Best Hard Drive Please Tell

asus · 09-08-2001, 09:05 PM

hi, i am buying a new hard drive to replace my dead samsung as some of you heard.

I currently am running a 15.3 GB 7200 Western Digital, and was wondering if there is a better HDD? i heard from people that WD is bad becuase it dies quickly, in that respect, what IS the best hdd?

Rebellion · 09-08-2001, 09:15 PM

I have to say that IBM´s harddrives are the best.. they are extremely fast and lasts for years...
I have a 22GPX, a 75GPX and a 60GPX all 7200 rpm and they work like charms!

//Rebellion

switch_abx · 09-08-2001, 09:36 PM

I fully agree with Rebellion. I have four PC's with in total 6 IBM IDE harddisks at 7200 rpm (ATA 100). Two PC's are running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (one is running for a year now, the other one for almost 8 months).

Rebellion · 09-08-2001, 09:50 PM

All mine is also running 24/7.. I have a 24h connection and ftpserver and so on and they have never failed me even once.
one have ben on for about 2 years the second for ½ a year and the 3rd about 3 months

asus · 09-08-2001, 11:54 PM

Anyone know a website with good IBM hard disks? i need one about 15-30 GB

asus · 09-09-2001, 12:01 AM

Has Anybody had bad experiences with Western Digital Drives? so far the only bad experience i had was that the hardisk cant take a FSB speed of over 158Mhz.

**Gorganzola** · 09-09-2001, 02:51 AM

Western Digital makes a good hard drive. They are offering some really great rebates on thier drives to drum up business. If you are looking for a decent hard drive that may not be a top performer but will suit you will then a WD or a Seagate drive are a good choice.

IBM and Maxtor or two of the top performers. Fujitsu also makes an excellent drive.

In my opinion the bang for the buck is with a Maxtor drive. When comparing benchmarks between an IBM drive and a Maxtor drive they are very comparable. In some instances the IBM comes out ahead and in others the Maxtor comes out ahead. Right now when looking at IBM and Maxtor drives, Maxtor maybe a little bit faster overall. They are less expensive, hence, the reason I say that is where your bang for the buck is.

I would rate the companies I listed as such:

IBM/Maxtor (Depends on the application.)
Fujitsu/Seagate
Western Digital

As far as I remember Samsung makes a cheap drive and you get what you pay for. None of the other companies I make reference to make a drive that I would not really recommend, right now. That could change at anytime.

Here is a decent and recent review on some hard drives:

http://www4.tomshardware.com/storage...905/index.html

You can also check out http://www.xbitlabs.com, http://www.storagereview.com, http://www.adandtech.com.

kadron · 09-09-2001, 03:09 AM

I have heard nothing but good things regarding IBM drives, unfortunately I have never owned one so I can't speak from experience. I live and die by Seagate. I have 2 Seagate drives and they have been rock solid. One is about 4 years old and the other is just over a year old.

**Gorganzola** · 09-09-2001, 03:21 AM

Seagte is an excellent choice. My ratings are purely based on overall performance. I would have to say that they all have excellent reliablity. There is always the chance for failure, it just depends on when it is your turn.

There is a thread somewhere in the Drives and Controllers section about problems with IBM drives. Have a look at. I would still recommend an IBM drive though.

Mushkin Rules · 09-09-2001, 04:03 AM

I would say Maxtor DiamondMax Plus and Maxtor Fireball AS. Both are 7200 RPM ATA 100 HDD. They can pass FSB 166, as that is what my memory can handle. I think anything above FSB 170 MHz will eventually blow your PCI card (NIC & Soundcard). IBM is also good. Make sure you get the 7200 RPM for HDD, do not settle for les than that RPM.

digi_abx · 09-09-2001, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kadron
I have heard nothing but good things regarding IBM drives, .....

Sorry Kadron but are you just back from a year on Mars or something?

IMHO it's best to stay away from IBM IDE's for awhile:

http://www.theinquirer.net/02090103.htm
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=71

The WDxxxBB (WesternDigital) are excellent. Fast, quiet and cool.
I hear good things about the Seagate Baracuda IV but no personal experience.

