Official Conroe information thread - Page 15

Eldonko · 05-25-2006, 04:22 PM

Insanity, 12 sec mark broken and the chips/mbs arent even avail.

**Sandog** · 05-25-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Wow the loyalty heh. I go with the fastest hardware out at the time, I could care less who makes it. It's all about performance.

Everybody wants to buy the fastest hardware but remember the tortoise and the hare. Being fast is a small piece of the pie and consider that the difference between Intel and AMD gaming computers is negligible in speed (15% maybe) and that you only really need speed during games. A lot of users care about dependability and want zero hassles. Intel uses excellent quality in the design and testing of their products and by having combined chipsets and CPU's designed for one another you end up getting the best hardware available. Intel also supports their products better than any company I know. Intel even has a hardware store online but nobody knows about it cause they never need to buy replacements. I've been loyal to Intel for a long time and they have never disappointed me. As an engineer who designs boards I have a lot of respect for Intels achievements and the way they run the company. AMD doesn't even touch Intel in so many categories that it isn't even funny and if hardware sites graded computers on all categories and not just speed I think Intel would win every time.

PS. Your picture is too big.

Eldonko · 05-25-2006, 11:09 PM

Everyone builds loyalty to products/ brands they like and have used alot; I have similar ideas for AMD since the last 10+ CPU and MB I owned were AMD and were great. However when you are a bencher nothing is more important than speed.

Its actually coolaler's pic not mine, I just linked it so resizing is not an option, ill remove it.

**Sandog** · 05-25-2006, 11:29 PM

Thats cool with me you are a loyal AMD'r. It read to me like you were digging at me being loyal to Intel. I spout off about Intel all the time because I am trying to convince people to get the best hardware. I know for a fact that Intel is the best computer hardware manufacturer out there.

You don't have to remove the pic, I just wanted to make you aware you try to fit pics to no greater than 1024 so people don't have to scroll to read the whole thread page.

Eldonko · 05-26-2006, 02:17 AM

Naw man I'm not like that, hey if you like Intel great, I'm not going to say you are wrong whatsoever esp in an Intel thread. My point was more towards the fact that I dont really have brand loyalty personally. Benchers cant have loyalties like that or they will be left in the dust. If I have to switch platforms to gain a few seconds in PI, I'm in heh.

One thing I can't handle anymore of though is Intel vs AMD agruments, thats all people post these days. XS is getting so rediclous you cant even post 1 thing about about conroe or am2 without 10 people piping in thread crapping.

AMD is what I know currently and since I'll be on board soon enough, I'll be hanging out asking questions until I get good w/ the stuff.

No worries about the pic, I always crop mine, that was just showing the new PI WR.

**Sandog** · 05-26-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldonko

Naw man I'm not like that, hey if you like Intel great, I'm not going to say you are wrong whatsoever esp in an Intel thread. My point was more towards the fact that I dont really have brand loyalty personally. Benchers cant have loyalties like that or they will be left in the dust. If I have to switch platforms to gain a few seconds in PI, I'm in heh.

One thing I can't handle anymore of though is Intel vs AMD agruments, thats all people post these days. XS is getting so rediclous you cant even post 1 thing about about conroe or am2 without 10 people piping in thread crapping.

AMD is what I know currently and since I'll be on board soon enough, I'll be hanging out asking questions until I get good w/ the stuff.

No worries about the pic, I always crop mine, that was just showing the new PI WR.

That won't happen here at ABXZone, we won't allow it. I am not use to nor has it happened yet that Intel has regained the performance crown. Once that happens though there is no point in kicking AMD around. Fortunately AMD has and will continue to have great chips. They will also still hold some of the best OC chipsets which is what a lot of enthusiasts desire.

**specmike** · 05-26-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

That won't happen here at ABXZone, we won't allow it. I am not use to nor has it happened yet that Intel has regained the performance crown. Once that happens though there is no point in kicking AMD around. Fortunately AMD has and will continue to have great chips. They will also still hold some of the best OC chipsets which is what a lot of enthusiasts desire.

The incredible improvement of AMD over the past few years is very likely what got Intel off their duffs to start making respectable CPUs again. My loyalty lies with what makes me money and in the past that has been Intel for video work. But, my current gamer is an AMD/SLI rig. And, this competition is good for the consumer. Without both companies, current enthusiast computing would suck.

Mike.

Eldonko · 05-26-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by specmike

competition is good for the consumer. Without both companies, current enthusiast computing would suck.

Yep thats for sure.

**Sandog** · 05-26-2006, 01:37 PM

All very true. It is not easy to make a great comeback like Intel appears to have done and now the ball should be in AMD's court. You have to think to though that it is the seperate AMD and Intel camps (plus the INQ.) that fuels Intels desire to beat AMD. If there weren't Intel fanboys like me then there probably wouldn't have been any EE chips or D975XBXLKR BAD AXE Crossfire board.

**Sandog** · 05-26-2006, 03:31 PM

I'm already looking around the house at what I can sell to gather up money for the Conroe EE.

TQ won't laugh at this but I may sell a gun I'm not using. Maybe I can work out a deal with TQ who would rather buy a gun than an EE chip

That engagement ring could have got me 9 EE chips but it was worth the investment.

**Sandog** · 05-26-2006, 03:43 PM

Quoted from the Inquirer

"Intel will sell the 5160 Woodcrest, a 3GHz, 1333MHz part for $850"

Wouldn't this be nice to have? Intel should have a server board soon for this chip and probably a dual-socket one also. How stable and fast do you think a system like this would be especially with ECC memory? As long as it has a PCIx8 or x16 video card slot I wouldn't mind having this. At least 8GB of memory capacity I imagine and if it has a pair of socks you could drop in another Woody later. Mmmm, I'm getting hungry.

