ASUS P6T Deluxe (x58/ ICH10R)

[Sir Skully]

You're welcome, I have lapped cpu's. But don't anymore.

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by chuckbam

Hay johnrr6,
I see you are on the news team. Do you think you can get someone to move this thread under Motherboards? It is under Processor. I could not find it for a while w/o a search.

" ASUS P6T Deluxe" is a mainboard not a CPU

bump

[Tamco]

Please be aware EWCJR that lapping your CPU will void any Intel warranty that you have. If your IHS on your CPU is fairly flat I wouldn,t try it unless you can afford to take the risk of screwing up the CPU. I have never damaged one yet , but it does happen from time to time.
As for watercooling you can't beat building your own setup to suit your case. It just takes a little time measuring what you need & sourcing the components from watercooling specialists.
If you do go down the watercooling route , try to get the best pump,radiator,waterblock & 1/2" tubing for maximum performance.
Once you go watercooling you never go back to air,and if you buy a universal mounted waterblock you can usually use it with many future upgrades to different socketed motherboards also.

Hope this helps you in making the right descision.

[EWCJR]

Thanks for the info Tamco. I was rereading the previous post and realized I completely misunderstood what you and Sir Skully was saying. You two was talking about the heat spreader on the CPU as that is what you two posted but in my mind I read the CPU cooler ( as in my Zalman cooler) I did not check the trueness of my CPU heat spreader, just my Zalman. I will check my CPU heatspreader this weekend to see how good it is but my Zalman is terrible. All 4 corners of the Zalman are higher than the rest of the surface. For now I am going to try a inexpensive self contained water cooler ( corsair H50 ) for now I think and start planning on a custom water system for the near future. It seems with the I7 920 when over clocking, its not how fast can it go before it's unstable but how fast can it go before it gets to hot. As I start my parts list for a water system, I will look in the appropriate forum section and ask any question there. Thanks again.

[XJ.]

Well, you could just lap the Zalman for now, save a few buck by not buying the corsair and then start collecting parts for your H2O project (there's some really excellent H20 gear available now a days!).

[EWCJR]

Originally Posted by Tamco

Hi Guy's ,

Have the same motherboard , but did have a few issues with OCZ 2000mhz Gold series ram which this board didn't like even with the smallest of OC. Switched to Corsair XMS3 1600 c7 modules with no problems.
The big issue was heat like sir skully mentions. My watercooling was still having trouble cooling the CPU @ anything over 4.2ghz 1.35v.The IHS on the 920 was very uneven, so i decided to lap it flat. This did help by about 10 degrees c & never rises above 70c on load.Iv'e now backed it down to 4.0ghz 20 x 200blk @1.25v for 24/7 use & lower temps. Water is vital to cool these CPU's even with a small overclock if you don't want your room to turn into a sauna.
Never used air for CPU cooling for over 10 years ,so can't comment on the core i7 on air.

Not been on the forum for a while sir skully , but nice to hear from you again.

Cheers

I just wanted to let you know I looked into the Corsair XMS3 1600 Cas7 ram and really liked what I found. A lot of people are getting great overclocks and on lower voltages than I am running. So I ordered it and so far I am loving this ram. Right now I have it at 7,7,7,20 1T and this is at 1.6V. I have the blck frequency at 175 to achieve 3.5GHZ. I have the Vcore at 1.25V and the QPI at 1.25V and I haven't even tried lower volts yet and I am stable for 2hours on prime 95. I could not get prime95 to run for 5 minutes at these volts with my OCZ ram. I will try it overnight on prime 95 this weekend when I have more time as right now I have to go back to work to pay for this stuff, LOL. I have ordered 4 120mm fans to place in my case to go along with the corsair H50 water cooler that I have not installed yet. I am going to use a push pull on my radiator as I am going to blow the air out of the case not into the case like Corsair wants me to.
I am going to lap the Zalman cooler I have and just keep it as a backup incase I need it and it will give me some practice on lapping, LOL. I am going to use the Corsair H50 only temporarily until I research and build a custom rig later this winter.
My case will have 1X 230mm filtered intake fan, 3X 120mm filtered intake fans, 2X 230mm exhaust fans at the top of my case and the 2X 120mm exhaust fans on my radiator at the back of my case. 1 of the 120mm intake fans will be blowing in from my side case onto my chipset and ram and one right on my video cards.
This build has required so much more effort to get right than any of my previous builds but so far it is more satisfying too.

[chuckbam]

[Sir Skully]

Originally Posted by EWCJR

I just wanted to let you know I looked into the Corsair XMS3 1600 Cas7 ram and really liked what I found. A lot of people are getting great overclocks and on lower voltages than I am running. So I ordered it and so far I am loving this ram. Right now I have it at 7,7,7,20 1T and this is at 1.6V. I have the blck frequency at 175 to achieve 3.5GHZ. I have the Vcore at 1.25V and the QPI at 1.25V and I haven't even tried lower volts yet and I am stable for 2hours on prime 95. I could not get prime95 to run for 5 minutes at these volts with my OCZ ram. I will try it overnight on prime 95 this weekend when I have more time as right now I have to go back to work to pay for this stuff, LOL. I have ordered 4 120mm fans to place in my case to go along with the corsair H50 water cooler that I have not installed yet. I am going to use a push pull on my radiator as I am going to blow the air out of the case not into the case like Corsair wants me to.
I am going to lap the Zalman cooler I have and just keep it as a backup incase I need it and it will give me some practice on lapping, LOL. I am going to use the Corsair H50 only temporarily until I research and build a custom rig later this winter.
My case will have 1X 230mm filtered intake fan, 3X 120mm filtered intake fans, 2X 230mm exhaust fans at the top of my case and the 2X 120mm exhaust fans on my radiator at the back of my case. 1 of the 120mm intake fans will be blowing in from my side case onto my chipset and ram and one right on my video cards.
This build has required so much more effort to get right than any of my previous builds but so far it is more satisfying too.

