my new G.Skill Falcon SSD - Page 4

polonyc2 · 08-16-2009, 04:06 PM

finally was able to run the HD Tune 'Write' benchmarks as they are not able to run on the same drive you have the OS installed on...pretty outstanding results especially in comparison to this review and his analysis of what the benchmark numbers represent...

G.Skill Falcon 128GB

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Sir Skully · 08-16-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

thanks for the info...I can switchover to AHCI doing a fresh install since I'm not using the SSD drive as my primary OS at the moment and the only things I've installed on my SSD are device drivers and benchmark programs...but don't you have to be in IDE mode when doing firmware upgrades?...I thought I read someplace that doing a FW upgrade while in AHCI won't work

I ran the G.Skill Wiper program a few minutes ago...works fine, no issues...I'm going to be doing another erase of my SSD as I want to benchmark it with no OS installed as I heard it can give better results without the OS overhead

I tried using HDDErase to wipe the drive back to like new condition but it was not compatible with my motherboard and I could not launch the program...I tried Diskpart and that works fine

HDerase run as administrator.....firmware upgrades need to be in IDE mode.

polonyc2 · 08-17-2009, 11:40 AM

G.Skill finally made a comment today regarding the new firmware (1711)...

"as we tested, there is still some issue with the unreleased firmware
so, we'd prefer to anounce a better and more stable version of firmware to improve our SSD products

Thanks"

Sir Skully · 08-17-2009, 11:52 AM

If I had to guess I'd say G.Skill FW is the same as OCZ.
But I would NOT FLASH OCZ FW to G. Skill, as I could be wrong!!!!
OCZ is beta and their having problems keeping TRIM and GC separate.
As for me the beta 141b is fine, also we were given away to turn off and on TRIM in regedit....
Everything is to be fixed in the final release of FW.

polonyc2 · 08-17-2009, 12:02 PM

I don't mind waiting for the new firmware from G.Skill...I'd rather have them put out a nice stable FW with no major bugs rather then rush out a buggy version just to compete with OCZ or SuperTalent...plus performance using the 1571 firmware has been great

and no I won't be flashing my Falcon SSD with OCZ firmware

Sir Skully · 08-17-2009, 12:40 PM

I hear ya and I think I'd do likewise if I had a G.Skill SSD.
Your drive is plenty fast as is.....

polonyc2 · 08-24-2009, 04:56 PM

nice little article concerning TRIM support in the latest Indilinx firmware and how it affects performance...

AnandTech: Lab Update: The Next SSD Article, Matte vs. Glossy and Touch Screens

Sir Skully · 08-24-2009, 05:38 PM

Thanks for the read...
I'll be glad when OCZ final FW with TRIM is out...

polonyc2 · 08-31-2009, 08:36 PM

looks like both OCZ and Supertalent removed the new (beta) firmware 1711 from their sites because there were some problems with data corruption

looks like G.Skill did the right thing by waiting until the bugs were worked out before releasing the firmware

Sir Skully · 08-31-2009, 09:26 PM

Retract my sentence....
OCZ did give out a way to turn off and on TRIM.
I have it off, and no data corruption in newest beta FW 142B.

Sir Skully · 08-31-2009, 09:41 PM

I Don't mind being a beta tester for OCZ.
We know when testing this new BETA FW to back up your data.
They do need testers, to work out a really good FW.
Its really like being a part of SSD history.
My W-7 is all for testing and oc'ing.
I keep my critical data on an external HD...

polonyc2 · 09-02-2009, 10:41 AM

hmmm...what's this?...

Amazon.com: OCZ Technology OCZSSDPCIE-1ZDRV1T 1TB Z-Drive PCI-Express SSD: Electronics

Amazon.com: OCZ TECHNOLOGY OCZSSDPCIE-1ZDRV250G Z-Drive PCI-Express SSD: Electronics

Griff · 09-02-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

looks like both OCZ and Supertalent removed the new (beta) firmware 1711 from their sites because there were some problems with data corruption

looks like G.Skill did the right thing by waiting until the bugs were worked out before releasing the firmware

This is the answear I got from G.Skill reguarding the new Firmware update and compatibility with Raid0.

Dear Customer

The wiper program can be used in any configuration, but at the same time we are working on a new firmware that will be much better so once that is released it should be much improved from what it is now.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

polonyc2 · 09-02-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

This is the answear I got from G.Skill reguarding the new Firmware update and compatibility with Raid0.

