ASUS P6T Deluxe (x58/ ICH10R)

[chuckbam]

The intel specs only have the 130W. This is from an older post.

Originally Posted by fvbounty

Here's the temps!

[CrowdAds]

[johnrr6]

I've got all those "Green" features shut off----speedstep, C1E et. all

That probably makes a difference at idle speeds as well...

My bet----if I crank up those two 120s on theVigoor....

Maybe make a little more noise....

My idle temp will drop considerably.....

And from what I can gather-----even up to 80C under load----for extended time-----is OK with a 920

Will let you guys know.

Have either of you guys set up and played with the Linux front end------ExpressGate??? I've read some nice thigs about it.....

[johnrr6]

Running the Vigoor at 2000 RPMs vice 900 RPMs had zero effect......

My CPU temp stays at 51-52 C----same as the System Temp

And Fan Xpert seems to think this is totally fine and in "Intelligent" mode-----only runs the fans at about 40% of capacity

Strange.....

I wonder if all the green power saving stuff makes a big difference in temps....

[johnrr6]

And here's another oddity......

coreTemp is reporting the cores at 37-38C

About a 15-16C difference from AiSuite

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by johnrr6

And here's another oddity......

coreTemp is reporting the cores at 37-38C

About a 15-16C difference from AiSuite

I don't know if this will help you. Because I needed to give the CPU some load it get it to jump from 12x to 20x.

This is the power management engaged 12x 180 ~0% load



Now I ,moved it up by loading Prime95 20x 180 ~ 100% load

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by johnrr6

And here's another oddity......

coreTemp is reporting the cores at 37-38C

About a 15-16C difference from AiSuite

The core temp is always greater than the CPU temp. Intel states that the CPU temp is measured on the center of the die. I would go with the AI Suite as an accurate as you are going to get for CPU temp.

Why don't you use power management?

[chuckbam]

I turned off PM and at 3.6 GHz (20x 180), I am 43C at 0 load.

[johnrr6]

Originally Posted by chuckbam

The core temp is always greater than the CPU temp. Intel states that the CPU temp is measured on the center of the die. I would go with the AI Suite as an accurate as you are going to get for CPU temp.

Why don't you use power management?

I will start to enable the power management stuff on the CPU now that I think I'm pretty darn stable----just haven't got around to it.....

What are you seeing in AIsuite for your temps at Idle???

And----I'm confused by your first line above----as my core temp is 15C LOWER than the CPU temp reported in AI Suite

[johnrr6]

Originally Posted by chuckbam

I turned off PM and at 3.6 GHz (20x 180), I am 43C at 0 load.

OK---If that is your AI Suite Temp-----then I am getting closer

----Only an 8C difference from mine

And you probably have better ventilation/cooling

and you are using less vcore

And you have all the power save stuff on.....

Starting to make sense.......

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by johnrr6

I will start to enable the power management stuff on the CPU now that I think I'm pretty darn stable----just haven't got around to it.....

What are you seeing in AIsuite for your temps at Idle???

And----I'm confused by your first line above----as my core temp is 15C LOWER than the CPU temp reported in AI Suite

Oh, your core temp is lower... odd

I would check it out real good and if things don't cool down, I would re-seat that cooler with some new compound. I was just reading about the Vigor Monsoon. I would think your temps should be like what I have with that cooler

What are you seeing in AIsuite for your temps at Idle??? 43C without PM.

You should go directly into the bios and do a check there.

[shaihulud]

It is strange to have the control, it seems. But I think it can make since for some overclocker. This is something though beyond the BIOS. With Vista it will default to balance, and what the power management setting should be for this chip, this OS, and the higher C states when enabled. Now, there is one setting two really if you dont like latency, to change within the power management advance settings.

LSPM (Link State Power Management/http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/pci/aspm.mspx ) is a feature of PCIe and will power down links not in use. However this can cause some latency. You may notice this when scrolling or doing something as it enables the states and information traverses down the path again. If you do not like this, and I find it not to reduce heat much just power, change this setting. The other latency increaser and the second setting I found is hard drives. Change to your liking, of course. It is not as big a deal as ASPM.

The balance setting is important though because if you increase the settings to a high minimal envelope you will not be using turbo mode as much or any, and also you will not be saving any power or reducing any thermal output.