Sounds Like your having fun....
For me the fun is the process, learning, building, ocing.
You have some great parts, and they will oc even better went ya get a
really nice water cooling system.
I like Corsair its a good brand..
I'm running 12gig Mushkin Red @ default speed 6-7-6-18.
It will oc to 5-5-5-18 @ 1600....
It will also run @ 1800 and 2000 but with higher timings.
Here's a link to my oc'ed Mushkin Red look a post 4th from the bottom..*** rampage ii extreme ***

[EWCJR]

Originally Posted by chuckbam

Since Prime95 hardly gives this platform a real work-out. If you have not, try this one LinX. It runs 5x and will max our systems out.

http://chuckbam.com/Post2/LinX.zip

Just tried this out. Very stressful on the system, made it crawl, LOL. IT even took my temps about 8 degrees higher than Prime95 does with my Zalman cooler. I only let it run 5 times as I gotta go but it passed no problems with my Corsair ram. The temps maxed out at 76,73,72, and 70c on each of the cores and it was using about 5.75GB of my ram, A lot more than Prime does. It finished in 23m and 36s with 0 errors. I can't wait for the weekend to get her to really play with this now.

[chuckbam]

Originally Posted by EWCJR

Just tried this out. Very stressful on the system, made it crawl, LOL. IT even took my temps about 8 degrees higher than Prime95 does with my Zalman cooler. I only let it run 5 times as I gotta go but it passed no problems with my Corsair ram. The temps maxed out at 75,73,72, and 70c on each of the cores. I can't wait for the weekend to get her to really play with this now.

5x is Good enough for that baby. No reason to waist all that electricity. Your temps are in an acceptable range.

[Tamco]

Nice case build EWCJR,
From personal experience I've found that fans "blowing or sucking air from outside the case through the radiator a better idea than from inside out". As usually the room ambient temperature is lower than the case temperature. But i have a twin sided case which is modified with my motherboard isolated from any intake air through the radiator & only supplied with it's own dedicated input output flow. Little differences in ambient temperature will affect all cooling properties , whether it's CPU or MoBo. Another thing is push pull fan configuration can be a pain & can cause air cavitation through the radiator. I've always stuck with single throughput flow because of this. Although I've 14 fans in my case ,they all run @ 5volts as I like my pc really quiet also for multi media work.
You must have a really nice case with big fans to boot, so your half way there.
I've also found that having as much coolant as possible -ie a large reservoir an advantage,because the more coolant you have ,the longer it takes for it to heat up, keeping things cooler.All these things depend on the cases configuration.

Hope my experiences help you out Buddy.

Tamco

[Tamco]

If those temps are with Hyperthreading enabled , they are OKAY.

[Sir Skully]

Originally Posted by Tamco

Nice case build EWCJR,
From personal experience I've found that fans "blowing or sucking air from outside the case through the radiator a better idea than from inside out". As usually the room ambient temperature is lower than the case temperature. But i have a twin sided case which is modified with my motherboard isolated from any intake air through the radiator & only supplied with it's own dedicated input output flow. Little differences in ambient temperature will affect all cooling properties , whether it's CPU or MoBo. Another thing is push pull fan configuration can be a pain & can cause air cavitation through the radiator. I've always stuck with single throughput flow because of this. Although I've 14 fans in my case ,they all run @ 5volts as I like my pc really quiet also for multi media work.
You must have a really nice case with big fans to boot, so your half way there.
I've also found that having as much coolant as possible -ie a large reservoir an advantage,because the more coolant you have ,the longer it takes for it to heat up, keeping things cooler.All these things depend on the cases configuration.

Hope my experiences help you out Buddy.

Tamco

Cavitation means that cavities or bubbles are forming in liquid that's being pumped. I run a triple fan radiator with 3 to a side. 6 fans total in a push/pull, its worked quite well for over 2yrs.
Cavitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Tamco]

Glad you now what it means too Sir Skully - it was a simily, refering to the action you get while trying to froce air through the radiator in a push pull configuration. It does work well "more air throughput". But as i have a totally silent pc,and used to it that way , when I tried the push pull configuration - it was louder.
It wasn't literal.

[EWCJR]

From reviews I have read on the Corsair H50 cooler, if I use just one fan that pushes air through the radiator, I should get decent cooling comparable to the best air coolers, but when you add a second fan to pull it gives about another 5c drop at idle and under load. I am a truckdriver and I am out on the road ( on my BB ) so I can't really post a link to the review, but it may of been at legitreview. I will experiment with fan direction as that will be really easy to switch once I have it installed.
Thanks Skully for looking up that word as saved me the trouble, LOL.
I am still amazed at the difference in changing my ram as I am sure I can either drop my voltages even more or go for higher clock speeds at my current voltages.
Yes I have hyperthreading enabled. I have only disabled speedstep and turbo mode in bios. I am running at 20X multiplier. If I upped that to 21, Would all 4 cores run at 21 or just core 0? I do have the DO stepping. I have read conflicting stories on this.