PCI Express or AGP

[HiJon89]

I am going to build a new system and I was just wondering if you guys thought I should go with an ASUS P4C800-E and an AGP X800 XT or an ASUS P5AD2 PREMIUM and X800 XT PCI Express? I'm also wondering if you think PCI Express and DDR2 will become the new standards and eliminate DDR1 and AGP or are they just hype?

[Zemus]

what ive heard its more or less just hype. You cant tell the difference if you have a 4x agp board and have an 8x agp card and basically the same for PCI express.

This is of course info I just know from watching the screen savers on techtv. is it true? im sure people here can tell you but from what I gather its still going to be a long time before the general standard changes.

[HiJon89]

Originally Posted by Zemus

what ive heard its more or less just hype.

I was thinking that too and I was almost sure about going AGP based but today there was an old episode of the Screen Savers on from spring and they said if you were building a new computer definitely go with PCI Express and ATI seems to be focusing on PCI Express now also, I guess now isn't the best time to be building a new system.

[Zemus]

I wouldn't worry about it at all. Even if it took off it would still be a couple years before its mainstream and by that time youll probably change your Motherboard anyway.

Take me for Example.

I have an old ASUS P4PE-L motherboard that is 4x agp

in 2 weeks im going to Upgrade my video card to a BFG geforce 6800 GT OC 8x AGP card. Do I care that I dont have 8x AGP? Nope cause I know 8X agp is all hype and i wont notice a difference.

[HiJon89]

Originally Posted by Zemus

Do I care that I dont have 8x AGP? Nope cause I know 8X agp is all hype and i wont notice a difference.

I don't know if I would go that far, and you probably would notice a difference but I'm still kinda worried about investing so much money in a computer that might become outdated in 6 months.

[Zemus]

It depends on what you buy. If you buy a good video card like that and have 1GB of ram youll be fine for 2 years before an upgrade.

Unless your a ***** technology doesn't get outdated that fast. THAT is Overated.

Truth be told my Geforce 4 ti4600 is still fantastic. I just want to see DX9 and new stuff.

[HiJon89]

Alright thanks, I'm going with the X800 XT which I can't find in PCI Express right now and 2x512 OCZ PC-3500EB

[Zemus]

very nice

[Gaspar]

It is not hype, its been known for a while now that this is where things are headed. Id recommend getting the latest and Stuff. Albeit performanc eis on par right now but give it some time. Theres a lot more room for advancement in the PCIe and such

[HiJon89]

I'm gonna hold off for a month or two, PCI Express is still to new of a technology and I haven't seen it beat AGP yet, but I'll reevaluate in a month. But here's an interesting article, its from 1998 about AGP vs. PCI cards:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/19980702/
Sounds like what people are saying about PCI Express, I just don't wanna feel as stupid two years from now as this guy must feel.

[Lo0seR]

I remember that article and what Tom was getting at was Intel was trying to get into the graphics market at that time, they wanted to compete with 3DFX and company. Now if memory serves me right he was ripping on Intel for there lame attempt at getting into the graphic market and for the life of me I cannot remember who developed the chips for them. But I do remember all the hype that Intel was throwing around about there new card and it turned out to be somewhat of a flop.
Can anyone remember who developed that graphics chip for Intel at that time?

[3 of 7]

Originally Posted by HiJon89

I'm gonna hold off for a month or two, PCI Express is still to new of a technology and I haven't seen it beat AGP yet, but I'll reevaluate in a month. But here's an interesting article, its from 1998 about AGP vs. PCI cards:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/19980702/
Sounds like what people are saying about PCI Express, I just don't wanna feel as stupid two years from now as this guy must feel.

You can hold off for a month or two and spend a whack of money on something that may or may not catch on....for all we know at this time it just may be hype to get us all to jump off the agp bandwagon....
we have 4 boxes in the house... 2 with 8X agp and 2 with 8X agp cards in 4X mobos.... they all look the same when we game on em....who cares what fps they get as long as they work well and smooth......
for my money, i'd stick with agp and spend all the extra dough on a kick butt monitor

[HiJon89]

Originally Posted by 3 of 7

You can hold off for a month or two and spend a whack of money on something that may or may not catch on....for all we know at this time it just may be hype to get us all to jump off the agp bandwagon....

Its hard to dismiss it as just "hype"
http://www.ati.com/products/pciexpre...ght/index.html

Originally Posted by ATI

The year of 2004 will mark the most significant update to the PC architecture of the past decade.

[PCBruiser]

I think this will get more attention if it is moved to the Graphics Forum, since it is primarily a graphics discussion. I will more it for you but if you want it back to the original Forum, just post here and I'll reverse it for you.

[3 of 7]

Originally Posted by HiJon89

Its hard to dismiss it as just "hype"
http://www.ati.com/products/pciexpre...ght/index.html

With the mainstream upgrade frequency slowing, I can't see too many developers writing code that isn't backwards compatible at this time.... until our agp cards won't run all the new games and apps, Joe average isn't going to have much incentive to throw out his year or 2 old mobo and cards.