation (for file size sake mostly I believe) but not all versions. Correct, it's the display properties that get all messed up, strings are not of the same size and get cut, bad translations, incomplete sentences, some strings are not translated yet, you name it! And it's a mess having both languages mixed up. Let me know if you can do it. By the way, I'm using 98SE maybe it's different for XP. Why can't nVidia let us decide what language to use like everyone else (it's starting to look like Intel, forcing the way things should go), ask during install?
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03-06-2003, 09:40 AM	#6
Frenjon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	Manuel Gomes - I know this isn't you excact problem - but it could get you an idea of what to do... I posted this on another board about a week ago... A followup to the Tray program... The files SSTraXX.dll and SStrmXX.dll (Where XX is the language) are located in the WinNT/System32 folder - all in all there are 26 languages... If you delete the 26*2 dll files you save 44,6 MB! - and the tray program just uses the default language english Great to finally get rid of the lame danish translations that the program decided to install on itself.. (I haven't tested it with "startup" - but the proggie works fine with manual startup of sstray.exe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Works fine when booting - there are also 26 SSCplXX.dll files - now a total of 45,5 mb saved I thing that just comes to mind - when installing detonator drivers - just extract the files from the .exe (I asume you are using the .exe-file drivers from nVIDIA) Then delete all the language files except english.. - I'm almost certain this will work
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03-06-2003, 10:16 AM	#7
Frenjon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	Followup Manuel Gomes.... I went ahead and downloaded Win2KXP3140H.exe (graphics drivers for asus nvidia based graphic cards..) There are alot of these files... nvcpXX.hlp nvwcpXX.hlp nvwrsXX.dll nvrsXX.dll So - of course XX is the language - try deleting every one of these files except: nvrseng.dll nvwrseng.dll nvcpeng.hlp nvwcpeng.hlp Note there are 15 other .dll files you shouldn't delete... Then just go ahead and reinstall the driver... First remember to uninstall the current drivers... - this SHOULD work
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03-06-2003, 10:16 AM	#8
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	drivers That is the idea, yes. I'm not sure if I tried that already (my experiments were long ago now) but I'll give it another try, hope I don't get any lockups for files missing, but it seems the right way to do it. I believe what I did was delete the files prior to installing and it would complain about missing files, not deleting after installation. I'll try that. Thanx. My issue is exactly the sometimes silly and incorrect tranlations that we're forced to use since the install program never asks what language you wish to use. Thanx again.
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03-06-2003, 01:44 PM	#9
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	drivers Hi Frenjon That was quick, thanks. I had those already dowloaded as well, I'll remove the other languages (arrghh) files tonight and if I have the time install the drivers from scratch. Hope this works. Thanks again. BTW, how did you find these drivers? They work for you, no problems? Too bad Asus doesn't keep up with nVidia reference ones, they're always a few (quite) versions behind. Again, thanx for your time.
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03-06-2003, 07:06 PM	#10
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	drivers I'm looking at the asusnv9x.inf right now again (it should be asusnv2k.inf or asusnvxp.inf for other OSes - w2k/xp) and I guess if we remove the NV.Copy.Hlp.Localized and NV.Copy.TeakFiles.Localized strings (in the beginning of the file) and fields (in the end of the file) it could work also. Maybe I'll have to download a stripped file (from Guru3d or something, that have English only versions for size sake) and compare the infs to see if this was what they did. Too bad Asus has no 43,00 version yet, people say they're the best yet.
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03-07-2003, 05:52 AM	#11
Frenjon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 27	Hey again Manuel Gomes I just grabbed the "Win2KXP3140H.exe" from the asus homepage to help you out.. I'm using another brand Geforce 2 MX card ATM - Until the 9800pro comes out I'm using the 41.09 from nVIDIA - with - yes danish text - it doesn't bother me that much - I'm not tweaking with it that much.. I was more annoyed with the nVIDIA SoundStorm text in the mixer.. Which now is english These are the drivers I got... Looks like it's an older version yes... http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...n2KXP3140H.exe But why don't you just use the nVIDIA 41.09 or 43.00 drivers? - What does the Asus drivers offer that makes them better?
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03-07-2003, 06:11 AM	#12
jbw Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 16	I doubt there is any difference between the Asus drivers and the Nvidia drivers... apart from the filenames.
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03-07-2003, 12:23 PM	#13
Manuel Gomes Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Aveiro, Portugal Posts: 256	Asus drivers The thing that sets them apart from the reference nVidia drivers is the Asus shell, let's you run the Asus utilities like Asus probe for mobo monitoring (board's status - temps, rpm, voltages...) and Asus SmartDoctor (monitoring your graphics card) and Tweak (oc). Apart from that, they're the same I guess, only in much earlier versions :-( I guess I can always install the Asus drivers and then do an update with the nVidia ones to mantain the Asus dlls and stuff.
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