The Truth about OCZ's PC3700 Gold DDR (Dual Channel)

Devil24 · 07-10-2003, 02:29 PM

Read the following article... it is a pretty good one.

LostCircuits' review of OCZ's PC3700 256MB EL DDR Gold Dual CH RAM

OCZ uses Samsung chips (Part # K4H280838E-TCB3)

in these modules... and NOT ones made by them, as we've read/been told many, many times before

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It is amazing what some sandpaper and a laser marker can do

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- D24

kabouki · 07-10-2003, 02:52 PM

I don't know what to think ....

Ice_abx · 07-10-2003, 02:56 PM

Let's see what oczguy has to say about this...

Ec]-[oMaN · 07-10-2003, 02:57 PM

he has already said they used these chips

Ice_abx · 07-10-2003, 03:01 PM

Hmm, so why did they advertise that they manufacture their own memory?

Ec]-[oMaN · 07-10-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by iCe4LiFE
Hmm, so why did they advertise that they manufacture their own memory?

they might on their lower speed chips,but i think the oczguy stated otherwise about these pc 3700 in thread where tangiro was compairing all the different chip manufactures

jinu117 · 07-10-2003, 03:08 PM

The real truth to be reckoned on this is that OCZ has reached much higher FSB than their rated with minimal voltage compared to any other memory out there with good timing. After trying 3 different sets of memory so far, I would still pay the premium over having to go hit and miss run with memory.

Ec]-[oMaN · 07-10-2003, 03:13 PM

here first page,they used samsung with their prem ram and most likely profected it on the gold,
Identify the OEM chips manufacturer

eva2000 · 07-10-2003, 03:18 PM

maybe it was another memory manufacturer, but i recall something about the memory being transitional .. early sticks were with different chips than the latter ?

oczguy · 07-10-2003, 03:22 PM

These are modified samsung unit , we basicaly blasted abouy 7 mil off the top of some samsung ICs using a CO2 Laser to improve the heat disapation ( something along the lines of how EL DDR ICS are produced ), these are used primarily in the premier series Pc-3700 right now , but were used in some gold series

oczguy · 07-10-2003, 03:27 PM

Internal Document I might as well make public for anyone who cares

http://www.ocztechnology.com/display...SOP%20packages

Prometheus_abx · 07-10-2003, 03:34 PM

Since MS at Lost Circuits reportedly works for Mushkin, it certainly appears he went out to prove OCZ mem was bad. But in fact the review is Grudgingly FAVORABLE. He says even though the chips are sanded and remarked after selection, the GOLD modules perform AS ADVERTISED and much better than he ever expected.

Since MS bought these on the open market, he has probably given the BEST endorsement yet of OCZ's current products. I'm not sure that was his intention, but it is what happened. Please read the ENTIRE review.

oczguy · 07-10-2003, 03:34 PM

Oh BTW

Does everyone here know MS from lost circuits is a mushkin employee ?

It really makes me sick that any process we use , including modifying ICs for improved thermal performance can get turned into some ridiculus BS reason for people to run around forums bashing OCZ

Facts are that OCZ gold out performs anyone elses product.
and other manufacturers are getting jealous.

We have a process that works to increase performance and others dont.

BTW: I posted 2 weeks ago that we were doing this in xtreme forums , I know you all dont post there , but I am sure people have seen the earlier post

In fact I was talking to BIGTOE about it earlier today

If others want to compete with OCZ they should focus on improving there customer service , instead of trying to turn everything into something horrible .

eva2000 · 07-10-2003, 03:39 PM

guess Mark's the guy to thank for the gold series then

Quote:

* - note from mark , looks like some happy campers will be hitting DDR 533 plus with there premier series

pc3700 premier is looking nice

oczguy · 07-10-2003, 03:42 PM

LOL

Feel free to tell the world guys . Please post this everywhere you can

07-10-2003, 02:29 PM	#1
Devil24 Mad OC'er Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 36	The Truth about OCZ's PC3700 Gold DDR (Dual Channel) Read the following article... it is a pretty good one. LostCircuits' review of OCZ's PC3700 256MB EL DDR Gold Dual CH RAM OCZ uses Samsung chips (Part # K4H280838E-TCB3) in these modules... and NOT ones made by them, as we've read/been told many, many times before . It is amazing what some sandpaper and a laser marker can do . - D24
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07-10-2003, 02:52 PM	#2
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07-10-2003, 03:22 PM	#10
oczguy Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 217	These are modified samsung unit , we basicaly blasted abouy 7 mil off the top of some samsung ICs using a CO2 Laser to improve the heat disapation ( something along the lines of how EL DDR ICS are produced ), these are used primarily in the premier series Pc-3700 right now , but were used in some gold series __________________ Proud OCZ employee, If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to drop me a email at oczguy@ocztechnology.com
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07-10-2003, 03:34 PM	#12
Prometheus_abx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,917	Since MS at Lost Circuits reportedly works for Mushkin, it certainly appears he went out to prove OCZ mem was bad. But in fact the review is Grudgingly FAVORABLE. He says even though the chips are sanded and remarked after selection, the GOLD modules perform AS ADVERTISED and much better than he ever expected. Since MS bought these on the open market, he has probably given the BEST endorsement yet of OCZ's current products. I'm not sure that was his intention, but it is what happened. Please read the ENTIRE review. Last edited by Prometheus_abx; 07-10-2003 at 03:44 PM..
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07-10-2003, 03:42 PM	#15
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