Problem with my P4c800-e no startup

jxman · 02-15-2009, 03:50 PM

Hi All,

I have a P4c800-e which has worked for years. Currently it will not boot. Normally I leave this computer on 5 days a week. Last week I came to do some work and found it non-responsive. No signal to the monitor. So, I shut it down and rebooted. Still no signal to the monitor. Also, no post messages at startup. Uh oh, this starting to get serious. I pulled the memory to see if I would get beeps, and I did. Replaced the memory and replaced the video card. Still no change. I swapped out the cpu chip with another and got the same response. I hear the drives spin up, all fans powered up, mobo light comes on, but no signal to the monitor. I tried the monitor with another computer and it works just fine. When I power the unit on, normally I would hear the HD as the was being read, but now I hear nothing of the sort.
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Any ideas??
also swapped out the battery with no change...

Thanks for the help in advance...

**ctal** · 02-15-2009, 04:31 PM

I recall a couple of similar-sounding problems being encountered by others in the past. Initial suspicion focused on the mobo, but it turned out to be the power supply in each case.

Regards,
-- Al

jxman · 02-15-2009, 05:23 PM

That's what I thought except that everything spun up. Unfortunately I don't have a power supply to test the theory with. I'm going to try and borrow one from a friend (if he has one).

PeterT · 02-16-2009, 01:17 PM

Yes, try swapping the PSU. The example Al is referring to was my daughter's P4P800D. And, it was an Antec TP430. New PSU and it's working just fine.

*zapionics<alt>* · 02-17-2009, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

... it was an Antec TP430. ...

True Power 430 watter? Died? But its not very old really... I thought that was a pretty good PS back in the day

Noodles · 02-17-2009, 08:03 PM

This has happened to more than a few of this, and the p4p800 as well..

I've done quite a bit of reading on it, and there seems to be no set "ruling" on what takes the boards out, or get's them back up.

Most seem to be related to the ICH5 chipset (southbridge) going bad. Usually after plugging in, or removing a USB device.

I spent about a week researching this, and it's amazing just how pervasive it really is..

Do yourself a fav. Don't drive yourself nutz trying to salvage it. It's gone.. Either replace with another one, which in itself is an adventure. his board still hold high value on ebay, or upgrade, and be prepared to REALLY shell out for almost EVERYTHING new...

I walked this path when my p4p800e-dlx fried the southbridge on a USB plug in, and came up with all the above info.
It's been replaced by a P4C800 E-dlx that someone I knew had and sold me. Otherwise, I'd be a no PC havin jamoke for awhile..

Tapir · 02-17-2009, 10:40 PM

Had P4c800-e myself. Had the identical problem. Ended up frying southbridge as well. Never got to find out what was the exact problem. However, I strongly suspected the psu. I say his because it did not function properly when I attempted to use it on my new board. As a matter of fact I have three other Asus boards that have the same problem and consider it prudent not to "test" a new psu on them.

mtek · 02-18-2009, 05:53 PM

I would check vid card first if all else is coming up,
another thing to check would be cmos battery, had to change mine three or four years after initial build...similar probs ay the
time, battery is $3-4, CR2032@3V ,then go through bios again.

NBK · 02-18-2009, 07:10 PM

HI

check this out!

http://tw2005.giga-byte.com/Motherbo...AQ/FAQ_456.htm

TjF2 · 02-19-2009, 12:37 AM

Yup that static thing sounds like me

*zapionics<alt>* · 02-19-2009, 07:10 AM

Wasnt this due to the chipset?; I thought Intel released an errata about it... dont quite recall now... I had an 8KNXP board die and it took my Sony Handycam with it (firewire board burned out which made the camera next to useless).