Scoundrel · 09-09-2001, 08:32 AM

I use both Maxtor and IBm disks,
My Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 60GB i really nice and a lot quieter than my IBM harddisk and seem to run less hot than my IBM 22 GXP, but newer had any broblem with either of the two brands.....

Just keep away from Quantum they really suck when you OC, Had one of the newer 40Gig fireball LM's 2 months ago, very noisy and i couldnt run it at fsb 152 without loosing data all the time. so returned it for a Maxtor.

Rebellion · 09-09-2001, 09:24 AM

I still think that IBM is the way to go.. Mine is running fine at 166MHz+ FSB and i have never even had any problems above 170MHz.

//Rebellion

Mushkin Rules · 09-09-2001, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scoundrel
I use both Maxtor and IBm disks,
My Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 60GB i really nice and a lot quieter than my IBM harddisk and seem to run less hot than my IBM 22 GXP, but newer had any broblem with either of the two brands.....

Just keep away from Quantum they really suck when you OC, Had one of the newer 40Gig fireball LM's 2 months ago, very noisy and i couldnt run it at fsb 152 without loosing data all the time. so returned it for a Maxtor.

Thanks Digi for the info on IBM. I have never had any personal experiences with IBM drive, but from what I hear & read, it's among the best for overcloker. Sometimes some product lines are not that 100% perfect. I have been using Quantum HDD from LM to AS and have not had any problem. All my Quantum can go up to 166 MHz. Some people are just unlucky that they get quite bad HDD, but I have never heard any issues regarding Maxtor & Quantum HDD. Quantum is merged with Maxtor, currently. I have read that WDD & some IBM HDD have some issues, especially if they are installed together. Here's one that I can think of regarding WDD & IBM:
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT090401024044

While there's no problem running at FSB 170 MHz and above in the shorter period, I would not suggest you run at that high FSB 170 MHz & above for a longer period of usage time. It will ruin your hardwares, especially PCI cards (and some HDD too) in the long run, eventually. Ozzie told me that he had problem when trying to run at FSB above 166 on his Iwill KK266-R. He got his AGP video card burnt at that time, when trying to run at that high FSB, after running it several times. Ofcourse, I would be glad if I can run at FSB 170 & above without destroying any hardwares (depending of hardware quality), but from what I have observed, I am not interested to run at FSB above 166 for the longer period of time, because on average, most hardware are not built to cope with that high FSB. In my opinion, the safest & highest zone is at FSB 166 MHz. Anything above that .... hmmm .... try it yourself (if you dare & if your hardwares can handle it) for a longer period of usage time to find out !!

8baLL · 09-09-2001, 10:42 AM

I've got to 18.2 Seagate Cheetahs. Very fast, not too loud. I don't know how the IDE ones perform, but the SCSIs are excellent.