**Sandog** · 05-26-2006, 05:09 PM

C2E X6800 2.93 1066 4M LGA-775 $999

This buds for me.

Man it's ridiculous how many custom and copied Core2 avatars there are over at Extreme Systems and their all waiting for Conroe. You'd think they would wait until the chip arrives before using Intels new logo's.

pointreyes · 05-26-2006, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandog

Quoted from the Inquirer

"Intel will sell the 5160 Woodcrest, a 3GHz, 1333MHz part for $850"

Wouldn't this be nice to have? Intel should have a server board soon for this chip and probably a dual-socket one also. How stable and fast do you think a system like this would be especially with ECC memory? As long as it has a PCIx8 or x16 video card slot I wouldn't mind having this. At least 8GB of memory capacity I imagine and if it has a pair of socks you could drop in another Woody later. Mmmm, I'm getting hungry.

Even though my dual Xeon system is over two years old, I'm not willing to part with it. It even has 8x AGP which for an old system is nice. The system has been unbelievably stable and is on 24/7 (or close to that considering I turn it off during bad storms and vacations). One thing I have to note with Xeon is that Intel is focused on the business consumer using these procs in a server room and hence the fans are LOUD! I promptly replaced the jet fans on my Xeon (Prestonia) with much quieter fans. I'm not sure if Intel is still supplying fans that can make a server case vibrate (seriously, my $200 Supermicro server case vibrated with those fans!) but I sure hope they are not. My dual Xeon with 5 hard drives is quieter than my NLE machine.

h20-ski · 05-26-2006, 09:10 PM

I here on that Pointreyes. Although one question I do have is Woodcrest going to require a new chipset from that of Dempsey? Not that I am looking to buy anytime soon seeing as the only retail S771 board I can find is around $700.

DutchBBQ · 05-27-2006, 02:32 AM

Found a comprehensive list, revealing all of Intels' forthcoming CORE2 processors incl. CONROE, Merom etc. codenames:
http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c2.php

05-25-2006, 04:22 PM	#211
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05-25-2006, 11:09 PM	#213
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Everyone builds loyalty to products/ brands they like and have used alot; I have similar ideas for AMD since the last 10+ CPU and MB I owned were AMD and were great. However when you are a bencher nothing is more important than speed. Its actually coolaler's pic not mine, I just linked it so resizing is not an option, ill remove it. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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05-25-2006, 11:29 PM	#214
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Thats cool with me you are a loyal AMD'r. It read to me like you were digging at me being loyal to Intel. I spout off about Intel all the time because I am trying to convince people to get the best hardware. I know for a fact that Intel is the best computer hardware manufacturer out there. You don't have to remove the pic, I just wanted to make you aware you try to fit pics to no greater than 1024 so people don't have to scroll to read the whole thread page.
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05-26-2006, 02:17 AM	#215
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Naw man I'm not like that, hey if you like Intel great, I'm not going to say you are wrong whatsoever esp in an Intel thread. My point was more towards the fact that I dont really have brand loyalty personally. Benchers cant have loyalties like that or they will be left in the dust. If I have to switch platforms to gain a few seconds in PI, I'm in heh. One thing I can't handle anymore of though is Intel vs AMD agruments, thats all people post these days. XS is getting so rediclous you cant even post 1 thing about about conroe or am2 without 10 people piping in thread crapping. AMD is what I know currently and since I'll be on board soon enough, I'll be hanging out asking questions until I get good w/ the stuff. No worries about the pic, I always crop mine, that was just showing the new PI WR. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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05-26-2006, 01:37 PM	#219
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	All very true. It is not easy to make a great comeback like Intel appears to have done and now the ball should be in AMD's court. You have to think to though that it is the seperate AMD and Intel camps (plus the INQ.) that fuels Intels desire to beat AMD. If there weren't Intel fanboys like me then there probably wouldn't have been any EE chips or D975XBXLKR BAD AXE Crossfire board.
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05-26-2006, 03:31 PM	#220
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	I'm already looking around the house at what I can sell to gather up money for the Conroe EE. TQ won't laugh at this but I may sell a gun I'm not using. Maybe I can work out a deal with TQ who would rather buy a gun than an EE chip That engagement ring could have got me 9 EE chips but it was worth the investment.
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05-26-2006, 03:43 PM	#221
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	Quoted from the Inquirer "Intel will sell the 5160 Woodcrest, a 3GHz, 1333MHz part for $850" Wouldn't this be nice to have? Intel should have a server board soon for this chip and probably a dual-socket one also. How stable and fast do you think a system like this would be especially with ECC memory? As long as it has a PCIx8 or x16 video card slot I wouldn't mind having this. At least 8GB of memory capacity I imagine and if it has a pair of socks you could drop in another Woody later. Mmmm, I'm getting hungry.
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05-26-2006, 05:09 PM	#222
Sandog Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,688	C2E X6800 2.93 1066 4M LGA-775 $999 This buds for me. Man it's ridiculous how many custom and copied Core2 avatars there are over at Extreme Systems and their all waiting for Conroe. You'd think they would wait until the chip arrives before using Intels new logo's.
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05-26-2006, 09:10 PM	#224
h20-ski Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	I here on that Pointreyes. Although one question I do have is Woodcrest going to require a new chipset from that of Dempsey? Not that I am looking to buy anytime soon seeing as the only retail S771 board I can find is around $700.
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05-27-2006, 02:32 AM	#225
DutchBBQ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256	Found a comprehensive list, revealing all of Intels' forthcoming CORE2 processors incl. CONROE, Merom etc. codenames: http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c2.php
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