02-15-2009, 03:50 PM	#1
jxman Tobor who ? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mt. Laurel, New Jersey Posts: 327	Problem with my P4c800-e no startup Hi All, I have a P4c800-e which has worked for years. Currently it will not boot. Normally I leave this computer on 5 days a week. Last week I came to do some work and found it non-responsive. No signal to the monitor. So, I shut it down and rebooted. Still no signal to the monitor. Also, no post messages at startup. Uh oh, this starting to get serious. I pulled the memory to see if I would get beeps, and I did. Replaced the memory and replaced the video card. Still no change. I swapped out the cpu chip with another and got the same response. I hear the drives spin up, all fans powered up, mobo light comes on, but no signal to the monitor. I tried the monitor with another computer and it works just fine. When I power the unit on, normally I would hear the HD as the was being read, but now I hear nothing of the sort. . . Any ideas?? also swapped out the battery with no change... Thanks for the help in advance... __________________ Kick Butt, Take names, Keep your head down! __________________ ASUS P4C800-e P4 2.88Ghz 800Mhz FSB @3.0 Corsairs PC-3700LL DDR twinx 512 Seagate Barracuda 80g SATA drive Pioneer DVR-106bk DVD+/-RW ATI Radeon X850 Pro Catalyst 6.14 Power: Antec True 430 Case: Atech Fash; Monitor: ViewSonic 21" G810 Windows 2k sp4: Directx 9.0b
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02-15-2009, 04:31 PM	#2
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,903	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup I recall a couple of similar-sounding problems being encountered by others in the past. Initial suspicion focused on the mobo, but it turned out to be the power supply in each case. Regards, -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States.
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02-15-2009, 05:23 PM	#3
jxman Tobor who ? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mt. Laurel, New Jersey Posts: 327	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup That's what I thought except that everything spun up. Unfortunately I don't have a power supply to test the theory with. I'm going to try and borrow one from a friend (if he has one). __________________ Kick Butt, Take names, Keep your head down! __________________ ASUS P4C800-e P4 2.88Ghz 800Mhz FSB @3.0 Corsairs PC-3700LL DDR twinx 512 Seagate Barracuda 80g SATA drive Pioneer DVR-106bk DVD+/-RW ATI Radeon X850 Pro Catalyst 6.14 Power: Antec True 430 Case: Atech Fash; Monitor: ViewSonic 21" G810 Windows 2k sp4: Directx 9.0b
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02-16-2009, 01:17 PM	#4
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,688	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup Yes, try swapping the PSU. The example Al is referring to was my daughter's P4P800D. And, it was an Antec TP430. New PSU and it's working just fine. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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02-17-2009, 08:03 PM	#6
Noodles Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup This has happened to more than a few of this, and the p4p800 as well.. I've done quite a bit of reading on it, and there seems to be no set "ruling" on what takes the boards out, or get's them back up. Most seem to be related to the ICH5 chipset (southbridge) going bad. Usually after plugging in, or removing a USB device. I spent about a week researching this, and it's amazing just how pervasive it really is.. Do yourself a fav. Don't drive yourself nutz trying to salvage it. It's gone.. Either replace with another one, which in itself is an adventure. his board still hold high value on ebay, or upgrade, and be prepared to REALLY shell out for almost EVERYTHING new... I walked this path when my p4p800e-dlx fried the southbridge on a USB plug in, and came up with all the above info. It's been replaced by a P4C800 E-dlx that someone I knew had and sold me. Otherwise, I'd be a no PC havin jamoke for awhile..
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02-17-2009, 10:40 PM	#7
Tapir Wisdom Will Always Linger Join Date: May 2004 Location: Belize, The Jewel Posts: 3,191	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup Had P4c800-e myself. Had the identical problem. Ended up frying southbridge as well. Never got to find out what was the exact problem. However, I strongly suspected the psu. I say his because it did not function properly when I attempted to use it on my new board. As a matter of fact I have three other Asus boards that have the same problem and consider it prudent not to "test" a new psu on them. __________________ ************************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** Knowledge: Either you have it or know where to get it! ************************************************************************************************ **************************************************************************** You need to have the right question to obtain the right answer. ************************************************************************************************ **************************************************************************** The greatest right any nation can afford its people is the right to be left alone. ************************************************************************************************ **************************************************************************** BIOSTAR - P4M80-M4, P4-2.8E HT, MSI NX6200AX-TD256 DDR, 2X512 PC3200 MICRON DDR 400, HITACHI 80G & SAMSUNG 40G, LITEON 20XDVDR, MOTOROLA SB5100 CABLE MODEM, 56K V92 AGERE FAX MODEM, X TECH OPTICAL MOUSE, AIR COOLED - 5 FANS, JAUNTY JACKALOPE 9.04 ************************************************************************************************ ******************************************************************************
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02-18-2009, 05:53 PM	#8
mtek Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: dog house Posts: 320	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup I would check vid card first if all else is coming up, another thing to check would be cmos battery, had to change mine three or four years after initial build...similar probs ay the time, battery is $3-4, CR2032@3V ,then go through bios again.
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02-18-2009, 07:10 PM	#9
NBK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina USA Posts: 402	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup HI check this out! http://tw2005.giga-byte.com/Motherbo...AQ/FAQ_456.htm __________________ Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz**RAM: G.Skill DDR2-1066 2x2048 Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula rev. 103gBIOS: 1102 Video: eVGA 8800GTS 512MbCase: Lian-Li PC-60PlusII Black Sound: Creative Sound blaster X-FI Fatal1tyPSU: Corsair 750watt HSF: Zalman 9700 LEDHard Drive [OS and Apps]: WD 500Gb Hard Drive [Storage]: WD 750GBHard Drive [Backup]: WD 250Gb Floppy Drive: Sony 1.44Mb*PATA DVD Burner: Benq DVD DD DW 1655 BCIC SATA DVD Burner: Samsung SH-S223Q Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor: ViewSonic VX1932wm 19" OS: Windows XP SP3 MacBook Pro 17" [June 2009] 2.8GHz 500Gb 7200rpmMacOS X 10.6.1 Other Components: APC Back-UPS RS 1500VA Brother HL-5250DN Laser Printer*HP Photosmart C6280 All-in-One**Dlink DIR655
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02-19-2009, 12:37 AM	#10
TjF2 Snuffy Smith Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mid West Posts: 142	Re: Problem with my P4c800-e no startup Yup that static thing sounds like me __________________ Snuffy Smith's-[color=Green]Asus P4C800-Dlx-E Bios 1021.007 Mem-OCZ400512ELDC-K 1gb Cosair-256 ATI-X800XT- Plextor 712A Imogea 250 zip Disk Sound Max Audio AI Booster :
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02-19-2009, 07:10 AM	#11
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