09-08-2001, 09:05 PM	#1
asus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 255	Best Hard Drive Please Tell hi, i am buying a new hard drive to replace my dead samsung as some of you heard. I currently am running a 15.3 GB 7200 Western Digital, and was wondering if there is a better HDD? i heard from people that WD is bad becuase it dies quickly, in that respect, what IS the best hdd? __________________ EPoX 8KHA+ AXP 1700+ @ 1800+and going higher Crucial PC2100 512Megs GeForce 3 by Gainward
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09-08-2001, 09:15 PM	#2
Rebellion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	I have to say that IBM´s harddrives are the best.. they are extremely fast and lasts for years... I have a 22GPX, a 75GPX and a 60GPX all 7200 rpm and they work like charms! //Rebellion __________________ Celeron 800 @ 1333 MHz @ 2.2v (wiretricked), Watercooled Asus CUSL2 384 Mb Mosel Vitelic PC133 cas2 memory @ 166 MHz cas3 Asus v7700 Geforce2 GTS Deluxe IBM Deskstar 22GPX 18Gb 7200 rpm Pioneer DVD-103 Enermax EG351P-V 330W www.gavle.to/rebellion/puter.html
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09-08-2001, 09:36 PM	#3
switch_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,670	I fully agree with Rebellion. I have four PC's with in total 6 IBM IDE harddisks at 7200 rpm (ATA 100). Two PC's are running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (one is running for a year now, the other one for almost 8 months).
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09-08-2001, 09:50 PM	#4
Rebellion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	All mine is also running 24/7.. I have a 24h connection and ftpserver and so on and they have never failed me even once. one have ben on for about 2 years the second for ½ a year and the 3rd about 3 months __________________ Celeron 800 @ 1333 MHz @ 2.2v (wiretricked), Watercooled Asus CUSL2 384 Mb Mosel Vitelic PC133 cas2 memory @ 166 MHz cas3 Asus v7700 Geforce2 GTS Deluxe IBM Deskstar 22GPX 18Gb 7200 rpm Pioneer DVD-103 Enermax EG351P-V 330W www.gavle.to/rebellion/puter.html
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09-08-2001, 11:54 PM	#5
asus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 255	Anyone know a website with good IBM hard disks? i need one about 15-30 GB __________________ EPoX 8KHA+ AXP 1700+ @ 1800+and going higher Crucial PC2100 512Megs GeForce 3 by Gainward
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09-09-2001, 12:01 AM	#6
asus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 255	Has Anybody had bad experiences with Western Digital Drives? so far the only bad experience i had was that the hardisk cant take a FSB speed of over 158Mhz. __________________ EPoX 8KHA+ AXP 1700+ @ 1800+and going higher Crucial PC2100 512Megs GeForce 3 by Gainward
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09-09-2001, 02:51 AM	#7
Gorganzola ABXZone > Facebook Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hangin' with the fruits Posts: 9,510	Western Digital makes a good hard drive. They are offering some really great rebates on thier drives to drum up business. If you are looking for a decent hard drive that may not be a top performer but will suit you will then a WD or a Seagate drive are a good choice. IBM and Maxtor or two of the top performers. Fujitsu also makes an excellent drive. In my opinion the bang for the buck is with a Maxtor drive. When comparing benchmarks between an IBM drive and a Maxtor drive they are very comparable. In some instances the IBM comes out ahead and in others the Maxtor comes out ahead. Right now when looking at IBM and Maxtor drives, Maxtor maybe a little bit faster overall. They are less expensive, hence, the reason I say that is where your bang for the buck is. I would rate the companies I listed as such: IBM/Maxtor (Depends on the application.) Fujitsu/Seagate Western Digital As far as I remember Samsung makes a cheap drive and you get what you pay for. None of the other companies I make reference to make a drive that I would not really recommend, right now. That could change at anytime. Here is a decent and recent review on some hard drives: http://www4.tomshardware.com/storage...905/index.html You can also check out http://www.xbitlabs.com, http://www.storagereview.com, http://www.adandtech.com. __________________ TTFN. I wasn't asleep at the switch, I was drunk. -- Homer J. Simpson Q. How many dull people does it take to change a lightbulb? A. One. A very useful tool on these forums: You can Meebo in public.
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09-09-2001, 03:09 AM	#8
