Official Conroe information thread

[Intel_User]

I here on that Pointreyes. Although one question I do have is Woodcrest going to require a new chipset from that of Dempsey? Not that I am looking to buy anytime soon seeing as the only retail S771 board I can find is around $700.

No it doesn't. Dempsey is coming only less than a month before Woodcrest. Not only it won't make sense to have a different compatibility, but the chipsets support both 1066 and 1333MHz FSB.

C2E X6800 2.93 1066 4M LGA-775 $999

This buds for me.

Man it's ridiculous how many custom and copied Core2 avatars there are over at Extreme Systems and their all waiting for Conroe. You'd think they would wait until the chip arrives before using Intels new logo's.

Somehow XS got the info about C2E(Core 2 Extreme) right. It DOES look like they are making C2E X6800. Though it looks like its later than the official Core 2 Duo date, which is July 23rd, here's the good news.

It will be 65W.

One thing I can't handle anymore of though is Intel vs AMD agruments, thats all people post these days. XS is getting so rediclous you cant even post 1 thing about about conroe or am2 without 10 people piping in thread crapping.

Yea, its funny to see so many threads being locked lol. We try to be positive about Intel, and keep the AMD talk to another thread.

Insanity, 12 sec mark broken and the chips/mbs arent even avail.

The latest one reached 10.758s i think.

[Intel_User]

Keep in mind the reason the C2E's and Woodcrest's were 80W is because of the FSB. The recent stepping improvements to Woodcrest's put the power down to 65W except the 3GHz part.

Oh, and the pricing roadmaps for Pentium D's in the future looks ridiculously good.

OMG, $69 for a P4P single core!!! Link: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2547

PDP 945
3.4GHz / 800MHz 2x2MB $163 (23-Jul)

PDP 925
3.0GHz / 800MHz 2x2MB $133 (Q4'06)

PDP 915
2.8GHz / 800MHz 2x2MB $133 (23-Jul)

Holy crap.

I read that Celerons are going in ~$50 range.

[pointreyes]

Originally Posted by Intel_User

Oh, and the pricing roadmaps for Pentium D's in the future looks ridiculously good.

OMG, $69 for a P4P single core!!! Link: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2547

PDP 945
3.4GHz / 800MHz 2x2MB $163 (23-Jul)

Holy crap.

Well, you have the 'crap' part correct on that proc. I will take the 950 with VT for $60 more over that proc that does not have that feature. I'm still rather steamed at Intel with the 830 not allowing me to do what I can with my older AMD proc. And VT would be ahead of the still awaiting for AMD Pacifica so I really want the VT, any Intel proc without it for me in this year is sheer trash, junk, and major crap. Yeah, when late July comes, I can finally get rid of this 830 proc.

[Intel_User]

Well, you have the 'crap' part correct on that proc. I will take the 950 with VT for $60 more over that proc that does not have that feature. I'm still rather steamed at Intel with the 830 not allowing me to do what I can with my older AMD proc. And VT would be ahead of the still awaiting for AMD Pacifica so I really want the VT, any Intel proc without it for me in this year is sheer trash, junk, and major crap. Yeah, when late July comes, I can finally get rid of this 830 proc.

Yea. Though you can get 940 for similar price as 945, and slight sacrifice in performance.

Or better yet, go for Core 2 Duo, as most will probably have VT, if not all.

[pointreyes]

Originally Posted by Intel_User

Yea. Though you can get 940 for similar price as 945, and slight sacrifice in performance.

Or better yet, go for Core 2 Duo, as most will probably have VT, if not all.

I'm trapped. I can't spend $250 for a proc and spend another $200+ for the flippin' mobo. I could try to sell the 955 board with the 830 in hopes to get a new board but I positive that due to purchasing the new home that the wife will say 'NO!' to that option. I at least have a store credit of $200 to use up that allows me to at least get the 950 before they become hard to get. It's like the Canterwood days for me - I'm entrenched with the older technology for the next several years. This is the system that needs to handle video encoding and it would be nice to actually use virtualization on it since it has the most RAM than any other system I have.