Dear Customer

The wiper program can be used in any configuration, but at the same time we are working on a new firmware that will be much better so once that is released it should be much improved from what it is now.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

hopefully this means adding a Garbage Collection feature as well as RAID compatibility...I don't mind waiting a few extra weeks as long as we get a polished final product...plus the 1571 firmware works fine for now...seems like the 'other' manufacturers are always rushing out new firmware which might not be tested as thoroughly as it should be

I'm also hearing that the new firmware will not be using the jumper flash method and might not destroy all data on the drive when flashing

EDIT: that answer they gave you sounds as though Wiper can currently be used even on RAID setups

Griff · 09-02-2009, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

hopefully this means adding a Garbage Collection feature as well as RAID compatibility...I don't mind waiting a few extra weeks as long as we get a polished final product...plus the 1571 firmware works fine for now...seems like the 'other' manufacturers are always rushing out new firmware which might not be tested as thoroughly as it should be

I'm also hearing that the new firmware will not be using the jumper flash method and might not destroy all data on the drive when flashing

EDIT: that answer they gave you sounds as though Wiper can currently be used even on RAID setups

That is what I was thinking too. Will try when I have a few minutes tomorrow.

08-17-2009, 11:40 AM	#48
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08-17-2009, 11:52 AM	#49
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,862	Re: my new G.Skill Falcon SSD If I had to guess I'd say G.Skill FW is the same as OCZ. But I would NOT FLASH OCZ FW to G. Skill, as I could be wrong!!!! OCZ is beta and their having problems keeping TRIM and GC separate. As for me the beta 141b is fine, also we were given away to turn off and on TRIM in regedit.... Everything is to be fixed in the final release of FW. __________________ .....................................................................................................................
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08-17-2009, 12:02 PM	#50
polonyc2 Banned? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 8,196	I don't mind waiting for the new firmware from G.Skill...I'd rather have them put out a nice stable FW with no major bugs rather then rush out a buggy version just to compete with OCZ or SuperTalent...plus performance using the 1571 firmware has been great and no I won't be flashing my Falcon SSD with OCZ firmware __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB Intel E8400 * Noctua NH-U12P G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX850W AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP2 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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08-17-2009, 12:40 PM	#51
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,862	Re: my new G.Skill Falcon SSD I hear ya and I think I'd do likewise if I had a G.Skill SSD. Your drive is plenty fast as is..... __________________ .....................................................................................................................
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08-24-2009, 04:56 PM	#52
polonyc2 Banned? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 8,196	nice little article concerning TRIM support in the latest Indilinx firmware and how it affects performance... AnandTech: Lab Update: The Next SSD Article, Matte vs. Glossy and Touch Screens __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB Intel E8400 * Noctua NH-U12P G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX850W AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP2 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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08-24-2009, 05:38 PM	#53
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,862	Re: my new G.Skill Falcon SSD Thanks for the read... I'll be glad when OCZ final FW with TRIM is out... __________________ .....................................................................................................................
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08-31-2009, 08:36 PM	#54
polonyc2 Banned? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 8,196	looks like both OCZ and Supertalent removed the new (beta) firmware 1711 from their sites because there were some problems with data corruption looks like G.Skill did the right thing by waiting until the bugs were worked out before releasing the firmware __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB Intel E8400 * Noctua NH-U12P G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX850W AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP2 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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08-31-2009, 09:26 PM	#55
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,862	Re: my new G.Skill Falcon SSD Retract my sentence.... OCZ did give out a way to turn off and on TRIM. I have it off, and no data corruption in newest beta FW 142B. __________________ ..................................................................................................................... Last edited by Sir Skully; 08-31-2009 at 09:34 PM..
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08-31-2009, 09:41 PM	#56
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 28,862	Re: my new G.Skill Falcon SSD I Don't mind being a beta tester for OCZ. We know when testing this new BETA FW to back up your data. They do need testers, to work out a really good FW. Its really like being a part of SSD history. My W-7 is all for testing and oc'ing. I keep my critical data on an external HD... __________________ .....................................................................................................................
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09-02-2009, 10:41 AM	#57
polonyc2 Banned? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 8,196	hmmm...what's this?... Amazon.com: OCZ Technology OCZSSDPCIE-1ZDRV1T 1TB Z-Drive PCI-Express SSD: Electronics Amazon.com: OCZ TECHNOLOGY OCZSSDPCIE-1ZDRV250G Z-Drive PCI-Express SSD: Electronics __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB Intel E8400 * Noctua NH-U12P G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX850W AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP2 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black) Last edited by polonyc2; 09-02-2009 at 10:59 AM..
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