kadron Gone too Long Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: L.I., New York Posts: 1,455	I have heard nothing but good things regarding IBM drives, unfortunately I have never owned one so I can't speak from experience. I live and die by Seagate. I have 2 Seagate drives and they have been rock solid. One is about 4 years old and the other is just over a year old. __________________ He Who Laughs Last Thinks Slowest If it's not broken, you didn't mess with it enough. If it is broken, chances are the warranty is expired. Specs (way out of date - I have a P4 now) http://www.mindspring.com/~kadron/pc.htm
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09-09-2001, 03:21 AM	#9
Gorganzola ABXZone > Facebook Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hangin' with the fruits Posts: 9,510	Seagte is an excellent choice. My ratings are purely based on overall performance. I would have to say that they all have excellent reliablity. There is always the chance for failure, it just depends on when it is your turn. There is a thread somewhere in the Drives and Controllers section about problems with IBM drives. Have a look at. I would still recommend an IBM drive though. __________________ TTFN. I wasn't asleep at the switch, I was drunk. -- Homer J. Simpson Q. How many dull people does it take to change a lightbulb? A. One. A very useful tool on these forums: You can Meebo in public.
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09-09-2001, 04:03 AM	#10
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	I would say Maxtor DiamondMax Plus and Maxtor Fireball AS. Both are 7200 RPM ATA 100 HDD. They can pass FSB 166, as that is what my memory can handle. I think anything above FSB 170 MHz will eventually blow your PCI card (NIC & Soundcard). IBM is also good. Make sure you get the 7200 RPM for HDD, do not settle for les than that RPM. __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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09-09-2001, 08:32 AM	#12
Scoundrel Ferrari....hah!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,464	I use both Maxtor and IBm disks, My Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 60GB i really nice and a lot quieter than my IBM harddisk and seem to run less hot than my IBM 22 GXP, but newer had any broblem with either of the two brands..... Just keep away from Quantum they really suck when you OC, Had one of the newer 40Gig fireball LM's 2 months ago, very noisy and i couldnt run it at fsb 152 without loosing data all the time. so returned it for a Maxtor. __________________ Processor Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 G0@3.2Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X38T-DQ6 Memory 4GB DDR3 Corsair Twin3X4096-1600C7DHX G Graphics XFX Geforce 9800GX2 1Gig Audio X-FI Extreme Gamer Professional Harddrives 2x 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID 0 Optical Drives 2x LiteOn 20x SATA DVD/RW's Powersupply TT ToughPower 750W Case Coolermaster Stacker 830 Cooling Intel Box Cooler, & 3x Enermax Warp 120mm Fans Input Devices Logitech G5, G15, G25 Monitors 2x Samsung 226BW 22"
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09-09-2001, 09:24 AM	#13
Rebellion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	I still think that IBM is the way to go.. Mine is running fine at 166MHz+ FSB and i have never even had any problems above 170MHz. //Rebellion __________________ Celeron 800 @ 1333 MHz @ 2.2v (wiretricked), Watercooled Asus CUSL2 384 Mb Mosel Vitelic PC133 cas2 memory @ 166 MHz cas3 Asus v7700 Geforce2 GTS Deluxe IBM Deskstar 22GPX 18Gb 7200 rpm Pioneer DVD-103 Enermax EG351P-V 330W www.gavle.to/rebellion/puter.html
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09-09-2001, 10:42 AM	#15
8baLL Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 41	Seagate Cheetah......... I've got to 18.2 Seagate Cheetahs. Very fast, not too loud. I don't know how the IDE ones perform, but the SCSIs are excellent. __________________ OS: Windows XP Home Mainboard: ASUS P4S533 w/1009 BIOS CPU: Pentium 4 1.6A Memory: 768MB Mushkin HiPerf PC2100 (3 256MB chips) Storage: 2 Western Digital 7200 60GB; Lite On 40x12x48 Burner; Panasonic 1.44MB floppy Controller Card: Promise Fasttrak TX2 Raid controller Video: MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB w/ Detonator XP v30.82 Drivers Sound: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz w/ Cambridge Soundworks DTT2200 5.1 Surround Speakers Input: Microsoft Internet Pro Keyboard & Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer Optical w/ Ratpadz Output: Hitachi CM715 Superscan 19" .22dpi Networking: Linksys Etherfast 10/100 NIC & Linksys Etherfast 4 Port Router Case: Lian Li PC60USB (4 front USB ports) Aluminum Mid Tower ATX Cooling: 2 Removable Hard Drive Coolers; 2 3DCool 80mm High Output intake; 1 3DCool 80mm High Output exaust; Swiftech MCX4000 CPU HSF w/ AS3 Thermal Compound Power Supply: Enermax EG465P 431w (80mm intake, and 92mm exhaust) Miscellanous: Logitech Pro 3000 USB Internet Camera; Epson Stylus Photo 820 Printer
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