[Dan-Baer]

With my rig aproaching its 3rd aniversary I believe my last two upgrades were the last (7800GS and up to 2 Gb RAM). When starting the initial planning for a new rig a few months back I was considering AMD for the first time. I have always been an Intel user and now it looks like I will stay that way.
The question is which chip and which MOBO? I want to OC slightly to moderatly but I want stability. I will go with SLI so which Core 2 Duo chip and MOBO? I tend to favor ASUS MBs. I am thinking about waiting until August to see what has been anounced. The budget is not unlimited but I am not going to skimp on the CPU and MOBO.
Suggestions?

[JimTram]

Hold off till Conroe gets seasoned and then a ASUS brand 975 board.

Originally Posted by Dan-Baer

With my rig aproaching its 3rd aniversary I believe my last two upgrades were the last (7800GS and up to 2 Gb RAM). When starting the initial planning for a new rig a few months back I was considering AMD for the first time. I have always been an Intel user and now it looks like I will stay that way.
The question is which chip and which MOBO? I want to OC slightly to moderatly but I want stability. I will go with SLI so which Core 2 Duo chip and MOBO? I tend to favor ASUS MBs. I am thinking about waiting until August to see what has been anounced. The budget is not unlimited but I am not going to skimp on the CPU and MOBO.
Suggestions?

[h20-ski]

Ya right now there is only one Core 2 Duo capable board, and that motherboard is not SLI capable. But from the looks of it the best chips to OC will be the higher end model (higher multipliers) as Conroe seems to be from early testing chipset limited.

[Intel_User]

Ya right now there is only one Core 2 Duo capable board, and that motherboard is not SLI capable. But from the looks of it the best chips to OC will be the higher end model (higher multipliers) as Conroe seems to be from early testing chipset limited.

It is way too early to say that. Lots of things can change until release, especially looking at how things are going by. Funny how different it is now considering nothing changed for Prescott between release and pre-release.

I would say it has to do with a specific board, as Intel's boards have bigger limitations on overclocking than the other boards. You never know, 965 chipset may overclock better than the 975X's as initial testings say 965 chipsets perform better in single card configurations than 975X, maybe it will overclock better too?

[h20-ski]

Well that is based off of ES chips, on a select few motherboards. Right now Yonah and Merom seems to be hitting a FSB wall that few are able to overcome. An with the ES's overclocking easy, with low multipliers some have found some chipset limitations, although this is with early hardware. Come to think of early hardware, LGA 775 release was one. Max FSB overclock was in the 15-20MHz area. And look at it now with 7.4GHz reached that is some high FSB.

[Sandog]

New server board.

"The Intel® Workstation Board S5000XVN provides incredible
performance and memory capacity for demanding workstation
operations."

ftp://download.intel.com/design/serv...n/31188001.pdf

[Intel_User]

New server board.

"The Intel® Workstation Board S5000XVN provides incredible
performance and memory capacity for demanding workstation
operations."

ftp://download.intel.com/design/serv...n/31188001.pdf

I think that is the workstation variant of the Blackford chipset, code-named Greencreek.

Mind you, Core will be FASTER per clock, per FSB clock than Woodcrest because the chipsets on the Core is more higher performing then the one used on Woodcrest. RAM is also higher performance too.

[Prong]

A new Asus board for the Conroe (info courtesy of an Anandtech member):http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l...79&modelmenu=1

[Dan-Baer]

The P5B looks very interesting. The only thing I see that concerns me is that it appears that there are not two PCIe X16 slots. One is X16 and the other is X 4.

[pointreyes]

Originally Posted by Dan-Baer

The P5B looks very interesting. The only thing I see that concerns me is that it appears that there are not two PCIe X16 slots. One is X16 and the other is X 4.

I seen that board last week. I hate it - once again caps, HSF, and other crap in the way of the PCI slots messes it up for people like me that have PCI-X cards. Being the minority on this is making this more commonplace.