What I found odd about Core Temp is that it does not calculate the clock correctly all the time. Compared to CPUz. But it does calculates the temp well enough. I never use AI suite and do not use it for any power management. I let Windows and myself manage all of that.

[johnrr6]

Does Q-Fan in the BIOS interact with Fan Xpert in AISuite?

Or are they completely different animals----independent of one another...

And how does the PWM CPU fan settings work with either the BIOS or FanXpert?????

Questions----questions....

I really don't think the CPU is seated wrong as it would be almost impossible to do with the bolt-thru Vigoor-------but I'll check-----and I did use a nice thin layer of AS5 carefully applied with a razor blade....

I think the next step after thaqt is to enable all the PM features and see what that does to the temps......

One of the features I used to love in Abit boards was uGuru

The BIOS and uGuru were tied to each other----adjust one----and you adjusted the other....

And their whole fanspeed control platform worked VERY well-----you could tune it to run any way you wanted and worked well with integrating the automatic CPU Fan feature of 4 pin PWM fans as well..

[johnrr6]

Checked cooler and it is seated firmly----VERY firmly----just like it should....

I'll pull it and reseat it as a last resort as it's a pain with this bolt-thru model.

But---I'm getting somewhere....

I left Q-Fan enabled on "Standard" Profile both in BIOS and in Fan Xpert

And enabled all the PM stuff like SpeedStep and C1E in the BIOS----(if it's a PM feature it is ENABLED in BIOS)

And I set the Vista Windows Power Management Scheme to "Balanced" (changed from Performance)

Oddly enough while Aisuite shows the CPU throttled down and at 12x Multi----CPU Z does not

And lookee here----I got an immediate drop in AiSuite to 47C----and my Core Temp now shows 32-33C

BIOS temps in the Hardware Manager page show 46C.

Am going to eliminate Q-Fan in my next experiment----see if that does anything.....

If I can get within a couple of degrees of your AiSuite Temp----I will call it a day as I AM pumping more voltage to my CPU than you to keep it stable at my 3.6 overclock......

A couple of degrees difference can be accounted for with differences in case, cooler----voltage----etc. and I'll stop worrying about this......

[johnrr6]

Idle temps now 45C in AI Suite and 31C in Core Temp

Strangely enough My Prime 95 Stress testing goes better with LOWER CPU voltage----so that has the added benefit of bringing Temps down a bit as well.

The 1600 speed Muskin has passed every mem test I can throw at it at Cas 7----1T with the recommended 1.64 VRAM

I have all power saving features on and am using the "Balanced" profile in Windows.....

Q-Fan Disabled-----and it IS linked to FanXpert as that disables FanXpert as well.

One thing I noticed that with the new 1102 BIOS----the Intel Turbo setting and Intel SpeedStep setting have disappeared in the first page of AI Tweak----at least they aren't there when you have "Manual" mode enabled on AI Tweak

The CPU shows it is "speedstepping" in AI suite----but not in CPU-Z....

Those temps are pretty close to yours so I think I'm kinda "in the ballpark"

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by johnrr6

Idle temps now 45C in AI Suite and 31C in Core Temp

Strangely enough My Prime 95 Stress testing goes better with LOWER CPU voltage----so that has the added benefit of bringing Temps down a bit as well.

The 1600 speed Muskin has passed every mem test I can throw at it at Cas 7----1T with the recommended 1.64 VRAM

I have all power saving features on and am using the "Balanced" profile in Windows.....

Q-Fan Disabled-----and it IS linked to FanXpert as that disables FanXpert as well.

One thing I noticed that with the new 1102 BIOS----the Intel Turbo setting and Intel SpeedStep setting have disappeared in the first page of AI Tweak----at least they aren't there when you have "Manual" mode enabled on AI Tweak

The CPU shows it is "speedstepping" in AI suite----but not in CPU-Z....

Those temps are pretty close to yours so I think I'm kinda "in the ballpark"

Happy to hear it. I don't know why your core temps is lower than your CPU Temp. That can't be right. I would trust the Asus utility and dump Coretemp. Have you ever looked at HWMonitor (from CPU-z site)?

I don't use Asus tweaking tools, Just the bios, then setup my Vista power plan. Did you try the first C-State setting?